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UK Law Enforcement Starts Seizing Music Blogs

Grumbleduke writes "From Dajaz1 (a site that is no stranger to unjustified copyright takedowns) we learn that the popular R&B website rnbxclusive.com (warning: threatening message on site) has allegedly been seized by the Serious Organized Crime Agency, a UK law enforcement agency, and its operators arrested on fraud charges. Not only does the replacement message contain a number of factually dubious claims, it also shows the visitor's IP address, browser and operating system, and threatens to track and monitor them. At a time when copyright lobby groups are strongly pushing for even greater powers through laws such as SOPA and ACTA, one is left wondering why they think they need them, when police can shut down websites such as this at will."

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  1. Is that a real thing? by mosb1000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I can't believe there's actually a crime fighting organization called the Serious Organized Crime Agency. It's hard to imagine how they could have a sillier name, or who would feel threatened by something called that. Maybe they should upgrade it to the Super Serious Organized Crime Agency, or maybe even Super Serious Organized Crime Agency Plus.

  2. Analysis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, apparently the agency does care about IP href="http://http://www.soca.gov.uk/threats/intellectual-property-crime"> [soca.gov.uk]
    The Whois shows it's still owned by 'Suheil Saiyed'; last update Jan 4.
    The IP address the domain currently points to (83.138.166.114) is in San Antonio, Texas, and is owned by Rackspace.com, an American company.
    The wording on the adver..erm..warning is over-the-top, and is unlikely to have originated from a real governmental agency.
    also, it specifically references a commercial site (something a real government agency wouldn't do).
    Here's an article on Ars Technica about a similar incident IP href="http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/06/no-the-feds-didnt-seize-your-domain-youve-just-been-punked.ars"> [Ars Technica]
    All in all, I'm pretty sure it's a hoax.
    And I'm suspecting the folks behind pro-music.org (the site referenced in the 'warning').

  3. Re:Darknets by sugarbomb · · Score: 5, Informative

    Complain away!

    http://www.soca.gov.uk/contact-soca/complaints

    Complaints
    We do our utmost to provide the public with the best possible service, and to act professionally and courteously at all times. However if you want to complain about SOCA or a SOCA officer, first please look at our complaints process

    Then, if you wish to make a complaint, you can contact:

    SOCA Counter Corruption Department
    PO Box 58396,
    London
    NW1W 9SB

    Telephone: 020 7238 2626
    Email: publiccomplaints@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk

    If you would rather complain to the Independent Police Complaints Commission or you are not happy with the way your complaint about a SOCA officer has been handled, you should contact:

    The Independent Police Complaints Commission
    90 High Holborn
    London
    WC1V 6BH

    Telephone: 08453 002 002
    Email: enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk

  4. Re:Darknets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    err... they don't actually pay the upcoming star $100,00 for a year... its called an "advance" and that money would be spent on production (studio time / musicians / song writers ) and promotion (travel / hotels / record company execs / record company promos / in store posters / record company execs / pre-release cd's for radio stations / record company spruikers / music video / record company execs ). It's really just a loan. The artist see'd none of it.

    As part of the advance the record company usually then own the copyright to the work (because they contracted the star to perform it for them).

    The reason the record companies give advances is they then charge interest and fees on top of that (remember most of that money was spent by the record company doing things in house). Then with every sale the record company repays the advance (and charges more management fees on top for accounting). A tiny portion of what is left makes its way to the artist in cash.

    The best part of it is, if that upcoming star becomes popular and tours, the record company still gets a cut as they own the copyright (just like a musical licenses its songs/music from the original writers).

    Believe me an artist never really wants an advance - a up coming start can be extinguished with the debt. I have a friend who sold over 100,000 albums and ended up with $1,000,000 debt to the record companies and is still touring 4 years later trying to make any money.