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Sony Raises Price of Whitney Houston's Music 30 Minutes After Death

First time accepted submitter M.Nunez writes "Just 30 minutes after Whitney Houston died, Sony Music raised the price of Houston's greatest hits album, 'Ultimate Collection,' on iTunes and Amazon. Many technologists, including chairman of the NY Tech Meetup Andrew Rasiej, suggests that Sony should be boycotted for the move. In a tweet, Rasiej wrote, 'Geez Sony raised price on Whitney Houston's music 30 min after death was announced. #FAIL...We should boycott Sony.'"

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  1. Silly Sony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bunch of f-ing assholes.

  2. So? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tacky? Sure. Taking advantage of the situation? Yup. But they have a right to make money for their product.

    When an artists dies, many people rush right out to purchase that artist's work. It's as if people think they suddenly won't be able to get it again now that the artist is dead.

    1. Re:So? by sjames · · Score: 5, Interesting

      And the rest of the world has a right to say no to tacky corporations because there's quite enough tacky in the world already. I hope enough do say no that Sony gets the message loud and clear.

    2. Re:So? by blueg3 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ...those who are buying her music after her death are equally parasitic and not really deserving of any breaks.

      I fail to see how buying her music shortly after her death is parasitic. Not real fans, sure. Trend-following, sure. Parasitic? It sounds like you don't know what that word means.

  3. They meant well by Daetrin · · Score: 5, Funny

    It was actually a gesture of sympathy to Whitney Houston's dependents. Since copyright lasts forever now, long after the death of the artist, they raised the price of the music so her estate will receive larger royalty checks for awhile.

    ... i kid of course. We all know Sony and the other RIAA members never _actually_ pay out royalties to artists.

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    1. Re:They meant well by Genda · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Heck with that, what about John Foggerty, he was tricked by the record industry into selling his artistic soul while not yet out of puberty, After quitting CCR, couldn't write a note of music that didn't belong to the record industry for 20 years. AND finally after getting his life back after the 20 years and resumed writing kick ass music was sued in 1993 by Saul Zaentz, who owned CCR’s old label Fantasy Records. Zaentz asserted that Foggerty's new song "Old Man Down The Road" was plagiarized from "Run Through the Jungle." The recording industry sued John Fogertty for plagiarizing John Foggerty. Like raping him for 20 years wasn't enough, they wanted his new stuff too. The jury laughed Zaentz out of court after two hours (about as fast as a jury can make a decision without doing it right there in the jury box.) Foggerty demanded that Zaentz pay the $1.09 million court fees for this legal insult, and Zaentz told him to kiss his southern exposure. The law to that date had been heavily weighted on behalf of the plaintiff (corporations), such that if a plaintiff sues you and you lose you have to pay the attorney's fees, but if you win, they didn't have to pay yours. It took Foggerty over a year and appealing all the way to the Supreme Court to get a decision, that stated indeed if someone sues you, and they lose, they should pay your attorney's fees.

      You know, there should just be a legal requirement for truth in advertising that has a permanent message tattooed into the heads of the RIAA and its minions stating "I am here to screw you, everything I ever do is designed to rob you, use you, and leave you buggered and you can tell whenever I'm lying by the fact my mouth is moving." Of course we'd then be forced to tatoo politician with the message "I blow more CEOs by 9:00 AM than a high priced call-girl does in a year." and who's going to pass that law?

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  5. NOW we should boycott them? by GodBlessTexas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've been boycotting them for years, starting with their rootkits on CDs, which should have been charged as a criminal act.

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  6. Tasteless by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But logical. Fact is, I bet they earned more money from her death in these past few days than perhaps all last year alone. From a business perspective, you would be stupid not to raise the price. Bad PR yada yada yada. Give it a week and the bitching will stop and sales will increase. Money talks.

    Oh look. Shiny!

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    1. Re:Tasteless by Genda · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You know, I'm getting a little sick and tired of all these self obsessed, narcissistic, machiavellian, amoral masses of motile human excrement turning the world into an ontological toilet. We live in a free society, but this lowest common denominator crap is just becoming a simple excuse to be free of social responsibility, dignity, compassion or accountability for one's own actions. True freedom implies taking responsibility for a complex world of interactions where the price of your freedom is responsibility for the freedom of those around you. All take and no give, is the beginning of a free-for-all that ends in a stinking dung heap where a workable society once stood. Maybe its time to teach ethics to our children so perhaps they avoid the stupid mistakes we're making?

  7. We should boycott only now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This article is assuming we shouldn't have been boycotting Sony already.
    Silly people... why do they need so much time to learn?

    1. Re:We should boycott only now? by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 4, Informative

      This article is assuming we shouldn't have been boycotting Sony already.
      Silly people... why do they need so much time to learn?

      Sony are a bunch of vultures, what's there to learn? Everybody knows how vultures behave.

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    2. Re:We should boycott only now? by jc42 · · Score: 4, Informative

      article is assuming we shouldn't have been boycotting Sony already.

      Well, my first thought was that I can't boycott Sony over this, because I haven't bought anything of theirs since back when they were caught including rootkits on their CDs.

      I don't know if it's possible to do two boycotts against the same company simultaneously. If so, you would one do it?

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    3. Re:We should boycott only now? by Grishnakh · · Score: 5, Funny

      I find your post insulting. Vultures play an important part in the ecosystem. Sony plays no useful role in human society, and vultures have more class and ethics than Sony.

    4. Re:We should boycott only now? by viperidaenz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sure you can, my country employs concurrent sentencing for prisoners, same concept as concurrent boycotting...

    5. Re:We should boycott only now? by arth1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      At least vultures have the decency to wait till the body is cold.

      Um, no. Vultures have to act quickly before other scavengers arrive. Flying gives them an advantage in finding the bodies quicker, and exploiting that they're still warm and haven't alerted other scavengers by starting to smell yet. Then they often get a second chance after other scavengers are done.

      As for "decency", how do you know this wasn't an automated price setting based on number of purchases, in which case the ones to blame are the hyenas who rushed to the scene to buy the music of someone they never gave a fuck about when she lived?

    6. Re:We should boycott only now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I purchase all my music from Internet Piracy. They are good guys, the price is always stable.

    7. Re:We should boycott only now? by justforgetme · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As for "decency", how do you know this wasn't an automated price setting based on number of purchases, in which case the ones to blame are the hyenas who rushed to the scene to buy the music of someone they never gave a fuck about when she lived?

      Somehow making my point there, Sony might well be a tumor of humanity but still this practice is nothing anyone should be ashamed of. The people who liked her music had her music. They didn't need her to die in order to buy it. This is classical herd tax every other idiot has to pay because he wants to be "part of the moment".

      Why was this noise posted in the first place?

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    8. Re:We should boycott only now? by omnichad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You missed a LOT in economics. Economies of scale only matter when two companies are competing on the same product. Most things are priced based on what the market will bear. That is, prices are set as high as they can as long as people still buy it and the companies can maximize their profits. If dropping the price by 20% gives you 3x sales, then you do it. But if dropping the price just gives you less revenue, you'll not find many companies doing that. That is the basis of capitalism.

      Sony can create artificial scarcity whenever they want as the sole supplier. You see the same thing when the price of oil skyrockets due to oil-producing companies stockpiling and withholding product from the market.

  8. Okay, but there are bigger questions by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is there anyone here on Slashdot that's willing to admit they own a Whitney Houston song?

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    1. Re:Okay, but there are bigger questions by sgt+scrub · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is there anyone here on Slashdot that's willing to admit they were the ones that uploaded a torrent of all of Whitney Houston's songs 30 minutes after hearing about Sony raising prices?

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    2. Re:Okay, but there are bigger questions by strength_of_10_men · · Score: 4, Funny

      Personally, I celebrate the woman's entire catalog.

  9. Re:Price fixing... by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since when is it illegal to price your product to make as much of a profit as possible? (That's not what's generally meant by "price fixing," by the way.)

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  10. Yes, Sony is evil... by msauve · · Score: 5, Informative

    But, to be fair, this seems to have been a simple mistake by a single employee, and was quickly corrected. Linking through to the NYT article:

    "the changes - which were in effect only on the British version of iTunes, and were reversed Sunday evening...the price increase was the result of an error by a Sony employee in Britain, and that the company gave no orders for prices to be raised on Ms. Houston's music."

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  11. Re:Price fixing... by PReDiToR · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to other sites that ran this story ages ago the pricing was done by an algorithm that detected the increase in sales and raised the price to maximise on those sales.
    Plus it was stated that Apple only take 30% of iTunes revenue, SONY (and that other labels) set the prices.
    Who knows?

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  12. Re:Price fixing... by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 5, Informative

    Maximizing profit != price fixing. Also increasing the price of a product when the artist dies is also not illegal. So you know, price fixing means you collude with some other party to only buy or sell a product at a fixed price through controlling supply and demand. There was no price fixing in this case.

  13. Re:Price fixing... by J'raxis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If a company charges too much, they're guilty of "price gouging."
    If they charge too little, they're guilty of "dumping."
    If they charge the same as their competitors, they're guilty of "price fixing."

    Welcome to the "free market."

  14. TPB by J'raxis · · Score: 4, Funny

    Price still seems to be $0.00 on The Pirate Bay...

    1. Re:TPB by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Interesting

      IF you exclude the risk of being infected up the wazoo.

      From a bunch of MP3 files? How, pray tell, does that work?

      In a discussion about Sony, who DID work out a way to infect computers using an "audio CD" that actually included a root kit, that's pretty ironic.

  15. According to SONY it was a mistake by VinylRecords · · Score: 5, Insightful

    http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/14/sony-says-price-of-2-whitney-houston-albums-was-raised-by-mistake/

    According to the NYTimes the price raising was a mistake that only affected the UK Itunes store and nothing else. So of all the retailers and online shops only one was affected, Itunes, and only one region, the UK. If SONY wanted to capitalize on her death they likely would have raised prices across the board and just not the UK Itunes shop.

    This probably was an error. Someone assigned to managing SONY's UK Itunes account royally fucked up by changing the price. And now it is basically a PR disaster because even though it likely was an accident SONY looks absolutely retarded. Someone will lose his or her job over this for sure.

    Sadly I'm sure that some sneering fuck CEO from the RIAA or MAFIAA or SONY or whatever is sitting on his throne thinking of ways to capitalize on Whitney Houston's death without taking a major PR hit. They see her death as basically an opportunity for a lot of profit and a great time to line their pockets.

  16. Re:They all do this. by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Informative

    Tom Petty was going bankrupt even while he had hit records. The Beatles, Pink Floyd, The Eagles and King Crimson all have no lack of horror stories about the record and publishing companies consistently screwing them on royalties, flagrantly violating contracts and in going out of their way to prevent the artists and the lawyers from looking at actual sales.

    Whatever artists might be losing to illegal downloads, you can be sure that it is small potatoes to the rackateering that RIAA members have been up to for decades.

    If you want to talk about real evil, you should look at the record companies treated artists like Bo Diddley, which amounted to userious contracts and outright theft.

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  17. Re:Price fixing... by thisnamestoolong · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, but there was dickishness on an epic scale. What they did is clearly legal, but absurdly scummy. A boycott would be a very appropriate measure.

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  18. Sony is a Profit-Oriented Corporation by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sony is a profit-oriented corporation

    Their mission is to make profit

    Whitney Houston's death was a chance for Sony to make more money, so they took it

    I really can't blame Sony for doing such a thing, even when it's kind of bad taste

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    1. Re:Sony is a Profit-Oriented Corporation by jdgeorge · · Score: 5, Interesting

      One might suggest it's the people who wouldn't pay for Whitney Houston's music until after she died who were doing something "in bad taste". So much for supporting artists while they're sitll alive.

    2. Re:Sony is a Profit-Oriented Corporation by necro81 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I really can't blame Sony for doing such a thing, even when it's kind of bad taste

      While it may be the job of a company, as an entity, to make money, the company is made of individuals that still ought to be directed by some semblance of common decency. But group thinking can have a powerful effect on the weak-minded, so I suppose one could have seen this coming.

      So I'll still blame them, as individuals, for being cold-hearted assholes. I just won't be surprised that, collectively, they were just doing their job for the company.

    3. Re:Sony is a Profit-Oriented Corporation by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's probably some slave traders who need a good PR man. They're just profit oriented people, who can blame them for taking the opportunity to make more money when it presents itself.

      I certainly CAN blame them, because it IS in bad taste.They didn't have a gun at their heads, the soulless suits made a conscious decision to behave repulsively.

    4. Re:Sony is a Profit-Oriented Corporation by EdIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

      possibly her grandchildren down the road

      Not if copyright laws had any sanity in them.

    5. Re:Sony is a Profit-Oriented Corporation by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Shrewd businesses will take the occasional loss in order to foster a loyal customer base.

      While I can't argue with the above quote, I need to state that in the case of Sony hiking the price of Whitney Houston CD just after the news of Whitney Houston's death is this:

      When you buy a music CD --- that is, if anyone still buy music CDs nowadays, but that's another story altogether --- would you buy a CD just because it is produced by Sony?

      Loyalty doesn't play (and pay) in this case, my dear friend

      People don't buy music CD just because it was produced by so-and-so corporation, but they buy because they like the songs

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    6. Re:Sony is a Profit-Oriented Corporation by Phat_Tony · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You have this exactly reversed, and the world would be a better place if you and more people in busnesses would recognize this. In economic theory, if consumers care how they are treated and whether businesses behave ethically, they punish corporations for doing the wrong thing, creating the economic incentive for corporations to behave ethically. The idea that corporations are mandated by capitalism to behave unethically in the pursuit of profits, even if behaving unethically is ultimately bad for profits, comes up all the time here on Slashdot and never makes any sense.

      In this case this will be a public image nightmare for Sony. They spend millions and millions on advertising to try to improve their corporate image and make people think favorably of them, and this just cost them a ludicrous amount. They were already going to make a killing off Whitney Houston's death, with no downside. Now in an attempt to bump up short term cash-flow by some amount irrelevant to their bottom line, they are shooting themselves in the foot. They already have an image problem, but more people are going to understand this than a rootkit. If internal management is any goods, heads will roll over this decision, and if it isn't, it's one more sign Sony is doomed.

      If you were a merciless investor, would seeing this news item make you think Sony stock has a bright future? If not, then it means it's bad for them and a mistake, that behaving unethically is moving them towards being a defunct corporation, not securing their economic future. That would be my bet.

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    7. Re:Sony is a Profit-Oriented Corporation by Wattos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One might suggest it's the people who wouldn't pay for Whitney Houston's music until after she died who were doing something "in bad taste". So much for supporting artists while they're sitll alive.

      Not really no. People do not buy her music because she died. People buy her music now because her death has been given a lot of media attention (as it usually is with deaths of celebrities) and :

      a) some people are too young to have known this music and just discover it now
      b) some people have somply forgotten how good her music was

      This is really a turd move from a turd of a company

    8. Re:Sony is a Profit-Oriented Corporation by GreatBunzinni · · Score: 5, Insightful

      IF you are going to fight, don't use terms like:
      " disney copyright"
      "0.000001% of the profites showing up in the checkbook"

      you sound like a loon, and won't be taken seriously. You can say it shouldn't matter, and you would be correct.But it DOES matter. And changing that is a different fight.

      Johann Lau does not "sound like a loon", nor is he wrong. USA's Copyright Term Extension Act is known as Mickey Mouse Protection Act,for being notoriously pushed by Disney, whose main purpose was to avoid Disney's earlier work to go into public domain. And if you are trying to claim that Johann Lau is a loon for stating that fact then, before that, you must accuse Lawrence Lessig of being also a loon, and a bigger loon as wel, as he publicly made that very same assertion regarding Disney's copyright.

      And regarding the percentage of profits that actually go to the artist, music industry insiders such as Steve Albini already already explained quite well how the music industry actually works.

      So, you are either a Sony shill, trying to astroturf some damage control here on slashdot, or you are incredibly out of touch with reality, factually wrong on multiple accounts and simply an idiot.

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  19. Re:Price fixing... by Fned · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "supply and demand" isn't a very useful descriptive tool when the supply is infinite and valueless. More like, "access control and demand"...

  20. Re:If you want to support an artist ... by Capt.+Skinny · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who's benefiting?

    Presumably, the person buying the album. I didn't buy a sandwich today to support the restaurant owner, I bought it because I was hungry and thought it would taste good.

  21. Boycott? Hell, rob em' blind! by TiggertheMad · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't know if it's possible to do two boycotts against the same company simultaneously. If so, you would one do it?

    I worked this out: First go fire up torrents of all the Sony artists you can find and download every Sony .mp3 on the net. Then, once you are done, go delete all the .mp3s and do the whole thing again. There you have just "Stolen" their entire catalog twice. That will show the corporate bastards that the Intarweb is not to be trifled with!

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