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Book Review: The Windup Girl

New submitter Hector's House writes "'Nothing is certain. Nothing is secure,' reflects one of the characters in Paolo Bacigalupi's novel The Windup Girl. In 23rd century Bangkok, life for many hangs by a thread. Oil has run out; rising seas threatens to engulf the city; genetically engineered diseases hover on Thailand's borders; and the threat of violence smolders as government ministries vie for power. Environmental destruction, climate change and novel plagues have wiped out many of the crop species that humanity depends on: the profits to be made from creating — or stealing — new species are potentially enormous. After a century of collapse and contraction, Western business sees hope for a new wave of globalization; Thailand's fiercely guarded seed banks may provide just the springboard needed." Keep reading for the rest of Aidan's review. The Windup Girl author Paolo Bacigalupi pages 376 publisher Night Shade Books rating 8 reviewer Aidan McKeown ISBN 978-0356500539 summary Dystopian action thriller set in 23rd century Bangkok In a street market, Anderson Lake—a prospector for a US agribusiness giant—comes across an entirely new fruit. Drawn by the promise that it might lead him to the Thai kingdom's seed banks, he follows a trail that leads him to the backstreet club run by dissipated expat Raleigh. Here he encounters Emiko, the "windup girl" of the title. In the club's signature live sex show, she is subjected to—quite graphically described—abuse on stage. Genetically engineered in Japan as a "New Person", to be companion, secretary and translator to wealthy patrons, Emiko—a sort of transgenic geisha—has been abandoned in Bangkok by her former patron. Having been trained since infancy to be compliant, and carrying canine DNA that makes life outside of a strict hierarchy unthinkable, Emiko is trapped both by her own nature and by her characteristic tick-tock stuttery movements, hardcoded into her to make her manufactured origins immediately apparent. Genetically "unclean", Emiko daily faces the threat of extermination by the environment police: she takes to the streets only at night, when she can more easily "pass". Lake is fascinated by the exotic Emiko; she in turn is drawn to him, not least as an escape from slavery—even possibly to the fabled north, where New People reputedly live in freedom. Their relationship is an ambiguous one. Lake is not inherently a tender character (he considers the murder of business associates who threaten his plans). Moreover, his status as an unwelcome corporate outsider already puts him at risk; a transgressive liaison with a "windup" endangers him further. Emiko herself (like the Thai authorities) doesn't feel that she is genuinely human. However, she is fully capable of experiencing pain and loss and—with devastating results—rage.

Bacigalupi's novel is not new, nor is it obscure: published in 2009, it went on to win the highly esteemed Nebula and Hugo awards for science-fiction writing in 2009 and 2010. However, it deserves a place on the pages of slashdot, both for its vision of the future, and how naturally that is embedded in a well-crafted, intelligent action thriller. The book takes a qualified view of our future technological development. Fossil fuel depletion has resulted in a retraction of progress. Now, human and animal labour wind massive crank shafts—a dramatic ramping up of the technology used in hand-cranked radios and windup lanterns. Everything is recycled: even sewage produces methane to light the city's gas lamps. Where technology has leaped forward is in genetic engineering. This has yielded startling benefits: megodonts, hybrid beasts of burden, the result of the splicing of the DNA of elephants with that their massive prehistoric ancestors. It has also imposed dire costs: laboratory-manufactured plagues have swept the planet, Thailand surviving only because of the extreme zealousness of its environmental police.

The setting of an Asian culture, the dystopian image of people crammed into a crumbling city, and the relationship between a cynical, jaded man and vulnerable, artificial woman inevitably recall Bladerunner; however, even if that story provided some inspiration, The Windup Girl doesn't feel derivative: Emiko is the leading protagonist, not a supporting character. And the book takes off from that point of comparison: it's not stuck there. Weaving in with the main plot are a number of sub narratives, the book drawing much of its momentum from this crisscrossing. Hock Seng, Lake's elderly Malaysian Chinese assistant, a refugee from bloody ethnic cleansing, plots his escape from the chaos he feels must ultimately engulf Bangkok. Fiery, ebullient environment police captain Jaidee Rojjanasukchai and his austere female lieutenant Kanya Chirathivat pursue genetic transgressions in an attempt to preserve what is left of Thailand's ravaged ecosystem. Meanwhile their Environment Ministry vies with the Ministry of Trade, which seeks to open up Thailand to resurgent Western business. Plot and counter plot wind the characters together into a climactic conflict sensed only dimly at the start of the book.

It is perhaps here where the book, not falls down, but stumbles. The complexity of the plot towards the end of the book becomes dense and – for me, on first reading – slowed the book's momentum. This complexity might, however, also be a strength. For the purposes of the review I came back to the book, which I had read some eight or nine months previously; it bears rereading, and the largely tight structure is rewarding, as is the plot development. The sense of place is very strong—the press of street markets, the stench and press of humanity in the crumbling high-rise apartment buildings, the tropical setting ("[the] night was black and sticky, a jungle filled with the squawks of night birds and the pulse and whir of insect life"), as is the sense of—literally—the daily grind, as men and animals wind the cranks that keep the city powered. And many of the ideas have the power to jolt: the "cheshires", cats with chameleon DNA that recall Lewis Carroll's fictional creation by changing color to melt into their surroundings, the better to exterminate already-threatened bird populations; the Dung Lord, a mafia don who controls the trade in human waste, a vital part of the city's economy. While not all the characters remain with you afterwards, fittingly, Emiko, the lonely and conflicted protagonist does. Interestingly, hers is also the character for whom the greatest leap of imagination is required—the genetically altered outsider, who makes a journey from abject slavery to a realization of her potential.

Science fiction often suffers because while much attention may have been paid to the technological aspects, the author fails to capture the complexities of the new society or convincingly grasp the characters. Bacigalupi – largely – succeeds because he recognizes that human nature doesn't change over time: elites are only too willing to exercise control with force; the outsiders and those are who different are always vulnerable; human culture, in all its strangeness and mundanity, continues. A key strength of the book is that the subjective portrayal of the characters' inner lives and thoughts means that we feel them to be inhabiting their own present, exactly as we are. They look back of course, as do we. In their case, wonderingly to a time known as "The Expansion", when Thailand was allegedly the "Land of smiles", quite unlike the misery that has become the lot of its average citizen.

If you'd like to sample Bacigalupi's writing, some of his short stories are available on his Pump Six website.

Aidan McKeown is an editor and writer living in the Netherlands. He can be contacted at aidanmckeown@gmail.com.

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  1. thanks.. dont have to get it now by Wingfat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    such an indepth review i feel like there is no need to get it now.

    1. Re:thanks.. dont have to get it now by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Every generation of scholars from the ancient Greeks to the present day has complained about people like you: children of privilege and promise whose intellectual laziness signals their parents' failure and their culture's fall. Happily, those old geezers have all been full of shit... at least up until the last 10-15 years or so. Now, their lamentations ring loudly in our ears. They sound less like the grousing of irrelevant reactionaries, and more like warnings of an undeniable and very inconvenient truth.

      So have another Adderall and hit the showers; your work here is done.

    2. Re:thanks.. dont have to get it now by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      such an indepth review i feel like there is no need to get it now.

      Having read both the novel and the review, I can say for sure that there is still every need to get the book and read it.

      The review is thorough, but it doesn't scratch the surface of what makes the novel so compelling, any more than looking at the Cliff's Notes to Midsummer Night's Dream obviates the need to read the great play.

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    3. Re:thanks.. dont have to get it now by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The only kind of person who would think that review was anything even approaching a cliff's notes version of the book are people who haven't read the book. For example saying that Hock Seng is Anderson Lake's "assistant" glosses over at least a quarter of the narrative.

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    4. Re:thanks.. dont have to get it now by samwichse · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I just finished reading this book 3 days ago, and it was absolutely a page turner!

      My work is in agricultural (food crops) research, and so many people do GMO research there... heck, people in my group are with the Plant Exchange Office that goes to other countries looking for new genetic diversity to add to the US breeding stock.

      It was great to find a _____ punk genre that exactly fit what I do!

      From beginning to end, there is no black/white, good/bad dichotomy evident, every character has their selfish wants (some more than others) and their demons. The pace of the novel was fantastic, and I won't give anything away, but this book will probably be getting a sequel. Although some of the story arc seems a bit pointless the way it fizzles out and is wrapped up at the end.

      Seriously the most original scifi I've read in a LONG time.... is it speculative fiction/biopunk? Where are the nightshades? Awesome!

      Sam

    5. Re:thanks.. dont have to get it now by Builder · · Score: 2

      But if you read a few more books that you didn't need to, you might not say things like "give you the just of it"...

    6. Re:thanks.. dont have to get it now by PCM2 · · Score: 2

      Will you guys keep it the fuck down out there?

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  2. Ok, I'l believe this review... by MikeTheGreat · · Score: 2

    ...since it's 8/10, rather than the Packt-standard 9/10 :)

  3. Good book, but has some holes by Monty845 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There were a lot of interesting ideas discussed in the book, but it fails to really explain why things like solar power were not used... at all... not to mention any other form of green energy that is available even today. It seemed a pretty big hole to me.

    1. Re:Good book, but has some holes by needs2bfree · · Score: 3, Interesting

      How does it compare to Oryx and Crake? It sounds really similar.

    2. Re:Good book, but has some holes by Fubari · · Score: 2

      Great book; ntl;eri (not too long; enjoyed reading it).
      r.e. solar: I got the impression they 1) didn't have the infrastructure to make new solar or electric things, and 2) famine was the new normal, actually eating was a challenge. Very very interesting social modeling; the book author put a Lot of thought into crafting this world.
      As for a the "Reviews of two+ year old books suxorz" *shrug* 1) it is still a good book today, and 2) some geeks might enjoy reading it. (unless this is a dup and Windup Girl has already been reviewed on /. but that is a dup issue, not a "two years too late" issue).
      p.s. Thanks you to Samzenpus for taking the time to write a nice, well thought out review.

    3. Re:Good book, but has some holes by Monty845 · · Score: 2

      See, thats where it doesn't make sense. They have the infrastructure to make the kinetic energy storage devices and to continue bio engineering, so they should be able to produce solar/wind/hydro/tide power, and did use a limited amount of fossil fuel generated electricity. Even if it wasn't economically viable for the masses, certainly the rich and or gov't would have been able to afford some as a prestige item or for critical purposes. Both solar and wind have major drawbacks, but in a time of such energy scarcity, the draw backs could be lived with.

    4. Re:Good book, but has some holes by Daetrin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      First, in response to your post, they're really not at all similar. Oryx and Crake is a _real_ apocalyptic/post-apocalyptic novel. At the end almost everyone is dead and there's not much hope for the survivors. (The second part of that could certainly be debated, but doing so would definitely involve somewhat spoilery stuff.)

      In Windup Girl the world has gone through a cataclysm, and you could call the "present" world a post-apocalyptic one if you really wanted, but it's not a nearly dead world. At the point we join the story there are a number of civilizations in the world. They're all worried about further calamities, but most of them are doing pretty well. They're growing and expanding, world trade is starting to come back (despite somewhat justified opposition) a lot of progress is being made in genetics and the harvesting of kinetic energy, and they're able to produce high tech items like computers in at least limited quantities.

      Which is why the grand-parent comment is so telling. They can make computers, so why can't they make solar panels? And why is there no nuclear power? And dear gods why no hydro power? They've definitely got the tech to build turbines and water wheels are about the oldest tech out there, and windmills ought to be just about as easy to build.

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    5. Re:Good book, but has some holes by Nidi62 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      2) famine was the new normal, actually eating was a challenge.

      If there was mass famine, wouldn't human and animal labor be the last source of energy you would want to use? That would just create an even greater need for food.

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    6. Re:Good book, but has some holes by ralphdaugherty · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Thanks for the review. I like this Bladerunner kind of stuff. I'll be ordering it, and also checking out other similar books mentioned here.

      IMO the no solar energy and reliance on animal powered cranks (and especially in a dense urban environment) is totally unrealistic but dramatic license.

      The 23rd century is way too optimistic. The ocean will have flooded Thailand well before that and there will be massive death from starvation and a runaway bioengineered disaster even before that. Human nature being what it is, it's guaranteed we will do nothing to prevent it.

    7. Re:Good book, but has some holes by HeckRuler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well a big plot element is that the powers that be, the calorie-men, have an established business, and they hold the world by the throat. Imagine if you will that the oil tycoons were in charge of not only transportation, but food. In a time of famine. It's also a time of plagues, which they also have a hand in.
      I'm not sure if it's specifically spelled out, but it's implied that the calorie-men were responsible for releasing plagues that decimated crops of competitors.

      But anyway, if you have an immensely powerful establishment, and you try to introduce alternatives, it turns out that they don't look kindly on that sort of thing.

      The complete lack of hydro-power is kinda damning though. Solar and wind too, but they lack the pun.

    8. Re:Good book, but has some holes by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      Nope. It depends on what the animals eat. Dumb vegetarians, for instance, are always complaining about the use of animals as food, saying that we could just use all that pasture land as farmland instead and grow crops for people to eat directly. What they totally miss is that people can't eat grass. Cows, however, can eat grass (as can goats, and various other animals), and turn completely useless scrubland into a food source for humans. And no, you can't necessarily turn that land into farmland because growing crops requires a lot of water, whereas wild grasses don't; freshwater is in limited supply in many places. Goats can be even better than cows in many places because they can live on extremely rugged terrain that cows can't handle, and human wheeled machines can't operate on.

      So if the beasts of burden you use normally eat grass and other inedible stuff that grows in the wild without using up precious resources (namely water), then it makes perfect sense. If the beasts require a constant supply of corn, however, that wouldn't work so well.

    9. Re:Good book, but has some holes by HeckRuler · · Score: 2
      Whoa there, don't be a negative nancy. Seriously, this sort of doomsaying is what gets the fundies' undies in a twist.

      The next generation of nuclear plants is not fusion. You're looking WAY too far down the road. For that matter, CURRENT generation nuclear plants are perfectly viable. Sure, they have that risk of meltdown and the fuel isn't renewable. But meltdowns are rare, and there's quite a lot of fuel.

      The whole economy is based upon oil and coal.

      Oil is transportation and coal is grid power. And yes, those are two fundamental resources that our society needs. But there are alternatives. And... there is no such thing as "peak green". Oil, coal, and even nuclear material peaks because there's a set amount of it. That's the whole gimmick of renewable resources. If you want more, go make it. How will we go make it? Well we'll need resources to go make it, ie, people.

      may kill off much of the human infestation of the planet

      Yeah. This. This right here. This is the sort of evil megalomaniac spiel that paints you as "that evil guy". It puts the entire "think green" movement in REALLY bad light.

      The cost of power will rise greatly; its highly unlikely to go down. This makes it cheaper to use animals and self-powered devices. A beast of burden has an upkeep cost but it reproduces itself cheaply and while it may not run as well as a machine it requires less infrastructure which may become so costly that it comes out cheaper to operate.

      Well thank god you made an attempt to steer this back onto the topic of the book. Listen, it's fantasy. Using animals as energy conversion tools doesn't work out. It's a bio-punk book. Just like steam-power is a romantic notion that doesn't really pan out, neither does this. But it's fun to pretend.
      If that was your rational for how to suspend your disbelief for a little while, that's fantastic. But taken together with the rant above it, I've got to tell you to step away from the sci-fi section and go get a healthy dose of reality.

    10. Re:Good book, but has some holes by Fubari · · Score: 2

      Short answer: you're right.
      Longer answer: you're right, and - our food supply is essentially based on our oil economy (industrialized agriculture, fertilizer...).
      So let's talk about oil for a moment:
      An optimist might say we (the Human Race) are transitioning from an oil economy to renewables.
      A pessimist would say we're moving far too slowly.
      What happens if we never get around to replacing oil before it runs out?
      What if something (maybe a world war, or plague, or blight, or a financial crisis) upset the economy so that the transition never finishes?
      We don't have much easy left to reach oil now; in a MadMax world, who is going to be building new deep-sea drilling platforms? My point is that our oil supply is probably more fragile than most people would care to think about.

      Next, I think it is a fair statement that many of today's renewable energy systems are bootstrapped from hydrocarbon based economy (e.g. coal & oil). (citation needed? ok: by bootstrapped, I mean: Manufacturing wind turbines requires steel, concrete and aluminum. ... It takes about 9 months of operation before the wind turbine becomes carbon neutral.).
      *shrug* It is easy to take oil for granted; just imagine how many trucks & trains are involved in the shipping + mining + fabrication + construction + cement mixing for a single wind turbine? Now imagine doing it with no oil / gas / diesel. So... you're going to haul wind turbine components to construction sites with... what, horses? Your friend's Tesla Roadster? Note: I don't know much about the infrastructure necessary for creating mass-deployable photovoltaics; I suspect you need something fairly industrial-scale to make it viable.
      "So what about hydro? That's a great renewable." Yes today there are high output hydroelectric facilities, but how do you build those without heavy earth moving equipment + multi-ton turbines & generators? Small-scale hydro electric is swell if you're close to a suitable water drop but... what do you do if the infrastructure to manufacture and ship you a generator isn't there anymore? (Yeah you could go hack on some car alternators or something like that, but you're not going to be running a city off that any time soon.)

      The story was set in future Thailand. Thailand's "calorie economy" was implied to be more prosperous than the rest of the planet in that they had enough wealth (food) to sustain a fairly large population. About your point of food being scarce, yeah - I think that was true. Which means it would really suck to be on the low-end of the economic food chain.

      An implication in the story was that the "corporate superpowers" rose to power by causing a food-based economic collapse by introducing a blight in an effort to corner the market. How many psychopathic MBA's do you suppose are dreaming of a business plan like this:
      1) Addict planet to 2 or 3 monoculture crops
      2) Covertly release your new Super Blight that kills those crops
      3) Wait for hilarity to ensue (e.g. famine, war).
      4) Offer to "Save the Day" with Super Blight Resistant crops.
      5) Profit!
      Now revise the plan to "Say 'Oh Snap!' when Super Blight mutates and kills your "resistant" crops, ruining your business model."
      It seemed that there was an evolutionary arms race between blight & crops; one of the main characters was trying to negotiate with the government to gain access to the country's "gene rights" to find new strains of plants....

      Having said all that, "Windup Girl" was an interesting read. :-)

  4. Three year old book review? by heptapod · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Windup Girl came out in September 2009 and now you're getting around to reviewing it?

    Let me tell ya, there's an awesome book by this guy named Bob Heinlein. He named it "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" and I heard it's pretty good. I'd better get cracking on that review before it's too late!

    1. Re:Three year old book review? by Macgrrl · · Score: 2

      Oddly enough, "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" is our book club book for next month.

      It's my turn to pick next and we will be doing "Brave New World".

      Just because a book is 'old' doesn't mean it's not worthy of consideration or that everyone is familiar with it.

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  5. Slashdot: by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Funny

    News for Nerd. Stuff that matters. Reviews of fiction published two years ago.

    1. Re:Slashdot: by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      yeah well apparently the reviewer thinks it's ok to push it because it paints a bleak omg fossil fuels end and then it's shit for everyone picture of the world..

      like.. fuck.. could just as well review Make Room! Make Room! then..

      real kicker is of course that it's actually an advert. no, i'm not going to buy it on amazon. I didn't buy it when I read the synopsis on the paperback either. I might read it, some day, but it seemed cliche shit from the synopsis and this review doesn't help that impression.

      "Bacigalupi – largely – succeeds because he recognizes that human nature doesn't change over time: elites are only too willing to exercise control with force; the outsiders and those are who different are always vulnerable" -- fucking black and white shit bred in fear and almost as bad english as my ramblings, but to me it sounds like the writer just went where the fence is lowest and didn't even bother to think how real people would act in the long run in the scenario he thought up, just evil elite vs. poor bullied underlings crap. the reviewer even admits that the book isn't captivating, yet somehow feels compelled to recommend it - perhaps it's the only fucking book he managed to read in few years and this just because the title is almost like out of GITS?

      since this is a book thread I'd recommend Spook Country because it's pretty much the only book I remember reading last year, even if bit cliche at least it's captivating.

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  6. Starts strong, then levels of and gets boring by gweihir · · Score: 2

    Unfortunately, it bogs down after a while and things move glacially and in circles. I did not finish the book and stopped somewhere in the middle. Pretty rare for me. For me that makes is more a 3/10.

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    1. Re:Starts strong, then levels of and gets boring by c0d3g33k · · Score: 3, Informative

      Agreed. This book received more buzz than was warranted, and the substance was lacking. As you say, it starts off strong, but never really delivers. I slogged through until the end, but more out of stubbornness than because it was a compelling read. I couldn't help but think that in the hands of a more capable writer, this could have been an incredible story, but the reality was less compelling.

    2. Re:Starts strong, then levels of and gets boring by Pescar · · Score: 2

      I've only read "pump six and other stories", his collection of short stories mostly from the same universe, and I thought it was amazing.
      The creativity and originality of the world and ideas he packed into those short stories was astounding, so if "The Windup Girl" flags towards the end, I recommend you give pump six a look.

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    3. Re:Starts strong, then levels of and gets boring by liquiddark · · Score: 2

      Along with Ian McDonald, Bacigalupi is part of a wave of authors doing a good job of using non-traditional, non-fluff settings for near-future fiction. His characters, despite what the GP would have you believe, are pretty vividly drawn. Calling the white guy the main character is a non-starter. It's a collisionist book, with many threads crossing one another to paint a more complete picture of the setting and the action. The actual language is beautiful. There are hard things about the book that seem to derive directly from the hard things about the cultural extrapolations the author is drawing. In general, it's just good writing, period. Not easy writing, not obsessive compulsive series fiction, but good, solid, literary science fiction in an unusual setting with a diverse cast. It's hard to imagine how it would not be at least in contention for a ton of awards.

  7. It's a good story by ngreenfeld · · Score: 2

    While I like "classic sf" (meaning technology and adventure), this was a very good read. It has enough stuff to cause some thinking, not just the entertainment value. I highly recommend it to anyone who's getting a little bored with current SF.

  8. Enjoyed the book by schlesinm · · Score: 2

    Yes there were some minor plot holes, but overall it was a wonderful book(my review). Bacigalupi is one of my new favorite writers.

  9. Fun read, not quite (scientifically) accurate by wisebabo · · Score: 3, Informative

    So, for a dystopian novel (and if you read it closely it is VERY dystopian with what's left of mankind scavenging for what few "calories" they can) I thought is was a "fun" read. Maybe that's because I've been to BKK many many times (I live in Vietnam) and it is the preferred destination for most expats R&R. (In addition to being a "Disneyland for adults", Bangkok consistently is rated the world's top tourist destination for being cheap AND fun! ;). The author gets many details about Bangkok right while projecting it into the despairing future; I especially like the abandoned skyscrapers that are today the icons of the city.

    Unfortunately for the novel (but very fortunately for us!) there is no way the world will turn out that bad at least not due to the overwhelming shortage of energy he predicts. Even if we completely run out of fossil fuels (unlikely) or have their use almost completely prohibited worldwide to stop climate change (a bit less unlikely), it looks like renewables will save our energy butts. Even now solar and wind are *only* a factor of two or three times more expensive than fossil fuels; we may be headed for a poorer world (and one in which air travel will again be a luxury only for the rich) but we won't be so desperately scavenging for energy as to make genetically engineered animals (and people!) a necessary substitute. Of course he did this partly to play up the "wind up" aspects of a society which requires this animal energy to be stored up somehow but I'm very glad it won't come to pass.

    His climate change predictions, on the other hand, are much more spot on and do foretell a world where the major coastal cities of the world are under constant threat of inundation. :(. As well as it being very hot and humid. :( :(

  10. Read it, liked it, try this... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Informative
    I enjoyed the book, though another poster was correct that no mention of solar or biomass energies was a gaping hole, though I imagine the lack of biomass fuels was due to the difficulties in growing actual food stuffs. The stories of the world and the Windup Girl herself are simply coincidental but work nicely together. Overall a well written, but fairly conventional plot and progression.

    I recently read the Jump 225 Trilogy by David Louis Edelman consisting of Infoquake , Multireal, and Geosynchron. and found them more interesting, but think the author was uncertain how to wrap up the series, which left me a little unsatisfied at the end.

    If you want hardcore sci-fi, try Alastair Reynolds and his Revelation Space series.

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  11. Vilest book I've read in years by billstewart · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was fine with the dystopian energy-crisis food-shortage spy-novel paranoid stuff - it was creative, and some of it was well-written, and I wasn't bothered by the cartoon-physics use of genetically engineered elephants to wind fancy springs that seems to annoy a lot of engineers. But the genetically-engineered-women-just-deserve-sex-slavery-and-killing theme that makes up about half the book was really vile. I found it far more squicky and offensive than when a bad imitation Conan the Barbarian character rapes his conquests, and IMHO that part was almost as badly written.

    I didn't see how it rated a Hugo award, in spite of the creativity and the complexity of the plot.

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    1. Re:Vilest book I've read in years by hoggoth · · Score: 3, Informative

      Heh, if you think that is vile, try reading Bacigalupi's 'People of Sand and Slag'. He's a brilliant writer, but he always gets under my skin and makes me sad for human nature. For a real fun treat, read Vicker's 'The Featherless Chicken'. http://www.strangehorizons.com/2005/20051024/featherless-f.shtml

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  12. Unlikeable by steveha · · Score: 2

    A friend told me the book was great. It won Hugo and Nebula awards, more evidence that it's great. But I am stopped reading it and I'm finding it difficult to make myself pick it up again.

    My main complaint is that I'm around ten chapters in, and so far I don't like anyone. Maybe I should like Emiko, but I haven't seen much of her. But the business exec is harsh, people around him are plotting to stab him in the back, the union that controls the matodonts is corrupt and obnoxious, Thai government officials are corrupt and obnoxious... I find the book unpleasant to read.

    Reading this book made me think: in any story you need to make a connection with at least one of the major characters. Usually it should be a positive connection: you are rooting for the hero and want him/her to triumph. Sometimes it can be a negative connection: you start to really want to see the character's plans foiled.

    In my favorite stories, there is not just one but several characters I connect with, and usually right from the first chapter. Not so this book.

    And, like another Slashdotter commented, I have to wonder why solar power doesn't seem important. The concept of treadle-operated office computers is kind of cool, but it doesn't really make sense to me. Business desktop computers of the 90's were less powerful than today's ARM or SOC computers, so you ought to be able to run business computers 100 years from now on sunlight. Especially in Thailand!

    If you love steampunk sort of stuff, then the "bio-punk" in this novel might capture your imagination. I certainly found the background and the technology more interesting than the characters. Global warming has made the seas rise, and fossil fuels are depleted, so the technology is all different. They use "mastodonts" to wind "kink-springs", and these "kink-springs" are sold to anyone who needs portable power without putting carbon emissions into the atmosphere. So airships run on kink-spring power, and sailing ships ply the oceans, and nobody can afford to operate airplanes or motorized ships anymore. (You might think the Internet would be hugely important, since it is so much cheaper to ship bits through a cable than to move humans around, but it doesn't figure much into the chapters I read.)

    steveha

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  13. IPv6 by TheSync · · Score: 2

    Did they manage to wide-scale convert to IPv6 by the 23rd century?

  14. reviewing old books (plus RAH) by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2

    Reviewing old books is perhaps not that bad an idea. Many people haven't read The Windup Girl, or even The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Especially with RAH, with no new books coming out, there are no big advertising pushes for his works, even though they're republished periodically. Moon isn't even available in Kindle format for some bizarre reason. (I'm about to scan one of my copies so I can have it on my Kindle. If it's ever available in Kindle format, I'll buy it.)

    I was at a sci-fi con a couple of years ago, and the _only_ author who had a discussion panel dedicated to their works - was Robert Heinlein. Sadly, the average age of the people there was quite high. I can't help but wonder if some new reviews on a site like Slashdot might encourage the young'uns to pick up some RAH and give it a go. Maybe some even older stuff like E.E. Doc Smith.

  15. DRM-free ebook edition at Baen by Graftweed · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm surprised this wasn't linked from either the review of the comments so far, but the wonderful lads at Baen have the DRM-free ebook edition.