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Leaked Heartland Institute Documents Reveal Opposition To Science

New submitter bheerssen writes with an excerpt from an article by The Bad Astronomer: "The Heartland Institute — a self-described 'think tank' that actually serves in part as a way for climate change denialism to get funded — has a potentially embarrassing situation on their hands. Someone going by the handle 'Heartland Insider' has anonymously released quite a few of what are claimed to be internal documents from Heartland, revealing the Institute's strategies, funds, and much more." At least one site has the documents in question.

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  1. Relevant portion of one of the documents by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Principals and teachers are heavily biased toward the alarmist perspective. To counter this we are considering launching an effort to develop alternative materials for K-12 classrooms. We are pursuing a proposal from Dr. David Wojick to produce a global warming curriculum for K-12 schools. Dr. Wojick is a consultant with the office of Scientific and Technical Information at the U.S. Department of Energy in the area of information and communication science. His effort will focus on providing a curriculum that shows that the topic of climate change is controversial and uncertain--two key points that are effective at dissuading teachers from teaching science. We tentatively plan to pay Dr. Wojick $100,000 for 20 modules in 2012, with funding pledged by the Anonymous Donor.

    Wow, they didn't even bother to put the "science" in quotation marks. Guess they *really* never thought these documents would get out. Pretty dumb to use that kind of language, even in purely internal communications. About all they can say at this point is that it was a poorly-proofed typo (that they *meant* to say "bad science" or something). But even that would qualify as a Freudian slip of the fingers, methinks.

    Even creepier is the way they capitalize "the Anonymous Donor." Makes me think of a guy petting a cat in a secret island compound somewhere.

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    1. Re:Relevant portion of one of the documents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      even consider the possibility that the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

      When you put a far left kook and a far right kook in a room, you don't get "the middle" you get an insane asylum.

    2. Re:Relevant portion of one of the documents by Volante3192 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Unfortunately both sides of this subject have gotten far too emotional to even consider the possibility that the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

      I know, on one side we've got loads of data, models, research... On the other side, denial.

      If only we took half the data and half the denial, we'd ALL be right!

    3. Re:Relevant portion of one of the documents by hvm2hvm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You know what? I'm tired of these apathetic replies that say "Yeah so? Bad stuff happens. Nothing new".

      Yes, people with a lot of money will sometimes pay other people to do bad/evil stuff for them...

      The fact that everyone knows this doesn't mean we should just look away. On the contrary we should seek these guys and stop them. Hence why this is news. We get to find out about people paying for bad things and people doing bad things for money. We can stop and/or prosecute them.

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    4. Re:Relevant portion of one of the documents by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      'Creation Science'

      Creation science is an oxymoron ; there isn't any science in it. Proper science engages in rigorous efforts to prove itself wrong. Creationist "science" doctrine is just a bunch of assertions like "It's all too complicated to have arisen by chance!". The irony is that if they actually engaged in the scientific method, they would have to attempt to prove that speciation level changes DO arise from evolution (in order to try to disprove their hypothesis that they don't).

      Teachers don't want to teach science that's controversial and uncertain.

      Science teachers DO want to teach science. They just don't want to cop the flak because some parties are using political, rather than scientific methods, to promote their ideas by excluding others through force. Part of science is the in-built assumption that if the evidence contradicts your theory, then you change your theory - so it embraces and accommodates the concept of "uncertain". And perhaps that is the part of it deemed most dangerous by those who want to force the world to change to fit their mind, instead of the mind changing to fit the world.

    5. Re:Relevant portion of one of the documents by DavidTC · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While I'm not a libertarian, and in fact think most of them are fools lead by sociopaths, I must defend them here. There probably is a libertarian solution to all this. In fact, the right has promoted in the past:

      Cap and trade.

      Such a system is about as free as it comes, and works perfectly fine for regulating other scarce resources like the EM spectrum.

      Although the rights to a X amount of pollution should start evenly distributed in the hands of every American, actual human beings. Which most would turn back over to the government to put in a pool for corporations to bid on, for lower taxes...but people could, instead, choose to just tell them to fuck off, they're keeping and not using the credits. Charities could even be set up to bid against companies and buy and not-use pollution credits.

      That would be the free market solution, the libertarian solution. Assign every human being a specific amount of pollution they are allowed to cause, and they can freely sell it, or at least lease it. Or they can even buy more, or whatever. (Granted, the real implementation of this was not quite as good, because it started the credits in companies...but of all the proposals, it was the most libertarian, and could easily be changed once the system was set up.)

      The problem is, of course, that 'libertarian' and 'the right' only coincide when 'libertarian' coincides with 'business interests'. When cap and trade was laxer than what the left was proposing, the right was all for it. When it's what the left is proposing, big business move the goalposts, and the right moves along with it. Libertarians end up standing around confused, duped by the right once again, as one of the most libertarian solutions possible suddenly becomes a liberal conspiracy, and the business community^W^WRepublicans have once again moved back to the idea of using 'regulations' that they can manipulate, instead of the government saying 'We don't care how you do it, you can only produce X amount of pollution, and if you want more, you have to buy that right from someone else'.

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    6. Re:Relevant portion of one of the documents by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The other side (the ones you say that have nothing but "denial") says the data, models, and research is not comprehensive enough to support the grandiose claims being made,

      Yes, that's denial.

      and they have their own data, models, research,

      No they don't.

      and conclusions which conflict with the AGW proponents.

      Conclusions, sure they've got loads of those. But that wasn't in the list of the previous poster, you added that. Anyone can have conclusions. But the denialist ones have no credibility. Especially now.

      Now if this were *real* science, one side or the other would be able to unequivocally silence the other with incontrivertable facts.

      Smoking and evolution. No amount of real science would quieten the rump end of the denial lobbyists. So your "conclusion" is pretty easy to disprove.

      What turns me off from the whole AGW camp is their smug elitism

      Right. So your real problem is not science at all, it's politics. You don't like the people on the side of science, so you're happy take the side of those that deny science.

    7. Re:Relevant portion of one of the documents by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unfortunately both sides of this subject have gotten far too emotional to even consider the possibility that the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

      I don't know why anyone says crap like this.
      Why should we give organizations, known to be industry shills, equal weight with hard science when it comes to policy discussions?

      There are endless issues in contention, but few consider them to be so because the vast majority of society has already picked a side.
      Does anyone still think that the earth is flat? Or that the sun revolves around the earth? Or that Tobacco is good for you?
      The Heartland Institute is a conservative think tank for sale. The exist to try and legitimize points of view that are illegitimate.

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    8. Re:Relevant portion of one of the documents by microbox · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unfortunately both sides of this subject have gotten far too emotional to even consider the possibility that the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

      If you knew that people will (in general) make this assessment, then you could easily sway the public debate by taking a barking-mad-ultra-extreme view.

      This is precisely what has happened.

      You have played precisely into the hands of a very well documented cabal of media manipulators.

      For more information, read "Merchants of Doubt" and dig up referenced documents yourself.

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  2. Re:Pay no attention by DynamoJoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's pretty much what FOX News will say.
    Who am I kidding? FOX isn't going to run this at all.

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  3. Re:Pay no attention by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ha, you'll be lucky if *CNN* even runs it. They're way too busy showing important interviews with Whitney Houston's maid to fit such silly science news in.

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  4. Confirmation of what we already knew... by AngryDeuce · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We've all known these groups were anti-science. While seeing it spelled out on paper is amusing, and satisfying, I doubt that very many minds are going to be changed by this information. The people that populate and fund these groups ignore anything and everything that conflicts with their ideas as it is.

    These people are used to the extreme mental acrobatics necessary to deny the reality right in front of them. This will be written off as "liberal lies and smear tactics" pretty much immediately. It's not so much that they believe the crap these groups spew, a lot of people simply take the opposite stance of their political opponents regardless. Since climate change is a "liberal" thing, it's all a lie, because all "liberals" are liars.

    Still, like I said, it's nice to see what we've all already suspected confirmed in writing. These guys are in the same league as Big Tobacco with their bullshit.

  5. Best to Exercise Caution at This Point by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just to point out that the real incriminating evidence comes from the "2012 Climate Strategy" document that could be falsified. The other documents, like the budget, look pretty legit but the document you are citing is a page and a half. Wouldn't take much for me, someone who is ultra opposed to the Heartland Institute, to dream that up in a short afternoon with a six pack. I'm poking through the rest of them and am not finding the same sort of evidence. So it's possible that someone could have gotten their hands on a few legit documents (like the budget) and created this one and added it to the group. The metadata on the meeting agendas and such read "jbast" while the metadata on the climate strategy document reads "Joseph Bast." Entirely possible they were created two different ways but then why does the climate strategy document appear photoscanned? Is he photoscanning his own internal documents? Why? Or did someone want this to look legit, photoscan it and then write "Joseph Bast" as the author to make it look authentic?

    I'm just pleading for people to exercise caution. I think that the best approach for this is to put forth questions towards Dr. Wojick about his funding and move forward with caution. This is the internet. This is an area where I require a lot of verification before I believe something. The climate strategy document is awful convenient and as someone who's use to corporate bullshit, I can tell you my manager could easily produce a 15 page document on our team's "vision" and "mission statements" or "strategy." Mostly to prove he's worth something but also because that just seems to be how they roll. Two pages can be made up and I would imagine the real thing would have a lot more fluff and a lot more boring in it. I'm not saying this document is a fake, I'm just urging everyone to exercise caution before you look like a rube.

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    1. Re:Best to Exercise Caution at This Point by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As much as I love your response, I'm more disheartened by the fact that you seem to be the only advocating this position, and are sitting there without upmods.

      Leaks by definition are suspect. #1 problem is that leaks are always cherry-picked to show a particular problem. #2 problem is that leaks are always coming from an adversarial source that cannot be verified. #3 problem is that leaks can only be the starting point of an investigation, never the end point.

      As a result, this should be treated the same way as any other leak: with circumspection, and with a follow-up investigation.

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  6. Re:So... by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wait, NOW context matters? Where were you when your fellow "skeptics" (I put that term in quotes, because most of your fellows who call themselves that are lousy skeptics) were pulling out half-sentence quotes from emails to prove a vast and global conspiracy?

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  7. Re:So... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The difference being that ID has maybe two or three actual scientists who work in fields related to biology backing it, and the most important one of those, Michael Behe, doesn't even publish peer reviewed articles that deal with his ID claims. AGW on the other hand, is widely accepted by most researchers in climatology and related fields, the debate being more about the degree of influence of human activity or the speed at which changes will occur.

    In other words, it isn't the same thing at all.

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  8. Re:So... by BasilBrush · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The big argument about this being a "smoking gun" is one sentence, where someone typed "dissuading teachers from teaching science" instead of "dissuading teachers from teaching this lousy excuse for a science?"

    With just 5 minutes scanning the documents, I saw that. And also the fact that Fred Singer is paid $60,000 per annum to "regularly and publicly counter the alarmist AGW message." Now that's quite a bonus given that his employer is the University of Virginia. This isn't paying a professor to do research, this is paying a professor to do propaganda.

    This is the real smoking gun. There are a handful of scientists worldwide that deny the AGW consensus. The question is why? The assumption used to be that they were handsomely paid to do it. That is now fact.

  9. I dunno why so many are AGW by DontBlameCanada · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Climate science indicates that the world is warming. Whether the globe is warming to human activity or excess flatulation from aardvarks is immaterial.

    The best models indicate that the trend will continue. The best theoretic models predict that this will cause the polar ice caps to change: some cause it to melt, others to increase in size. Both outcomes are dire, massive increase in ocean levels resulting in New York becoming New Venice or a mile thick wall of ice rolling down over the Northern Hemisphere.

    I'm a software engineer. I don't pretend to understand climatology, however I do know how to manage risk. When the evidence is pointing to a potential disaster, be it projects running late, major requirements being added at the last minute or something akin to the end of the world as we know it, I don't waste time with the "finger of blame". I ask, how do we mitigate the issue?

    Since we don't know the root cause (or if there is even a single root cause), lets take action on all fronts and use this as an opportunity to make our lifestyles more sustainable and less impactful on the planet. Legislate lower vehicular emissions and mass transit use. Use incentives to get people to cycle or walk. Require companies to institute work-from-home plans. Slap taxes on pollution from industries to force them to reduce their emissions. Bar import of goods from countries that don't adhere to the global standard. Humans (and the companies they run) are adaptable, they'll find other work.

    If we're wrong and global warming isn't actually happening, at least we'll have some positive outcomes. If we're right, maybe we can prevent a total catastrophe. Inaction, garners little or no benefit if human-caused GW isn't actually occurring, but will be a direct contributor to disaster if it is.

    The Canadian fishing industry is a good example. Those folks who lost their jobs are hurting, but they are alive and there is some chance that the fishing will reopen. If GW is real, millions if not billions will die from starvation, be displaced into refugee camps as their towns are flooded or be impacted by regional conflicts as countries struggle to deal with the changing climate.

  10. Re:Confirmation? by accessbob · · Score: 4, Insightful
    From today's Guardian newspaper in the UK:

    "There is nothing I can tell you," Jim Lakely, Heartland's communications director, said in a telephone interview. "We are investigating what we have seen on the internet and we will have more to say in the morning." Lakely made no attempt to deny the veracity of information contained in the documents.

  11. Re:So... by dougmc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wait, NOW context matters? Where were you when your fellow "skeptics"

    Context always matters.

    If somebody tells you that context doesn't matter, then you should consider that that person probably is lying to you or at least isn't giving you the full truth. Whatever side they're on.

    It's also not fair to beat somebody up over what somebody else who may or may not have similar beliefs said. If one person who supports cause X says something, and somebody else who supports cause X says something else -- that's not evidence of hypocrisy. It's evidence of disagreement, and if you really do think that everybody who supports cause X agrees on everything, the problem is with you, not them.

    And yes, this is just one sentence. It could be exactly what they meant, or it could just be a miswording of things -- it certainly wouldn't be the first. One will have to look at context to figure out what they really meant.

  12. Re:So... by Moryath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    By revelation of these emails, Fred Singer's respect in peer reviewed literature has dropped to slightly lower than the asshole liars who used to publish "peer reviewed" studies backed by tobacco companies claiming that tobacco smoke isn't related to cancer...

  13. Leaked Heartland Documents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow, denier funding is peanuts. These documents contradict the constant claims of 'well funded climate denialism'. It shows they were never true, alarmists simply made them up.

    For years I never really knew if deniers were well funded or not. Now I know they were never well funded.

    Its the greenies who have been well funded all along.

    Thank you Desmogblog. Nice work

  14. Re:dont try to fucking rationalize this. by JWW · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ah, but if you follow along with the AGW crowd and implement all the regulations and laws they require to "solve" global warming (which incidentally are exactly what one side of the political spectrum wants, but are anathema to the other side) then you must be a patriot right?

    I've come to realize recently that I really agree with most of the arguments of AGW.

    But

    I think they are wildly optimistic at how effective their regulations will be at changing the situation and are oblivious to the fact that regulations with enough impact to make a change will have severely adverse consequences of the economy and personal freedom.

    Recently, it was posited on line that it was more likely that the free market and the decreasing supply of fossil fuels (leading to cost increases) will naturally spur on innovations that achieve the goals many environmentalists have, but that many laws proposed have serious negative and draconian impacts on the economy and the people.

    An opportune question is, if you're paying people to not emit CO2, then how do you effectively stop rampant corruption in the market from people who say that they'll generate less CO2, but just want you to pay them money to do nothing? Cap and Trade is a false market that is incapable of avoiding both fraud and regulatory capture.

    Someone needs to develop energy solutions that can replace fossil fuels that deliver the same amount of energy for nearly the same cost. That's where the bar is. If you can do that you'll end up rich and will save the planet, if you can't, taxing people for CO2 emissions isn't going to make it happen.

    And before anyone brings it up, yes, subsidies for the fossil fuel industry have to go to keep the marketplace fair and encourage development of new technology.

    Alternate energy technology is our only hope. I'm sorry, governmental worldwide restrictions and regulations are too dangerous and too prone to misuse.

  15. Re:So... by Moryath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    AGW has this.

    You've just been living under a rock and not paying attention to the overwhelming number of papers confirming it.

  16. Re:So... by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder if the Hearland is going to revise it's positionon the release of the so called "Climategate" emails.

    "The release of these documents creates an opportunity for reporters, academics, politicians, and others who relied on the IPCC to form their opinions about global warming to stop and reconsider their position. The experts they trusted and quoted in the past have been caught red-handed plotting to conceal data, hide temperature trends that contradict their predictions, and keep critics from appearing in peer-reviewed journals. This is new and real evidence that they should examine and then comment on publicly."

    I must have missed the link where they correct this and admit the entire Climategate "controversy" was proven false, and that no deliberate manipulation of data was actually found. I am sure they are still working on that release...

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  17. Re:So... by BasilBrush · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, its not fact at all. Yes, SOME may have been paid to be deniers, but some were simply questioning the"science" (see what I did there?) behind AGW, as they still do.

    Fred Singer is one of the top 3 denialists in the world. We now know he's paid $60,000 per annum to do propaganda. Not research. Propaganda.

    As for getting paid, wasn't all that long ago that a respected researcher could get drummed out of the academy for denying agw

    Be specific.

  18. Re:So... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some of the mitigation fits with other looming problems; namely the end of cheap oil. Sooner or later (some say sooner, some say later) we're going to run out of cheap oil, and it isn't just energy that's going to take the hit. The value of long-chain hydrocarbons to a multitude of industrial, fabrication and industrial processes cannot be minimized. People don't seem to understand that it isn't just the price of a gallon of gas that will skyrocket, a large portion of the things that make the industrialized world go round will suddenly become much more expensive.

    So, the potential mitigation of AGW and the solution to peak oil are the same. Stop using oil and other fossil fuels as fuels. The sooner the better. Invest in alternative energies, even if the costs are very high, because the costs when everyone finally agrees peak oil has been reached will be far worse in every possible way. There is every reason to begin to switch from a fossil fuel based economy, and no reason other than laziness and contempt for future generations to continue on the course we have chosen.

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  19. Re:So... by BasilBrush · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, it's bullshit.