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John Nash's Declassified 1955 Letter To the NSA

An anonymous reader writes "In 1955, John Nash sent an amazing letter (PDF) to the NSA in order to support an encryption design that he suggested. In it, he anticipates computational complexity theory as well as modern cryptography. He also proposes that the security of encryption can be based on computational hardness and makes the distinction between polynomial time and exponential time: 'So a logical way to classify enciphering processes is by the way in which the computation length for the computation of the key increases with increasing length of the key. This is at best exponential and at worst probably at most a relatively small power of r, ar^2 or ar^3, as in substitution ciphers.'"

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  1. Some Links to the NSA site by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Interesting
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  2. Re:This is impossible by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 3, Funny

    So you mean that he was probably tired that day and he wanted to send the letter to the NaSA instead?

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  3. Listening to People outside the Norm by BoRegardless · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think overtly creative people get to be that way partly because they are not "normal". It is their gift or mindset to be able to see, conjecture and analyze what others can not fathom.

    Yet we tend to shy away from anyone who is "not normal". I am glad Mr. Nash has been able to proceed in his career in spite of his problems. I hope his story gives others with problems some inspiration.

    1. Re:Listening to People outside the Norm by rssrss · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Mr. Nash's creativity and his illness were two different things. There are many people with the same illness that he had, which appeared to be a form of schizophrenia, who have no creative accomplishments, just delusions, illness, and death.

      Mr. Nash spent many years in the grip of delusions and manias. He was, after a very long time able to achieve the ability to live with his family, interact with his community, and work on Mathematics.

      That he was able to do so speaks well of both his family and his community. Most people with his illness do not. They wind up institutionalized, or, what is worse, homeless, uncared for, subject to substance abuse and other illnesses, and premature death.

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    2. Re:Listening to People outside the Norm by Xtifr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You forgot: self-diagnosed "Aspie" with an unearned superiority complex.

      Ironically, in my experience, the majority of self-diagnosed "Aspies" seem to be perfectly normal people who chose to focus on academics to the exclusion of social skills because they didn't have what it takes to master both. Nevertheless, geeks with social skills are, in my experience, the vast majority. For every John Nash, there are dozens of Richard Feynmans. Asocial geeks tend not to realize this because, well, because they don't get out much. (And because they watch too many Hollywood movies.) :)

    3. Re:Listening to People outside the Norm by stevedog · · Score: 3, Informative

      You are right in the sense he should not be "congratulated" for his illness. However, I would take caution before labeling the creativity and the illness as "true and true, but unrelated." By modern criteria, he very well may have had bipolar disorder with psychotic features (he did get diagnosed with schizophrenia, but back then so did everyone else who "acted crazy" -- delusions and psychosis fairly commonly accompany severe bipolar as we diagnose it nowadays). If so, then actually his periods of brilliance would have actually been his (already highly talented) brain building up and progressively overactivating to generate an immense sense of clarity and focus (the common description of the initial stages of mania) prior to devolving into the disorganization, delusions, and often bizarre behaviors of full mania (with or without psychosis, depending on the person).

      In fact, this is exactly what makes bipolar so hard to treat -- it is basically like a drug, in that the "highs" can result in great success (and, even independent of the happiness about that success, it causes euphoria as well), but the destruction that occurs as a result of the behavior during those highs (as well as the severely depressed lows that often follow) generally end up tearing a person's world apart. Even so, the person often cannot see this and will completely refuse treatment, because (like a drug) they are basically addicted to their condition, and with the delusions of grandeur that often accompany the disorder further exaggerating (in their own mind) those periods of success... who wouldn't be?

      That's why it might be worthwhile to take pause before laughing people like Charlie Sheen off the stage. 10 days after John Nash wrote this letter, once his brain had accelerated just a little bit further and beyond the boundaries of organized thought, Nash may very well have been just as "bi-winning," and merely had it manifest in a slightly different way.

  4. Hand writing by CurryCamel · · Score: 4, Funny

    Reading Nash's letters makes me realize how much better presentation medium powerpoint is.
    And also how much junk is made to sound nice, just with a nice presentation.

  5. (Read all of it) Nash gets form letter rejection by measure · · Score: 5, Funny

    After Nash invents modern cryptography, explains it quite eloquently in a few pages of hand written notes, and designs and builds an electronic machine that automatically encrypts / decrypts the messages. He is then sent form letter rejection by the government: "It has been found that cryptographic principles involved in your system, although ingenous, do not meet the necessary requirements for official application."

  6. Re:(Read all of it) Nash gets form letter rejectio by Hentes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They hint that they have found a weakness in it, but for some reason they don't disclose it. It might be the case that the NSA wanted to keep it secret, just like the British did.

  7. Re:This is impossible by iggymanz · · Score: 3, Informative

    maybe that 1950s IC post was by another anti-space nutter AC, you all look alike you know.

    Those early mainframes didn't use integrated circuits, it took the space program's Apollo Guidance System (1963 - ) to push that.

    Amusing you brought up SAGE, as ICBM are of course part of and intertwined with the story of the space age and space age technology. In fact, I'd say it was downright stupid of your and hurts your arguments terribly.

    We all reap the many benefits of the space program, GPS and weather and geoscience and comm satellites to name a few.

  8. Re:(Read all of it) Nash gets form letter rejectio by interval1066 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or, they simply wanted to butter him up and keep him quiet because the presiding industrial defence complex entities at the time (Westinghouse, GE, Hughes, Bell Telephone (or later, AT&T), etc.) already had inferior, but completed cryptographic solutions ready to go. How many times has the Fed been handed elegant solutions to problems only to pass them by for fixes given to them by men from the old boy's network?

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  9. Re:This is impossible by Eric+S.+Smith · · Score: 3, Informative

    Amusing you brought up SAGE, as ICBM are of course part of and intertwined with the story of the space age and space age technology. In fact, I'd say it was downright stupid of your and hurts your arguments terribly.

    Well trolled! For those playing along at home, SAGE was for spotting and intercepting bombers.

  10. Communication as a form of intelligence by johnwbyrd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As I read the correspondence I tried to put myself in the position of Dr. Campaigne, and tried to figure out whether what Nash was saying made any sense. I confess that Nash's presentational style made me feel as though I was reading what Nash himself referred to as "a crank or circle-squarer". The core of Nash's invention is a squiggly, messy node graph of colored lines demonstrating a manually obfuscated binary function. But the importance of his communication is the importance of P vs. NP functions, which Nash communicated very very obliquely. Nash's Unabomber handwritten font didn't help him either.

    I feel bad that I would have made the same mistake that Campaigne did. But I think nearly anyone would have.

  11. Re:(Read all of it) Nash gets form letter rejectio by FrootLoops · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually I was surprised by how much interest the NSA showed. Here was a young (~27) assistant professor of math writing to the government largely out of the blue. Nash himself was relatively insecure in his reputation, at least to this audience:

    "I hope my handwriting, etc. do not give the impression I am just a crank or circle-squarer. My position here is Assist. Prof. of math. My best known work is in game theory (reprint sent separately)."

    Even though he's insecure, he still chose to hand-write his letters sloppily with relatively poor penmanship and words crossed out. Still, the NSA dutifully corresponded with him and analyzed his machine, concluding

    "[it] has many of the desirable features of a good auto-key system; but it affords only limited security, and requires a comparatively large amount of equipment. The principle would not be used alone in its present form and suitable modification or extension is considered unlikely, unless it could be used in conjunction with other good auto-key principles."

    The letters certainly don't give me the impression of someone who is serious about making a working cypher machine. He's pretty clearly just dabbling in cryptography because it's a nice mental game for him to play. That doesn't necessarily mean his ideas should be ignored, and (somewhat surprisingly) the NSA didn't ignore them.

  12. Feedback shift register by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative

    What Nash seems to be describing is a feedback shift register. This has potential as a cryptosystem, but isn't a very good one. As the NSA pointed out, it "affords only limited security".

    When Nash wrote this, Friedman had already developed the theory that allowed general cryptanalysis of rotor-type machines. But that was still highly classified. Friedman, of course, was responsible for breaking the Japanese "Purple" cypher, plus many others. Before Friedman, cryptanalysis was about guessing. After Friedman, it was about number crunching.

    Friedman was the head cryptanalyst at NSA at the time. Within NSA, it would have been known that a linear feedback shift register was a weak key generator. So this idea was, properly, rejected. At least NSA looked at it. Friedman's hard line on that subject was "No new encryption system is worth looking at unless it comes from someone who has already broken a very hard one."

    The fact that a problem is NP-hard isn't enough to make it a good key generator. The Merkle-Hellman knapsack cryptosystem, the first public-key cryptosystem published, is based on an NP-hard problem. But, like many NP-hard problems, it's only NP-hard in the worst case. The average case is only P-hard. (Linear programming problems, and problems which can be converted to a linear programming problem, are like that.) So that public-key system was cracked.

    We still don't have cryptosystems which are provably NP-hard for all cases. Factoring and elliptic curves are as good as it gets, and there's still the possibility that a breakthrough could make factoring easy.