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Foxconn's Other Dirty Secret: the World's Largest "Internship" Program

pigrabbitbear writes "In light of a series of reports that have emerged over the years, one of many dark stories of suicide now points at one of the lesser-known but more unsavory aspects of Foxconn's much-criticized labor practices: with the help of schools and government officials, the company runs a massive internship program built not on voluntary education but on 'compelled' factory work for teenage students. According to Ross Perlin, author of Intern Nation."

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  1. It's a great opportunity! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm looking forward to working my way up. Some of the old timers have made it all the way up to the roof they said.

  2. Internship anyone? by stanlyb · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, the next time you see an internship "coworker" in your company, do the math, and get the hell out of this sweat-shop.

  3. Keep working hard kids by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One day you might get paid!

    1. Re:Keep working hard kids by jdavidb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's better than starving on a farm. It's really quite sad. Too bad NOTHING is made in the USA / Canada anymore.

      Right. Then they could all starve on farms.

    2. Re:Keep working hard kids by Temposs · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, about 65% of what US consumers buy is made in the US. It is a myth that nothing is made here. It's mostly the clothing and consumer electronics and other cheap plastic shit which are so completely outsourced.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/business/worldbusiness/20iht-wbmake.1.20332814.html
      "Thirty years ago, U.S. producers made 80 percent of what the country consumed, according to the Manufacturers Alliance/MAPI, an industry trade group. Now it is about 65 percent."

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    3. Re:Keep working hard kids by jamstar7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Burgers, fries, and rap music.

      That's about it.

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  4. Re:Who cares by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's so shiny and Apple claims it really, really cool.

    You mean nokia, HTC, moto, sony, samsung, et al aren't Foxconn's customers?

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  5. Re:Forced internships? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is this a Bill Clinton program?

    Close, but no cigar.

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  6. Re:Import tariffs by Kenja · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wont happen, too much money from corporations being used to loby against it. China on the other hand has massive import tariffs for US goods. So companies more or less have to make stuff over there if they want to see in China.

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  7. One more for not mfg'ing in the Third World. by sethstorm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "In light of a series of reports that have emerged over the years, one of many dark stories of suicide now points at one of the lesser-known but more unsavory aspects of Foxconn's much-criticized labor practices: with the help of schools and government officials, the company runs a massive internship program built not on voluntary education but on 'compelled' factory work for teenage students. According to Ross Perlin, author of Intern Nation

    Which is also called slavery.

    This is yet another reason why we shouldnt be manufacturing in hellholes that will bend over backwards for business, but snap the backs of the people that work for them (should they ask for more than the company approved allotment of freedom).

    Perhaps US & EU manufacturing isn't a bad idea after all.

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  8. Re:oh the humanity! by Riceballsan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was with you right up till the iTard line... Foxconn and really china's labor practices in general are horrific, but it isn't apple to blame, it is the entirety of silicon valley, and possibly some blame can go on the U.S government and their lobyests for more or less doing nothing to discourage companies from off-shoring everything that is humanly possible to do.

  9. Re:oh the humanity! by leehwtsohg · · Score: 5, Informative

    You read this part, right?

    The Henan provincial government declared that 100,000 vocational and university students would be sent on three-month internships at Foxconn’s Shenzhen plants.

    At one vocational school in Zhengzhou, wrote Hu Yinan, students were informed of the government’s requirement after the summer semester had begun, and that “all those who refuse would have to drop out.”

  10. Re:oh the humanity! by dan828 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You seem to have missed this part: "This isn’t the venerated internship of the privileged college student, building valuable work and life skills with school credit and on-the-job training in place of pay – if such an internship even still exists. Historically, Foxconn’s low-wage internships involve essential factory labor by poor students, some of whose areas of study have nothing to do with electronics, and turn the “school credit” idea on its head. According to SACOM, vocational students, including those studying journalism, tourism and languages, have had practically no choice but to participate in such internships if they want to graduate from their schools. As temporary workers, they have little legal protection or recourse in the event of injury, over-work, or underpayment. And if they complain, they could jeopardize their diplomas."

  11. Re:oh the humanity! by EL_mal0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but it isn't apple to blame

    I disagree. Apple is contracting with Foxconn to churn out millions of iDevices. Regardless of what other Silicon Valley companies are doing, Apple is the one that is dealing with FoxConn. If they think that the workers deserve better treatment, they have it in their power to see that their demands are met; if they aren't, then they can contract with someone who will. "I'm just following the status quo," is a poor defense.

    I work for a company that deals with a lot of contractors. If a contractor isn't living up to our expectations (usually safety related), we find a new company to do that work. If they're not living up to our standards, they don't come on our site. Our safety numbers reflect this. (I think our bottom line benefits, too, but those numbers are a little trickier to pin down.)

    I think that a company's handling of contractors reflects their values. Apple (and I guess the rest of Silicon Valley) values money more than good working conditions.

  12. The UK are doing this too... by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 4, Informative

    They're sending people on "Jobseekers Allowance" into "internships" with the likes of Tesco (our own national Wal-Mart), on the promise of gaining useful job experience which will gain them employment. So they stack shelves for the duration of their internship, which gives them literally zero marketable experience (and indeed, probably damages their prospects - who wants to hire a shelf-stacker for anything less menial?)

    If they leave after a short "cooling off period", their benefits will be cut off, removing even the social safety net provided by the state. While Tesco have been recruiting unpaid interns on a voluntary basis for some years now, this recent trend is essentially state-sponsored slavery, and sounds eerily like the complicity of the Chinese local government in these Foxconn internships.

  13. Re:oh the humanity! by eulernet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You totally miss the educational/motivational part of such internships !

    Once the students have worked during 3 months in these factories, they'll learn the following values:
    1) if you fail your studies, that's where you'll work until the end of your life
    2) if you succeed in your studies, you'll probably want to change the future working conditions in China.
    3) if you excel in your studies, you'll be the next bosses, and these are good lessons on how to exploit people.

    These are valuable work and life skills !