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Siri Competitor Evi Arrives, But Already Overloaded

mikejuk writes "Evi, a new rival to Siri, Apple's voice-driven personal assistant, has made its debut on both the iPhone and Android. And people are so keen to that Evi's servers are overloaded — so be prepared for a wait for answers." The app costs 99 cents for iOS users, but it's free on Android.

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  1. Old news by SoonerSkeene · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not only has this been out for approaching a week, but it's also far from a competitor. It uses the standard voice services to transcribe what you say, then 'helpfully' google it for you or open a webpage. It most certainly can't do what Siri does, even when it is (rarely) working. You can ask Siri where to get a sandwich. Asking Evi just results in the homepage for UrbanSpoon.com launching. Not even a search for what you want. When's that Majel thing coming?

    1. Re:Old news by narcc · · Score: 5, Informative

      I want to be able to add something to my calendar, or ask where the closet X is.

      What's so strange is that the things people bring up when they talk about Siri are the same things that other apps have been able to do for ages.

      When Siri came out, there was a user here bragging that he could tell Siri that he was "hungry for Mexican food" and it would bring up a list of Mexican restaurants in his area. Well, I press the convenience key on my Blackberry and, surprise surprise, saying "I'm hungry for Mexican food" was all it took for Vlingo to pull up a list of Mexican restaraunts near me (grabbing my current location with the GPS) complete with a button to call them and a button to get directions.

      I'm still not sure what Siri does that's particularly special, though I do hear a lot about the things that Siri won't do that other similar apps can do.

    2. Re:Old news by SoonerSkeene · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's great thing that I like about Vlingo as well. The only reason I have my default action still on the Google Search voice thing is that it can do a select few things that Vlingo can't, which I use more often. Vlingo is far more full featured than this Evi thing.

      I agree about a lot of "been done before" stuff. Heck, my old Windows Mobile 5.x phone going on 8 years ago was able to use voice to "Play X artist" or "What's my next appointment" (still can't do that on Android),... and WinMo didn't even require a server connection to understand my request.

  2. Siri on other iDevices by sonicmerlin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is the real reason Siri's available only for 4S users. Apple added 37 million new iPhone customers last quarter, with the vast majority of those buying 4S's. It's actually pretty amazing they've been able to keep up with the computational and server requirements of all those Siri users with hardly any major hiccups. I've heard of maybe 2 significant Siri outages, and those lasted for very short periods of time. People wanting Apple to extend Siri to all 200 million+ iOS users are being unrealistic. There's no way to handle that kind of load all at once.

    1. Re:Siri on other iDevices by peragrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How many servers? How much bandwidth?

      Not even WOW was originally released every where at the same time to adjust to load.

      The fact is until you get hard numbers you can't take it for granted exactly how much you need.

      Apple added 37 million 4S users in the last quarter. did you know in October how many iphones they would sell?

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    2. Re:Siri on other iDevices by afabbro · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You have a long career ahead of you as a tech sector executive.

      (shrug) Whatever - it really is the answer. One Siri-enabled device takes X CPU power, X bandwidth, etc. There is some internal database scaling, but I doubt the Siri database is huge. Most likely, they have a bajillion x86-class boxes each with a full copy of the database. Every X many Siri devices requires Y many servers.

      Somewhere, there's a monitor that reports overall usage. As they get towards the redline, they add more. This kind of scaling is very easy. If they had to present a single consistent copy of data (e.g., credit card processing or something), it would be a lot more difficult.

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  3. Re:SpeakToIt Assistant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, scary, but isn't that expected? Isn't one of the features of Siri calling and texting people for you?

  4. Re:Not a real competitor to Siri by Nerdfest · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why do you consider that a good thing? Are you a big Internet Explorer fan? I'd much rather have functionality independently selectable so that I can choose which I want, and upgrade it (or not) as I choose.

  5. Just tried it by Gumbercules!! · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just grabbed it from Android market. Tried 3 searches:
    1. "Petrol near me" - success - found a petrol station near by, correctly.
    2. "Weather today" - failure - said weather coming soon, in the meantime, try accuWeather.
    3. "Who is the Prime Minister of Australia" - success - Julia Gillard.


    The speech to text was flawless, even on the 3rd one.

    Still a gimmick I can't see any real use for. I can Google Voice search on my phone already and I never use it. Maybe there's something else you can do with these things I haven't thought of but for me it seems like Siri it pointless and Evi more so.

  6. Re:SpeakToIt Assistant by jamesh · · Score: 5, Informative

    DIRECTLY CALL PHONE NUMBERS

    1. Purchase pay-to-call and pay-to-sms services
    2. Stand on street corner with megaphone yelling out instructions for phones to dial and message my numbers
    3. Profit!

    In fact you could just buy ads during popular TV shows that clearly speak the same instructions...

  7. Re:Not a real competitor to Siri by hawguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Putting all of Siri's capabilities that Evi can't match aside, we still got something that isn't built into the OS like Siri is. I don't see a reason to use this versus Siri unless you are on Android or an older iPhone.

    Is that really a factor in evaluating the app? If this app works better than Siri, will you refuse to run it because it's not built-in to the OS? Obviously if it's not better than Siri then there's no reason to switch from Siri.

  8. In this case, Size Does Matter by guttentag · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So the service is collapsing under the weight of the attention? At the end of the day, a serious Siri competitor can only come from a huge, very well-financed company because Apple sunk a ridiculous amount of money into a data center to support Siri. And they still have tens of billions of dollars in cash lying around. True Knowledge, the company that introduced Evi, has had about $5.2 million in announced financing over the last four years. This is like calling that guy selling strawberries on the street corner "Safeway's competition." He may have good strawberries, but he's not going to make a dent in Safeway's business. He simply couldn't handle that kind of volume. I know we've seen plenty of David and Goliath technology matchups that have been upended, but this technology is only made possible and sustainable by a huge investment. By the time that ceases to be true (when you can run Siri on your phone without reliance on the cloud) Apple will be even further ahead of the field.

    1. Re:In this case, Size Does Matter by SoonerSkeene · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My old Windows Mobile 5.x phone going on 8 or 9 years ago was able to use voice to "Play X artist" or "What's my next appointment" (still can't do that on Android),... and WinMo didn't even require a server connection to translate my voice into text. It could even respond to you. Say "Play music", it would ask "what do you want to play? By album, artist, genre, or shuffle?" You could even continue the conversation, just like Siri, by saying "what artists are available?" or something similar.

      The only time a connection of any kind was required was if my request spawned a web search or geolocation process, which would be a normal webpage or map loading. I don't see why Apple needs "a huge data center" to handle these requests.

  9. Re:SpeakToIt Assistant by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes, and though I love Siri, it would be easy to be the victim of a prank. One of my coworkers used Siri to text my boss the word 'buttface', even though the phone was locked. I can set it to require unlock, and I may have to, but it does affect the usefulness of Siri.

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  10. Re:SpeakToIt Assistant by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Note: This application will make phone calls and send SMS messages to premium phone numbers. This will cause your phone bill to skyrocket and will give us millions of dollars of extra revenue."

    I believe that app is called "teenager"...

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  11. Re:SpeakToIt Assistant by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Funny

    If they wanted to rack up charges on your phone bill by making unauthorized calls and text's, it's not like they'd put that in the terms of use.

    That app is so invasive that it even managed to usurp your Slashdot account while you were typing and slip a completely superfluous, meaningless apostrophe into your use of the word "texts." These new apps are really insidious.

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  12. Apple's success by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's the key to Apple's success right there. It's all in the marketing. Take a feature that most people don't know they had (did google ever advertise voice services?) and make it the staple feature of the OS release. It for some reason makes the world salivate in awe.

    A few notables are the iCloud, and Facetime. The latter really had me scratching my head given that my not-smart phone was capable of doing that 10 years ago and Apple's Facetime wasn't even compatible with standard video calling methods. But none the less for some completely unknown reason people seem to go mental over these features.

  13. Re:SpeakToIt Assistant by LordSnooty · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Hold your phone to the screen and play the Youtube video to install our great new anti-virus app..."

  14. Re:Not a real competitor to Siri by Frangible · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... and by "minor app developer" you mean a Stanford Research Institute spinoff, where it was created from over 10 years of AI research by DARPA on the CALO/PAL projects, which were in fact the largest AI projects in history?

    You might remember DARPA from some of their other projects. Like ARPANET amongst others.

    If you expect to equal 10 years of DARPA AI research and development in a 3-week coding project, well good luck with that.