Despite Media Confusion, Raspberry Pi Boards Still On Schedule
Last Friday, an article in Eurogamer about the Raspberry Pi's upcoming release threw a wrench in the mental gears of anyone hoping to soon order one of the long-awaited (and much anticipated) boards, which had been expected to be ready for orders sometime this month. The piece was based on an interview with David Braben — since picked up, and subsequently corrected, by others as well — and it gave the impression both that a sudden delay had cropped up in the schedule (so that the boards wouldn't be available for consumers until September), and that the price might rise as well. The Raspberry Pi site says that both of these were mistaken, and clarifies (with some bold print, even): "You will be able to buy a Raspberry Pi from the end of February, from this website. The 'consumer release' that Eurogamer is talking about is actually the educational release, which, as you’ll be aware if you’ve been hanging out on our forums, will come with a kid-targetted software stack, a heap of written support materials, and a standard case." That educational version sounds like it's got enough value added to justify a higher price and a longer wait, but you can unwrench those gears if you're just interested in the plain (unboxed) board instead.
It runs Linux ... I want one!
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I have a feeling these things are going to sell out fast - hopefully the Foundation was able to accurately predict the demand, or can ramp up production quickly.
Translation: I'm really excited about this, and suspect a lot of other people will be too.
Sorry buddy, but this is Raspberry Pi. You're looking for Apple Pi.
Release has always been slated at "hopefully" Q4 2011, "possibly" Q1 2012.
(Addendum because I can't edit... s/possibly/if not then/)
Let's hope that when the Foundation goes back to their supplier and asks for the next run, much larger, that their supplier doesn't explain how things just got more popular^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hexpensive, darn, the price went up. Our bad.
Ack.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
If you hold a principled opposition to PayPal why don't you send a nice email to the R-Pi foundation stating your objections and reasons. I'm sure they'll take it under advisement -- they seem very well collected on other matters so far. I would not be surprised if they actually changed merchant bank based on responses from users. In fact, I'll email them right now!
Why don't you just stop reading these updates if you're not interested in them?
Mada mada dane.
I seem to recall some hype for early last fall, then pretty sure by december, then certainly january. Oh, *definitely* february. Looks like it's going to be march, at this rate.
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You'd probably want ethernet (model b) for a cluster. But you could probably cluster them together using a (much slower) connection via i2c/spi/usb or straight gpio.
http://soylentnews.org/~tibman
such as 'they just soldered R234 in place!'
They did? SCHWEET!. That's a huge milestone.
(making that one up).
WTF? Dammit. You had me going. I was completely looking forward to the completion of the soldering of the entire R200 series.
Meanie.
these micro-updates don't really belong here. there is such a thing is too much pushing of a product.
the thing will sell well, but please stop blatantly trying to get the name in the news every other week, ok?
You're just mad because it's not a bitcoin story.
For values of "anyone" meaning the first 10000 people to get in before the server implodes.
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
Liz from Raspberry Pi here. Afraid you're misreading; that's totally wrong. It's worth reading the clarification post on our website that this article is about, which was written because a couple of media outlets had come to exactly the conclusion you just have.
We've filled the first batch with Model Bs because demand is so high, but we'll be producing Model A devices immediately after that. And the educational version will cost $25 or $35 - yes, with a bundled case - depending on whether it's a Model A or B.
Does that mean "Elite 4" is finally going to be produced on Raspberry PI Platform? Joking apart, I did not realize until I read this /. article and the related wikipedia page, that Inspector Braben was behind it. Kudos for him.
Name one.
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
Er, what? Their FAQ states that they accept most major cards (so probably everything except American Express) and offline payments as well as PayPal.
So? Do you really want one without Ethernet?
do we have to know about each new milestone, such as 'they just soldered R234 in place!' (making that one up).
Yes.
these micro-updates don't really belong here. there is such a thing is too much pushing of a product.
This is one of the hottest new computers in years, which is hilarious to boot because it is so poorly-featured compared to all the other hottest new computers. I want all the micro-updates.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I do. It will have a tiny USB WiFi dongle plugged in to the USB2 port and the HDMI hooked up to my TV and I will drive it via a web interface. I don't need the rest of the hardware, so it might as well be cheaper.
I mean, I also want one with Ethernet, but it's not like it's great ethernet, it's just hung off USB anyway.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
> Do you really want one without Ethernet?
I do.
Warning: this article may contain humor, sarcasm, parody, and perhaps even irony. Read at your own risk.
You'd probably want ethernet (model b) for a cluster. But you could probably cluster them together using a (much slower) connection via i2c/spi/usb or straight gpio.
the ethernet comes from the USB2 bus, so in fact, you would want the model A for a cluster unless you needed the additional memory of the model B.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Yes. Open Linux boards have been around for quite some time. None of them have ever been this cheap before. If you disagree, please tell me where I can buy a 700Mhz SOC that runs Linux with similar peripherals (Ethernet, HDMI, Composite, 256MB RAM, USB, 16 GPIO lines) and about the size of a credit card for $35 or less?
Routerboard 400Mhz $59
...
Gumstix Overo Sand COM 600Mhz $115
Beagleboard 720Mhz $125
Beaglebone 700Mhz $89
Raspberry Pi 700Mhz $35
If you're going to be worried about noise, there are many other articles and categories higher up on the shit list. Also lols at Slashdot being educated and filtered - it hasn't been that for a while.
I for one welcome our new R-pi overlords.
Hallelujah, Jesus has returned!
lame AC: meh, isn't he late?
I'm sorry.. i'm lost (help me!) or you're mistaken. That link says model A won't have ethernet but B will. Unless you were saying you can use a usb dongle for ethernet?
http://soylentnews.org/~tibman
I'm sorry.. i'm lost (help me!)
you didn't read far enough down the page. Keep trying:
IOW, if you can get a USB2 to ethernet adapter under $10, and you can, you're better off with the A version unless you need all the RAM, because it's a little smaller and you get flexibility of network interfaces.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Ah, gotcha. Thanks
http://soylentnews.org/~tibman
Raspberry Pi news is *very much* news for nerds, it is very much the very core of what Slashdot is about. If you don't like it, then perhaps Slashdot isn't the site for you.
You can always just not read the stories.
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What medio confusion? Last I heard, they started producing, and everything was smooth. Or did I miss an article?
That looks cool, but it appears to only be sold in China.
Rhombus-tech's hypothetical $15 Allwinner A10 system doesn't even exist yet. It's pure theory at this point. The closest thing to it is a $2000 development board that Allwinner makes with the A10 SOC. Also Rhombus-tech quote of $15 is a guess based on a purchase quantity of 100,000 units.
Slashdot is "News for Nerds"... Raspberry Pi is relevant content... don't like it? Then go somewhere else...
Donald 'Duck' Dunn: We had a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.
Er, what? Their FAQ states that they accept most major cards (so probably everything except American Express) and offline payments as well as PayPal.
Stop introducing facts to spoil the Two Minute Hate.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
I have multiple projects planned already. The first is to use it as a very cheap, simple router. I have a zyxel wireless AP, but it won't accept USB tethered cell phones as WAN connections. So I'm going to use the cell phones as usb modems to the rasberry pi and use the pi as an ethernet gateway to the zyxel.
The next project is to use the rasberry pi + old monitors as thin clients to my servers. That way I can monitor them from my desk without going through a full computer. (Other option is to buy cheap android tablets to do it.)
I do security
The boards are in manufacturing, expected to complete on Feb 20th. The most recent holdup came down to a misunderstanding as to whether a particular form factor of piezo crystal was easily available in China at the expected price, because the same crystal is easily available and cheap in the UK. The Raspberry Pi team have been incredibly open and patient in explaining to the many, many people visiting their web site how the design decisions have been made, and what has been taking all the time in going from an alpha board prototype to a ready to manufacture product.
When the goal is to produce something in large quantities for low price, and the project is done by people with great skill but also other competing demands on their time (like, their day jobs), it's not surprising there have been some delays in trying to get the board design to the point of manufacture. I've been following the project for months, and it has struck me how the degree of openness of this project has added more work for the RasPi team in having to clarify/dispel misconceptions and ill-founded rumours - such as when a simple mention of 10,000 "parts kits" being on order caused some people to start thinking that the RasPi was not going to be fully assembled, simply because they didn't understand the meaning of that phrase in that context, and had not read the FAQ - and yet the RasPi team keep telling us what is going on because that is the ethos of the project.
I've got no association with the project, other than frank admiration at their dedication and focus on meeting their real goals, which is not to ship device X by time T, but to spark a renewed interest in the actual study and practise of computing.
-Snorbert, somewhere in the antipodes