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Obama Pushes For Cheaper Pennies

Hugh Pickens writes "Time Magazine reports that hidden deep inside in the White House's $3.8 trillion, 2,000-page budget that was sent to Congress this week is a proposal to make pennies and nickels cheaper to produce. Why? Because it currently costs the federal government 2.4 cents to make a penny and 11.2 cents for every nickel. If passed, the budget would allow the Treasury Department to 'change the composition of coins to more cost-effective materials' resulting in changes that could save more than $100 million a year. Since 1982, our copper-looking pennies have been merely coppery. In the 1970s, the price of copper soared, so President Nixon proposed changing the penny's composition to a cheaper aluminum. Today, only 2.5% of a penny is copper (which makes up the coin's coating) while 97.5% is zinc. The mint did make steel pennies for one year — in 1943 — when copper was needed for the war effort and steel might be a cheaper alternative this time. What about the bill introduced in 2006 that the US abandon pennies altogether.? At the time, fifty-five percent of respondents considered the penny useful compared to 43 percent who agreed it should be eliminated. More telling, 76 percent of respondents said they would pick up a penny if they saw it on the ground."

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  1. You can't eliminate them by netwarerip · · Score: 5, Funny

    The vast majority if store clerks wouldn't be able to round up or down to the nearest nickel.

    1. Re:You can't eliminate them by DemoLiter3 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Guys, listen, I have an idea! You won't believe it, guys! Guys?
      So, like, what if we just make coins with a value of $0.99? This way, you can directly pay $x.99-type prices and won't need pennies at all!

    2. Re:You can't eliminate them by dragonsomnolent · · Score: 4, Funny

      True story: There was a Schnuck's (St. Louis area wide grocery store) that was build in such a way that one part of the store was in the city of St. Louis, and the other part was in the county. St. Louis city has it's own sales tax on top of the state's. I felt very sorry for those accounting people...

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    3. Re:You can't eliminate them by Bengie · · Score: 4, Funny

      Buy this car for under $14k! $13,999.99

      See, sales people do understand very basic Boolean logic.

      They actually wanted to do $13,999.99999999999~, but someone told them it was equal to $14k, so they could no longer claim it was less than. Their heads exploded.

    4. Re:You can't eliminate them by bennomatic · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or, as we say in America, "forty". You Brits and your crazy use of the letter "u"! "Colour" indeed!

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    5. Re:You can't eliminate them by darkmeridian · · Score: 5, Funny

      From Married ... With Children:

      Marcy: Steve, don't tell them about your insane quest to create the 99 cent coin.
      Steve: Al, I invented the 99 cent coin. Have you ever noticed how things cost $7.99? $14.99? $99.99? My coin will eliminate the messy change that only catches the attention of obnoxious beggars who hassle you on the way to your Mercedes. What do you think of it, Al?
      Al: What about tax?

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    6. Re:You can't eliminate them by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sorry buddy, you lost this argument 230 years ago. America would not be the #1 world power without the strong federal government. That's why we have the Constitution instead of the Articles of Confederation.

      Two things: he lost the argument 150 years ago, when the Civil War was fought.

      And we didn't actually create a strong Federal government in order to become the #1 world power. We created it because the Articles of Confederation were essentially non-functional.

      Note that the Constitution creates a severely limited form of Federal government, basically preventing the individual States from acting like they were separate countries - the (nearly) all-powerful Federal government of today was never dreamed of by the Founders (well, maybe Hamilton was hoping we'd go that way - he thought we should have a King)....

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    7. Re:You can't eliminate them by SMoynihan · · Score: 5, Funny

      Exactly!

      "One, two, three, for..."

    8. Re:You can't eliminate them by bennomatic · · Score: 3, Funny

      Apparently, at least some of you Brits make up for your extraneous U's with a profound lack of humour.

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  2. 100 to 1 by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2, Funny

    Drop the minimum wage to 8 cents an hour and divide all current cash value by 100.

    Think of it: 1c hamburgers, lunch for a dime and leave a 2c tip, and your average American home for $1000.

    Also, any transaction dealing with a $100 bill or higher will have to be reported....

  3. Fatal flaw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    If it costs 2 pennies to make 1 penny then you have destroyed a penny by making a penny.

  4. Re:what's wrong with rounding by JoeMerchant · · Score: 4, Funny

    In most Euro-countries, prices are rounded to the nearest 5-cent number, 1- and 2-cent coins are quite rare. Why even bother producing coins that are worth more as a material than as a coin?

    In most Euro-countries, people don't consider mathematical ability a sign of social awkwardness, as opposed to the U.S....

  5. How about 100 pennies = 1 dollar? by scorp1us · · Score: 1, Funny

    True it's not a gold standard, but it is some kind of standard that locks the dollar into some real value, rather than have some bureaucrats in Washington be able to devalue the dollar for their financial agendas.

    Its rather embarrassing when you think about it.

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  6. Oh Slashdot, you disappointed me! by dmbasso · · Score: 3, Funny

    I came here only for the penis jokes, but none so far!

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  7. Re:Monetary insanity by Muad'Dave · · Score: 3, Funny

    What do you think a $5 bill is worth?

    About 12.44 BTU theoretical, 4 BTU recoverable.

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  8. I-131 The perfect coin by An+dochasac · · Score: 3, Funny
    Aluminum, plastic and paper pennies might sound like good ideas now, but all are based on resources which are likely to become more valuable in time. What we need is a penny made out of Nuclear waste, specifically the Iodine-131 isotope. Here's why:
    • It quite literally 'burns a hole in your pocket' and so would stimulate spending.
    • It would discourage hoarding (you don't want to keep gamma emitters under your mattress)
    • It would encourage billionaires to quickly spread their wealth amongst the peons.
    • Since I-131 has an 8 day half-life, the Fed can keep printing it and giving it to banks and billionaires but by time it trickles down to you or me it will have disappeared!

    It is the perfect coin for the economy we've been working towards! Come on Obama, make it so!

    P.S. The U.S. and E.U. are in a head to head battle for who can print money the fastest, but I predict that China will win this race to the bottom. I have 2 beautifully designed paper Yuan notes, each worth 0.2 cents. Beat that Mr. Bernanke!