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IBM Seeks Patent On Judging Programmers By Commits

theodp writes "How'd you like to be deemed unworthy of a job based upon a scan of your GitHub updates? That's what proposed in a newly-published IBM patent application for Automated Analysis of Code Developer's Profile, which proposes weeding out developer candidates for certain roles based on things like the amount of changes one typically makes with each commit, how frequently and regularly one makes commits, what hours of the day one makes commits, the percentage of commits with conflicts that one resolves, and the 'depth' of one's commit comments ('shallow', 'mid-range' or 'deep'). Big Blue explains that commit or repository interactions can be used to produce a 'conclusion report' that compares a developer to others who have profiles on the repository, which helps management 'avoid wasted time with ineffective developers."

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  1. What crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The guy that spends a week finding a five year old memory bug, that no one has every been able to find is now ineffective, whereas a dweeb performing trivial refactoring is classed as a genius?

    1. Re:What crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Programmers will just figure out how to game the system and get good reviews for their checkins. That's what happened when they tried to institute a number of lines of code metric.

  2. Tool for idiots by Anonymous+Codger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a tool for idiot managers who don't understand programming and who have no clue how to manage programmers, and who want to look like they're in the loop. There's no way I'd stick around in a job where I was judged based on this absurdity.

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    1. Re:Tool for idiots by Hentes · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This exactly. If you can't hire "efficient" coders, it might be a clue that you need more efficient managers.

  3. What do eHarmony and IBM have in common..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They're both full of people who are afraid to commit.

  4. Good by will_die · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let IBM have the patents that way no other vendor will add theses to thier products.

  5. I'm going to patent... by spidercoz · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...judging companies by the number of bullshit patents they file.

    Business methods are NOT inventions, they do NOT advance the sciences or useful arts, and SHOULD NOT BE PATENTABLE!

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  6. What Multidimensional Crap! by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The guy that spends a week finding a five year old memory bug, that no one has every been able to find is now ineffective, whereas a dweeb performing trivial refactoring is classed as a genius?

    The examples are endless so I'll provide another that I 1) witness monthly and 2) have been on either side of. You have the programmer that, when presented with implementing a solution to a complex problem, sits down and draws out class diagrams on paper and erases and redraws while that is cheap and writes the code once many days later and makes small changes to it as it is tested/refined. You also have the programmer that dives right in, may well discover that this was a really expensive solution though easy to code and has it constantly sent back to him after testing only to have to rewrite major portions of it and/or realize then that he/she is reinventing the wheel leading to major changes to try to use another library and, well, this run-on sentence like their work could go on forever while your first programmer was done weeks ago. And who gets the major commit and repository score?

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    1. Re:What Multidimensional Crap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      IBM employees get bonuses for submitting patents. Therefore there are always peeps at IBM cooking up some kind of crazy patent so they can get it past the patent board at IBM and get it submitted to USPTO and get their little bonus. The effectiveness of all this is all subjective and marginal. Why do you guys think IBM has the most number of patents.

  7. Translation by davidbrit2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "IBM Seeks Patent On Poor Management"

  8. So once the algorithm is made... by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Then the programmers will just change how they comment their code.
    When I was doing consulting I got dinged because as part of my time breakdown I put Bug Fixes as a line item. After I got dinged for that (Because they didn't want to pay for faulty coding) I changed bug fixes to specification changes. They were happy with that. For the most part good employees what to be honest about their work, however if you make a system where honesty is punished, then people will start stretching the truth.

    No one has really found a good way to evaluate a programmers efficiency, mostly because if they do their job right they are not doing the same thing every day so their output will very. There were attempts of measurements like Lines of code which meant programmers started to write more verbose code and doing more copy and paste and less objects and procedures. Then they try to measure by number of projects or sub projects they produced, so the experience developers will jump on and take up the quick and easy projects leaving the ones that require more work to the newbies. Then there reporting by bugs tracked later on, now this had the problem where the developers would take so much time to make sure there weren't any bugs reported that the product never left the shelf or put try and catches that jumped over errors cases and hid the fact the bug happened only to appear in someone else section of code.

    Software Developers/Programmers do the job that computers cannot do. So it is difficult to use computers to monitor their performance just because their work is a lot less calculated.

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  9. They need the incentive by Sloppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember, if The computer company, who happens to hire a great many programmers, were not granted a monopoly on this technique for hiring programmers, then they would have no incentive to develop the technique.

    If you don't grant this patent, why should IBM innovate ways to figure who to hire? What's in it for them?

    It is only by forcefully preventing the other companies in the tech industry from doing things like this, for two decades, that technology as a whole can move forward.

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  10. Not close enough by Asic+Eng · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've encountered this thinking frequently: "we can't measure everything objectively, so we'll just measure something somewhat related - that's got to be better than not measuring anything."

    Sounds reasonable, but is actually wrong and dangerous. Engineers will identify what you are measuring and will change accordingly - which skews the results. And worse some will not change out of a sense of obligation or pigheadedness - which also skews the results because others do. Even if the thing you measured originally had some correlation with what you *wanted* to measure - it will no longer do that once you start measuring.

    At least they are patenting it, which should prevent others from introducing this dumb idea.

  11. An actually useful metric I heard was used by mbkennel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    15 years or more ago, I had a friend in a high-level consulting company (as in contract programming stars, not powerpoint pushers). Their usual m.o. was to pay 2x the going rate and expect 5x to 10x the productivity and brains.

    They had a contract with IBM fixing bugs in I think AIX or something (lucrative and endless). They shared the bug data base with IBM's own workers, who were working on the same project.

    Clever gits that they are, they mined the bug data base algorithmically to look for old bugs which were opened, had many people work on them unsuccessfully, but were eventually closed. They identified one IBM employee (out of dozens/hundreds) who was able to fix demonstrably hard bugs (that other employees had tried and failed to address) consistently.

    So, they made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

  12. Re:So this patent is good! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    If only they
    had patented
    the metric
    for judging
    code by
    number of
    lines written/
    changed/
    updated
    .