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Small, Modular Nuclear Reactors — the Future of Energy?

cylonlover writes "This year is a historic one for nuclear power, with the first reactors winning U.S. government approval for construction since 1978. Some have seen the green lighting of two Westinghouse AP1000 reactors to be built in Georgia as the start of a revival of nuclear power in the West, but this may be a false dawn because of the problems besetting conventional reactors. It may be that when a new boom in nuclear power comes, it won't be led by giant gigawatt installations, but by batteries of small modular reactors (SMRs) with very different principles from those of previous generations. However, while it's a technology of great diversity and potential, many obstacles stand in its path. This article takes an in-depth look at the many forms of SMRs, their advantages, and the challenges they must overcome."

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  1. Distributed Grid by sanosuke001 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Distributed power is how our grid should be set up. Also, being self-contained, these would allow us to put them closer to the actual users and cut transmission losses and costs. Why the hell aren't we doing it yet?

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    1. Re:Distributed Grid by everett · · Score: 5, Insightful

      nimby

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    2. Re:Distributed Grid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can put them in my backyard! I totally don't mind if it means I can get cheap power in exchange!!!

    3. Re:Distributed Grid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yea, totally. I mean, I can't think of one single reason why there isn't a small nuclear reactor on every block in the country. Everyone wants to live next to a nuclear reactor, right? I assume that's the reason the government hasn't approved construction of one in 34 years.

    4. Re:Distributed Grid by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because we as Americans do not understand what a trade off means.

      We want clean energy but we don't want power facilities near our homes. Nuclear is clean however it needs to be done right and there are too many complaining about the scary Nuclear and are unfortunally happy when they see a problem with a facility because it shows they are right.
      Except a more responsible approach would be to support nuclear energy understand that it will be a long term investment and make sure it is done right and any mistakes will need to be fixed the right way before damage comes along, can solve many of our big pressing problems and only create smaller manageable problems.

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    5. Re:Distributed Grid by sycodon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, I don't think NIMBY is a factor simply because no one has yet to produce such a device, propose to install it somewhere, and then generate the hypothetical NIBY reaction.

      These devices face an intrenched anti-nuclear lobby that trades off of ignorance and fear. In other words, the nuke Haters. If ever such a device was ready to be deployed, the nuke Haters would be at every hearing, file endless lawsuits and finally, pull some kind of OWS garbage to delay the actual deployment.

      In my opinion, any person who has been adequately informed of the device's safety measures and economic benefits would not be bothered by having one installed at their local power plant.

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    6. Re:Distributed Grid by lightknight · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Fear, justified or not, was the hold-up. The original light-water reactors have some...issues. To run one, you need qualified staff (supposedly Three-Mile was hiring high-school students (or someone equally unqualified) to run their plant, at the time of the incident, I imagine as a cost-cutting measure), and you need to use quality building materials (do not scrimp, and I'd favor capital punishment for any contractor who is caught using lower-grade materials while pocketing the difference; you probably want some more than low-grade cement / concrete for the outer shell, and a substitution here by less scrupulous people is a serious concern). As for the components here, Chernobyl suffered from, among other things, an untested emergency cooling system component (I believe it was a turbine or pump) which failed at a critical moment (it was shipped, apparently without adequate testing, so quickly, so that the staff at the manufacturing plant could declare a 'Worker's Victory' and claim their Christmas bonuses).

      As for these micro-reactors, they are potentially a good idea. Uranium is relatively inexpensive these days, and the primary target for an environmentally sound operation is the careful disposal of the waste. However, before they are put into use, I'd advocate bringing up the general population to some level of actual understanding regarding nuclear fission reactions -> there is a lot if disinformation out there regarding nuclear fission, and it's treated as magic by the populace. The only cure for ignorance, which breeds fear, is information. Show them how hard it is for something to undergo an uncontrolled nuclear fission reaction, show them how the danger of fallout and radioactivity is inversely related to time. Explain to them what a rem is, and how the sun gives you more radiation in a day than most people will experience, with the exception of medical imaging devices and flying on high-altitude airplanes, throughout their lives. And above all, no lies. No propaganda. Just the truth, detailing what we do know, what we do not know, and where any potential problems may be.

         

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  2. Nuclear power is corporate welfare by Medievalist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There are no economically viable nuclear plants without heavy taxpayer subsidies.

    The original post implies that nuclear plants have been turned down for decades and now suddenly they aren't. This is bullshit.

    Corporations are lining up for the gravy train of taxpayer dollars provided by the Cheney energy policy of 2005. Per-kilowatt subsidies, construction subsidies, reauthorization and extension of the Price-Anderson Act (which makes taxpayers liable for disasters), all negotiated in secret because taxpayers don't want their money spent that way.

    Nuclear power is no different than TARP. It's corrupt politicians giving away taxpayer money to their rich cronies. People don't want it, don't need it, and it's not competitive with any other source of power economically.

  3. My future of energy is different by aglider · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Use less energy and use it more efficiently.
    Which unluckily is not what energy producers want.

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  4. Re:Don't think so by dietdew7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The good old days when we used to plow our fields with pointy sticks.

  5. Bad idea by PPH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Too many little nukes around to regulate.

    One of the selling point of electric cars is that they concentrate their pollution at a few large point sources. Sure, today they belch out coal byproducts. But as technology advances, we can monitor and retrofit a few large plants more quickly than having to hunt down the owner of every old beater car. These modular nukes are the logical equivalent of a fleet of cars. Eventually, they'll descend into beaterhood.

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  6. Re:Don't think so by dkleinsc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So you know, the plow of the 18th century was not just a pointy stick, it was actually pretty good at its job, which was why it was used so widely. The biggest difference between that plow and the ones used today is that we now have a tractor in front pulling it instead of oxen or horses.

    The farmers of yore might not have had the same understanding of agriculture as us modern folk, but they weren't stupid, and they would have abandoned tools that didn't help them grow more crop.

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  7. Re:Nickel-Iron batteries are available again by tp1024 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think you underestimate the size of the storage problem. The main problem with wind and solar are seasonal variations - even though we currently can't even manage to cope with the short-term ones. You will need at least 2 months of storage to deal with the time around winter when demand is largest and supply is smallest. (That's without some extra reserves to deal with unforeseen events.) For Germany that's 100TWh. For short-term variations about 2 days or so could be sufficient, about 3-4 TWh. Pumped storage in Germany has a capacity of about 0.04 TWh. (Of course, 40GWh sound a lot more impressive, but really isn't.)

    The elephant in the room is of course that the majority of energy use is not electricity, but oil and gas used for transport, process heat and heating, only some of those can be significantly reduced through the use of electricity. (Process heat, for example, is too hot for effective use of heat pumps. 1kWh of heat takes 1kWh of electricity there. For space heaters, you may get 4kWh of heat for 1kWh of electricity.) About 30% of the primary energy (30% of about 15000 PJ) in Germany is converted into electricity - with some 40% efficiency. Thus, current electricity generation (600TWh per year, or 2200PJ or 70 GW) is just a small fraction of total energy use (15000PJ per year or 480 GW). Electricty supply would need to at least double, more likely triple, to replace oil and gas. Which is a pretty optimistic assessment - you're doing with perhaps 5000PJ per year (160GW) of electricity what used to take 15000PJ (480GW) of energy.

    As for storage? Well, batteries are not enough for long term storage, but short term, they are a very efficient and very expensive alternative. The bulk will inevitably need to be some derivative of hydrogen, probably methane (for much easier storage). The problem with that is that efficiency is quite bad - some 33% round-trip. (Not accounting for energy used in liquification or pressurization for storage. But 33% is a reasonable estimate if you take probable technological improvements into account. This is limited by turbine efficiency, which is actually better than fuel cells for large, multiple stage, plants.) So, you will need to roughly double the figure of electricity generated by wind or solar, if you want to know what you will get out. So, you're now talking about generating on the order of 8000PJ per year (250GW) with wind and solar. (Biofuel and hydro is not scalable, tidal quickly gets huge, but so does wind and solar at this kind of scale.)

    On average, Germany is now producing 2.75 GW of solar (with 27GW installed capacity) and 4.5GW of wind power (also 27GW installed capacity - but without current downtimes due to electricity net congestion, it could be over 6GW). So, you would need roughly a 25 fold increase wind and solar, as the only scalable renewables, provide renewable energy to Germany. And that is huge all by itself.

  8. Re:Distributed Grid - Walk Away Safe? by icebike · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You're describing previous generations of reactors. The new ones are more like a giant battery. They are sealed, self contained, and walk-away safe.

    Walk Away safe is a pretty big claim for something that has never actually been built yet. (And no, Navy shipboard reactors don't count. Operation of those reactors is top secret, and they are way too small.)

    At some level, the concept of "walk away safe" is just another example of The Arrogance of Engineers. There are just too many things assumed.

    The real problem with this design is that it might actually be built in reasonably large numbers, installed in places that are less well planned, operated by your average mid-sized power company, guarded by Mall Cops, maintained by low-bidders, and inspected by bribe takers.

    In short, this type of reactor has the ability to become far too ubiquitous before any of the inevitable problems are discovered after 10 years of operation.

    One could say that they may be too successful, too quickly.

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