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Journalist Arrested For Tweet Deported to Saudi Arabia
New submitter cosmicaug writes with an update to yesterday's report that journalist Hamza Kashgari had been arrested by Malaysian police acting on a request conveyed from the Saudi government via Interpol. Now, says the BBC, "Police confirmed to the BBC that Hamza Kashgari was sent back to Saudi Arabia on Sunday despite protests from human rights groups. Mr Kashgari's controversial tweet last week sparked more than 30,000 responses and several death threats. Insulting the prophet is considered blasphemous in Islam and is punishable by death in Saudi Arabia. Mr Kashgari, 23, fled Saudi Arabia last week and was detained upon his arrival in the Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur on Thursday." Writes cosmicaug: "Sadly, the most likely outcome is that they are going to execute this man for three tweets."
As far as I know, most western countries have a policy that states "If a man will be executed upon being sent to a country, you are not allowed to send this man to the country, nor are you allowed to deport him to a country that may deport him to the country in question", or something similar. Disregard the lack of Lawyer shargon, but instead: Why was this rule not followed?
Separation of State and Church = good.
The US used to have the moral high ground to protest these sort of things. What a difference a decade makes.
According to article 3 of Interpol's own constitution, they are explicitly forbidden to engage in matters of religious character. So either they were deceived about the nature of the "crime" or they ignored their own principles.
Because you obviously don't understand how Interpol works. Interpol is basically a big forum where various police agencies around the world share warrants, police investigations and the like. When one member country says they have warrants for joe smith, Interpol simply distributes the warrant and information to all other members nations. Interpol doesn't check the warrant or see why it's being issued, they just make a note in Joe Smith record and when it's pulled up by another country custom officers, they just see, so and so has warrant against them issued by another country and details of warrant. It's up to individual country to make determination if they are going to follow the warrant or not. 99.99% of the time, warrants are for stuff that all members countries that are consider illegal. Murder, rape, child related charges, drug traffic offenses.
With Islam, there is no such thing as moderate Islam.
Turn the clock back 600 years or so (the difference in age between Christianity an Islam) and look at the behavior of the Catholic Church.
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition ....
Have gnu, will travel.
How can you judge yours to be better,
Really? You can't summon the perspective to see that a moral system that stones women to death for teaching their daughters to read is fundamentally, objectively inferior to a system that doesn't do so?
Who cares if moral systems are based on different things? When they're based on death worship, for example, they are inherently, irrationally self destructive. When a moral code is based on lies (say, about the nature of the world around you) it is a code that embraces untruth as its foundation. Do you really find no means, in your own reckoning, to separate such a value system from one that seeks and acknowledges reality?
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
Interpol's Wikipedia article says that "[i]n order to maintain as politically neutral a role as possible, Interpol's constitution forbids it to undertake any interventions or activities of a political, military, religious, or racial nature." That, and "[u]ntil the 1980s Interpol did not intervene in the prosecution of Nazi war criminals in accordance with Article 3 of its Constitution forbidding intervention in 'political' matters."
So, Nazi war crimes are political, but insulting the Prophet is not religious. This does not surprise. Interpol's full name is the International Criminal Police Organization; it was called the the International Criminal Police Commission (ICPC) prior to 1956. Past Presidents of the ICPC include Ernst Kaltenbrunner and Reinhard Heydrich. When Heydrich was planning the Final Solution at the Wannsee Conference, he was President of the ICPC. If you think that this background gives me a certain lack of respect for the ICPO, you are correct.
1) Replace coal fired electricity generation with nuclear power
2) Use the coal now not being burned to produce electricity, to instead produce synthetic liquid fuels (Fischer Tropsch process, etc)
3) Electricification of transportation (Electric commuter cars, electricified rail transport etc)
4) Nuclear powered merchant shipping (by this stage ecconomies of scale in step 1 should have driven down the cost of nuclear plant, fuel assembly and spent fuel reprocessing, etc).
5) Bring our soldiers home as foreign oil becomes increasingly irrelevant...
6) Reprocess the spent nuclear fuel, vitrify the fission products and bury them in a deep hole, and send the rest of the spent fuel (unfissioned uranium and transuranics like plutonium) back to a reactor for another fuel cycle.
7) Export advanced nuclear reactor technoloy to the rest of the world $$$
= Cleaner air in our cities, reduced CO2 emissions, eleminate dependance on foreign oil, stop pissing of other countries by sending our soldiers to their neighbourhood, etc
But no, instead of doing the above as an ecconomic stimulus, we (the western world) will spend billions/trillions on fighting wars in the mid east to secure our oil supply (money up in smoke?)
Let's bankrupt ourselves like Spain on the green energy=jobs wild goose chase.
Yeah its not like the western world has already bankrupted itself with the "if we make a few people billionaires for wearing a suit and talking a lot, the rest will trickle down"
oh wait..
That's the thing, Muslims don't. Saudi Arabia is a dictatorship that rules by a king who was installed by the British. Their meager population is 1.75% of all Muslims worldwide. Consider this, there are 2x as many Muslims in China than Saudi Arabia, should we judge Islam and Muslims based on that? (It's equally ridiculous)
Saudi Arabia has been criticized by every other Muslim country for its backwardness and repression. There is no other Muslim country that bans women from driving, and Muslim leaders abroad have led the call to pressure the King to drop the ban. Millions of Muslims like myself have signed petitions calling on them to recognize greater religious freedom and human rights. As a Muslim, I'd like to see an Arab Spring in Saudi, but unfortunately the US government has been selling the Saudi government weapons and tools to suppress the population. The Saudi king doesn't really own cows, so why is he importing thousands of cattle prods and giving them to the police forces?
Try actually talking to Muslims, or heck, reading Muslim blogs/tweets/newspapers, before you assume that we all support such an abomination. There's no place in the Quran where it says a king should ever rule over people.
And stop selling weapons to these dipshits.
Proud member of the Ferengi Socialist Party.
Where are the coal versions of Fukushima and Chernobyle? Surely you can point to tens of examples easily as coal has been in use much longer and on a larger scale.
Why yes, one can -- of course, the exact examples you are looking for depend on what aspects of "Fukushima and Chernobyle" you are asking for coal-mining versions of.
Are you asking about examples of sudden, unexpected disasters causing mass death or destruction of nearby cities? Okay, here are some:
Ok Tedi disaster
Buffalo Creek Flood
Or perhaps you are asking about situations in which large numbers of industry workers were killed in an accident? Yep, we've got those too... thousands of coal workers die from accidents every year.
Or maybe you're wondering about if there are entire regions whose ecosystem has been destroyed by coal? Yes, there are.
Or perhaps you are asking about the slow-motion health and environmental damage caused by coal even when everything is working as designed? Yup, there's that as well.
Nuclear certainly has its problems, but coal is much, much, much worse.
I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.