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Push Email Suspended On iPhones In Germany
New submitter elashish14 tips this news, snipped from Ars Technica: "Apple has been forced to disable push e-mail delivery for iCloud and MobileMe users in Germany this week. The move is thanks to a recent injunction awarded to Motorola as part of the ongoing patent dispute between the two smartphone makers.... The patent at issue relates to older pager designs, but Motorola was able to convince a German court that it applied to Apple's implementation of push e-mail that syncs across devices via iCloud. The injunction went into effect on Thursday of this week, requiring Apple to disable push e-mail syncing in Germany."
Yet another way the consumer is being raped by this senseless patent war. Call a truce you loopy money hungry bastards..
Excuse the Unicode crap in my posts. That's an apostrophe, and slashdot is busted.
Motorola better hope their old pagers didn't have any rounded corners, or they'll get retroactively sued for predicting future designs.
Slashdot social media options: AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, Jabber and Mobile Text. Why no MySpace?
the patent office and companies to focus on really new things, not just playing expensive games with patents.
Sent as ripples into the electromagnetic field. No single photon has been harmed in the process.
invalidating the patent is not apples only hope.
they could, heaven forbid, licence the patent for actual money.
No, Germany stopped doing that about 67 years ago.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
the new US District Court of Eastern Texas.
After observing the antics of Apple, Samsung, and Motorola in the past year, in particular, how could anyone wind up still believing that patents and copyrights promote creation or indeed help anyone but the assignees? When does the true reform begin?
Soon companies will advertise their products with their patent folios, not their technology. As in:
"We do NOT have the best technology, but we have the BEST patents! So buy our phones, because if you buy from a competitor, we will shutdown their features, because we own the patents."
"And we own the Patent Office and the Courts."
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
It was a huge matter of argument when it got written into the US Constitution. Allowing the copyright clause seemed a strategic compromise at the time, but seems now to be a fatal flaw as it has enabled a highly profitable industry determined to use the profits they've garnered thereby to destroy the rest of that document.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
Since the vested interests involved have lobbyists to "educate" our lawmakers and potential lawmakers, pretty much never.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
Apple started making iPhone in 2007, then they tried to mess with a company that was making portable phones for over 30 years prior and were the main developers for the backbone all all the cellphone technology. Apple thought they were hot stuff and decided to kick a sleeping dog, they just didn't realize that dog was bigger than them in the cellphone business and would bite them in the ass for messing with them. Apple has a lot of good patents and a lot of bull crap ones, ie round corners on a rectangle. This one is an actual technology and doesn't apply to the 3G standards of FRAND so they are pretty much screwed on it. They asked for it though. Motorola left Apple alone, but Apple had to try to sue Motorola and every other Android phone maker. I guess their lawyers didn't think twice about suing the company that hold nearly every patent that involves the backbone of cellphone technology.
Just because you are wrong and I called you out on it doesn't mean I am a Troll.
If I have a stick its just a stick, Currently I can patent throwing the stick, balancing the stick on my nose, throwing the stick, but it's still a stick. If I add some string to make it so I can throw it farther its now an enhanced stick worthy of a patent. Hardware is the key and should be the deciding factor when accepting a patent.
It's all the Greeks' fault these days.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Unless you're Greek. Then it's the Germans fault again.
All the companies are just interested in making Apple sit down and shut the fuck up. None of this counter-lawsuit stuff started until Apple started to try and shut everyone else down. The other companies that made cellphones had occasional hissing matches with each other, as companies seem to like to do, but it would get resolved since they realized it was in their best interests. While they'd all like to be the one and only phone provider in the world, they know that isn't going to happen so they'll settle for cross licensing and so on.
Then in comes Apple who decides they can just sue everyone else out of existence. They think they should be the only company other than maybe RIM who is allowed to produce a smartphone or tablet. No surprise it has raised the ire of all the other companies and they are now striking back.
They don't want money, they want Apple to stop suing. I'm not sure Apple will though, I think they are real scared. Apple's rise to their current mega corp status has all been about getting in to markets that nobody else is really having any success in and making it cool. This lets them sell their stuff with a massive profit margin due to no competition.
They did it with MP3 players first. They weren't the first company to make one, but they made them cool, made them a fashion accessory. Now everyone had to have one, but not just any one, an iPod. That has waned quite a bit these days, but no problem, because then they brought smartphones to consumers. Blackberry's were always business toys. The US government loves the things but they didn't sell so well on the consumer market. The iPhone made smartphones a thing to have and they did well there. Then of course they made tablets the new toy to have. Most people have no idea why they want one, but they want one.
However they don't seem to have a "what's next" and unlike the MP3 player situation, people are moving in on phones and tablets quicker than they are ready for. Android went from more or less an experiment to an extremely competent competitor in just a few years and has been selling really well. They see their market slipping, and have nowhere else to go.
So they are going sue happy, to try and keep everyone else out. If they can't, they risk losing their place of prominence, and no company wants that.
As soon as Apple agrees to a patent swap agreement with Google. Yes, actual invention patents, for rounded-rectangle-in-black patents, but Google is only interested in competing.
Prediction for end of Universe #42: Fencepost error in Quantum_bogosort.cpp
The big point about having the Nuclear Bomb is to NOT use it...
Steve Jobs broke the truce and went nuclear against Android... Except that most of his nuclear missiles are rotten (patents on obvious things... didn't we have "swipe" in "Minority Report" for example... and rounded rectangle... no comment)
Now, it's beginning to backfire... Samsung, Motorola and other would probably not have sued Apple out of existence... But now, Apple has put them in a situation where it's probably the best move...
My guess is that they will sue Apple again and again until iPhone and iPad go to oblivion... And Apple is in a dangerous situation. It's share is bubbling up... which means that it's perceived value is probably much higher than it's real value... It also mean that the Apple share can drop suddently to levels well below it's real value (panic effect) when the bubble will explode... And market bubble always explode one time or another...
If I want instant communication with someone, I'll run skype, or AIM, or an old-fashioned phone call. Maybe even just use SMS. Email was not supposed to be real-time.
There are no software patents in Germany. This is not a software patent. Also, it's "die Juden" not "der juden".
See, you just learned two new things! Knowing now how easy that was maybe it's time to fill out that school application and give education a try? It's never too late they say.
On second thought, let's not go to Camelot. It is a silly place.
This is incorrect. Android ate from Symbian's market, not iOS' (with RIM losing share to both). Not only that but Google has admitted in a hearing regarding its search monopoly that 2/3 of its mobile web hits come from iOS devices, and now InMobi is claiming that iOS has more mobile advertisement impressions than Android. For the first time iOS is actually in a tug-of-war with Android for market share, and it seems like iOS is winning, asn Android has actually been losing share whereas iOS continues to gain it.
All the companies are just interested in making Apple sit down and shut the fuck up
So the only evidence you have of this is a timeline in which Apple made the first move? Go ahead and project your own bias onto it but the more likely situation is that they are all money grabbing bastards the same as each other, including googlerola. The board have sanctioned this move because they think there is a competetive advantage to be had, not because they want play bitch slappin high fives.
In fact I am rooting for apple not because I am a fanboy (which I am) but because I find this cross licensing consolidation, that is just a club for the big boys, slightly disturbing. And the support of it on slashdot even more so.
You're not accounting for the usage habits of the buyers.
There are *no* ad-supported apps on my cell phone. None. Everything I have installed is either legitimately free, or it came with the phone. And I don't use mobile web at all. I'm on a flex data plan, and my usage is consistently in the bottom tier (25mb/mo). 100% of my data usage is e-mail, calendar, and contacts. I would not show up on either of those statistics. And yes, I have an Android device.
Considering that the iPhone is marketed as an internet-connected consumer device, specifically for the consumption of stuff on the web, I would be willing to lay odds that iPhone users consume more web, on average, than Android users. Sure, there will be aberrations on either platform, but ultimately I think the numbers will show that on the whole, iPhone users consume more data. That will naturally skew statistics that come from watching peoples' data use: that is, search hits and ad impressions.
Iit is a summary judgement based on extended observation, not an oversimplification.
This post (not mine) says it better: http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2691519&cid=39157081
This is not an isolated story, it is one in a series, and it jolly well is about Samsung as they are the ones who have been long term abused by apple with "not real invention" patents and it's nice to seem then able to wield muscle against apple.
blog.sam.liddicott.com
This is the reason that Google purchased Motorola, because Motorola owns a crap-load (yes that's a technical term) of old generic patents that can be applied to almost anything in the mobile industry. Google has gotten tired of being the guy, with no patents, getting kicked by Apple and Microsoft. I for one am glad to see Google doing the kicking for once! At least Google finally got Linux on the map even if it is a Mobile OS! So I say "Hoorah, Google and Keep Kicking!"
The other companies that made cellphones had occasional hissing matches with each other, as companies seem to like to do, but it would get resolved since they realized it was in their best interests. While they'd all like to be the one and only phone provider in the world, they know that isn't going to happen so they'll settle for cross licensing and so on.
Um. No.
http://flowingdata.com/2010/10/11/mobile-patent-lawsuits/
The _ENTIRE MOBILE INDUSTRY_ is suing each other like crazy right now. Stop pretending this is just Apple getting all up in everyone's faces and everyone pushing back valiantly against Apple - this is _THE ENTIRE MOBILE INDUSTRY_ going to war with each other.
And, for the record, it seems that Nokia is the most aggressive company out there, not Apple.
Please, for the love of gawd, if you're going to hate on Apple, at least base it on fact rather than made up garbage. Seriously.
Have these people not read RFC822 (updated by RFC2822)? Or is this just the usual incompetence of the patent office?
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
Being 95.2% disabled with a congenital open angle glaucoma, lack of vision is indeed my problem, but it doesn't affect my judgement in this case. ;)
Appeal to popularity is a fallacy.
But you still have burden of proof.
They have deep pockets. $100 billion deep to be more precise, and their strategies have only brought them profit. You need to rethink your stance.
Your non-violence attitude is fine when all you care about is not starting a war yourself. Doesn't do squat when someone else starts beating up on you.
That's what's going on here. This particular spate of patent fights was triggered when St Jobs decided to go all holy war on Android and Google and won injunctions against phones which had rounded corners among other stupid patents. Motorola, Samsung, HTC, and other Android makers got caught in the cross fire and shot back. Don't get me wrong, Apple fan-boys: everyone plays the same game, it's just this particular mini-war which was started by St Jobs.
The fault is with governments that make money from issuing as many patents as possible and lawyers who make money from fighting as many patent battles as possible. It's quite evident that "obvious to anyone skilled in the arts" and "for a limited time" mean nothing. Patents would have a purpose if they were actually limited to innovative clever not-so-obvious features and there were only, say, one thousandth the number we have now.
But it's also obvious that governments and lawyers have an interest in not limiting patents to the truly innovative, and we'd be better off with no patents whatsoever. Innovative companies would always have a lead in clever designs, and early adopters would be glad to pay a premium for that and quality. Copycat companies would always be playing catchup and have to charge less for mass production.
The world would be a better place if all those patent lawyers and government bureaucrats had to find useful productive work instead of being parasites who gum up the works.
Infuriate left and right
Mein German ist ja a bit corroded, but shouldn't that have been "Das hat sie gesagt"?
Ezekiel 23:20
>>Your lack of vision is your own problem ;)
>
>Being 95.2% disabled with a congenital open angle glaucoma, lack of vision is indeed my problem, but it doesn't affect my judgement in this case.
And your judgement is that I've over-simplified, and that "it" is not about Samsung.
>>I think you find that many people agree with the rational conclusion I posted here.
>
>Appeal to popularity is a fallacy.
I make no such appeal. I merely identify my audience to you. Summarising to those who agree is a form of social currency and self-identification.
>>What I have not done is demonstrate the rational reasoning behind it, I suppose that
>>most readers are able to draw similar conclusions from their own observations.
>>You admit that you cannot see to do this, and I accept your admission.
>
>But you still have burden of proof.
I have no such burden, it is an opinion based on observation. My opinion is that Apple are idiots, who abused their customers from the start of the ipod battery debacle, and who assert the dumbest non-inventive patents ever, and that it gives me great pleasure to watch them wiggle under patents that at least have more technical value than those they asserted.
>>I am hoping that Apple do refuse to accept to be extorted; I'm looking for a long painful fight to
>>dissuade anyone from taking the same path that they have taken.
>
>They have deep pockets. $100 billion deep to be more precise, and their strategies
>have only brought them profit. You need to rethink your stance.
My stance is not to obtain the approval of Apple, I've expressed my view to the understanding of my audience I don't need to re-think anything. I'm not sure that the depth of their pockets is relevant unless you expect them to buy a judge or buy Samsung - either of which would count as severe wriggling.
I'm not trying to bankrupt Apple, just enjoy them getting some of what they've been dishing out.
blog.sam.liddicott.com
Unless you're Greek. Then it's the Germans fault again.
It's Bush's fault! (Sounds like a German name to me.)
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
No, Bush is actually an English Sir Name. German Sir Names commonly end in things like Berg or Berger for example Schamberger (My Grandmothers maiden name), Schamberg, or Hammerberg. Also, a lot of German-Americans shortened their names to just Berg or Berger to try and disassociate themselves with the Nazi's. Just FYI.
Which is correct and you know it. Apple's claims are about a lot more than shapes and colors. There were no successful smartphones in the market like the iPhone before its introduction, and now looking like an iPhone is "standard". What you did was to reduce Apple's claims to absurdity, which is also a fallacy that does nothing more than to show your fanboyism and is thus foolish.
You did that in an attempt to refute an argument in a debate, which is what makes it fallacious. As an argument, your audience is pointless, and your denial of this now only serves to show that you were not thinking rationally when you branched this thread and are now foolishly attempting to safe face.
In that case I question the logic by which you call others idiots, since you demonstrate exactly the same kind of fanaticism that you accuse others of showing. As an Apple customer, I haven't had any battery issues to complain about since the iPhone 4S' launch, and it is now unofficially known that those issues are caused by faulty GPS hardware on some phones, so anyone can take their phone to an Apple Store and complain about that now, or simply disable Location Services if they don't wish to wait for the phone to get fixed. As to non-inventive, as I mentioned earlier, you seem to suffer from hindsight bias, because I don't recall any successful phone in the market similar to an iPhone before 2007, and now all smart phones look like that. Inventive or not, Apple deserves credibility, because they came up with a profitable design.
I really do have to wonder whether you are karma whoring, because you seem a lot more concerned about the way your "audience" perceives you than about thinking rationally and having a logical enlightening debate online. Again, talk about being an idiot...
>>And your judgement is that I've over-simplified, and that "it" is not about Samsung.
>
>Which is correct and you know it. Apple's claims are about a lot more than shapes and colors.
Not the ones I'm arguing about or which have been in the news lately.
>There were no successful smartphones in the market like the iPhone before its introduction,
This is a nice use of the "no true scotsman" falacy. I was using true smartphones over 10 years ago and worked customising the first microsoft smartphone (appeal to authority there).
>and now looking like an iPhone is "standard". What you did was to reduce Apple's claims to
>absurdity, which is also a fallacy that does nothing more than to show your fanboyism and is thus foolish.
No but that's what you just did.
>> I make no such appeal. I merely identify my audience to you. Summarising
>> to those who agree is a form of social currency and self-identification.
>
>You did that in an attempt to refute an argument in a debate, which is what makes
> it fallacious.
There is no debate, only the one in your head
>As an argument, your audience is pointless, and your denial of this now
>only serves to show that you were not thinking rationally when you branched this thread
> and are now foolishly attempting to safe face.
I'm not making an argument (except now, about the fact that I'm not) as I said below
>>I have no such burden, it is an opinion based on observation.
>> My opinion is that Apple are idiots, who abused their customers
>>from the start of the ipod battery debacle, and who assert the dumbest
>>non-inventive patents ever, and that it gives me great pleasure to watch
>> them wiggle under patents that at least have more technical value than those they asserted.
>In that case I question the logic by which you call others idiots, since
> you demonstrate exactly the same kind of fanaticism that you accuse
> others of showing. As an Apple customer, I haven't had any battery issues
> to complain about since the iPhone 4S' launch, and it is now unofficially known
I was talking about gen1 ipod battery issues
> that those issues are caused by faulty GPS hardware on some phones, so
> anyone can take their phone to an Apple Store and complain about that now,
> or simply disable Location Services if they don't wish to wait for the phone to
> get fixed. As to non-inventive, as I mentioned earlier, you seem to suffer from
> hindsight bias, because I don't recall any successful phone in the market similar
> to an iPhone before 2007, and now all smart phones look like that. Inventive or not,
> Apple deserves credibility, because they came up with a profitable design.
Patent is not about design.
>> My stance is not to obtain the approval of Apple, I've expressed my view to
>> the understanding of my audience I don't need to re-think anything. I'm not sure that the depth
>> of their pockets is relevant unless you expect them to buy a judge or buy Samsung -
>> either of which would count as severe wriggling.
>I really do have to wonder whether you are karma whoring,
> because you seem a lot more concerned about the way your "audience"
> perceives you than about thinking rationally and having a logical enlightening debate online.
Dude, it was a throw-away comment, summary of my opinion based on over 10 years of experience, 3 spent in the smartphone industry (appeal to authority)
> Again, talk about being an idiot...
Well for someone who wants reasoning this is the first time you showed any! I didn't was reason I just gave summary of position.
blog.sam.liddicott.com
That's because you are focusing too much on the details while ignoring the big picture of intent. And I'm supposed to be the one lacking vision...
And how does that invalidate my claim about there not being any similar successful smartphones in the market like the iPhone before it? You didn't even name a single example of such a phone! All you did was to boast about something completely irrelevant (not to mention, unverifiable)!
Can you please explain how the text you quoted is a reduction to absurdity?
Yeah, forgive me for actually giving you the chance to prove that you are not the same thing you accuse others of being... I will not overestimate your cognitive abilities again.
Oh, so you're making sweeping statements about all current Apple customers because of something that happened 11 years ago? And we're the idiots?
Neither was I arguing otherwise. The patents are merely tools. Ridiculous or not, they are what companies employ against each other when fighting a legal battle for something that may or may not be related. Again, you are focusing too much in the details and missing the big picture.
When I make comments based on beliefs, I don't usually let them branch out by replying to every answer, unless someone is grossly missing the point, in which case I reply only to clarify what my stance is. Lastly, I usually refrain from insulting the "audience".
I hope everybody destroys each other utterly and consumers suffer BIG TIME. Maybe then the masses will realize how stupid the patent system has become and how it has not been serving it's purpose for existing. Most the patents in that space should not exist; and many of apples should exist as copyright (which is easy enough to work around.) Apple should have put more time into variations on touch screens if they didn't want to be at risk of copy cats; that patent was one of the few legit ones. Then the others would have inferior touch screens... Although, I don't think patents should be allowed to monopolize to that degree, they should have to license to anybody for a high fee with some sort of oversight.
We do not need BP preventing alternative energy progress because they own some key patent. Don't think they wouldn't... if they didn't just keep it secret until they thought somebody else might file it.
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You think Google should have just let themselves be at the mercy of Apple? Did you not read the stories of the deals they forced authors and Amazon into? I'm not saying inventing a whole new phone OS was necessarily the right or best answer but it was clear that were Apple left to dominate the market, they would have been several times worse than Microsoft ever were in the PC market.
Anyone else read that as Putsch email?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Different cases. Apple has a store of their own, so it is natural to not want other business to use their platform to provide competitive services without sharing any of the revenue. They are, however, not in the advertisement business, and thus a partnership with Google would make all the sense here. With Apple providing the platform and Google providing the services, the combined result would be unbeatable and extremely beneficial to consumers.
That's fine; just forward your email to SMS, and it works the same way. Although you only get the first 160 characters, it is instant, and doesn't require 3G. If you can't figure out how to set up Email-SMS forwarding, for free, with no incoming or outgoing text message charges... email me.
Patent is not about design.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_patent
Don't quote me on this.
It is perfectly clear to me now that Google does not play well with others, especially after trying to establish Chrome and Google+ as platforms.
From what I see from a web search on "google suing", that sounds like you'd think my refusal to have anything to do with pedophiles and organized crime was a bad thing. Why in the world would a corp. whose motto is "Don't Be Evil" want to "play well" with those barratrous jerks? Perhaps Google just doesn't like this stupid patent war !@#, and this is the stand it's taking against it? It's not doing them much good considering all the incoming suits from others, but that's not what having principles is all about. It's about doing the right thing, not the convenient thing.
Google !@#$ing buys patent pools to get them off the market so those barratrous jerks can't use them against anyone, FFS! That sounds pretty damned "Don't Be Evil" to me.
No, I'm not a Google fanboi. I don't use anything of theirs; not even search. Nor do I own anything from Microsoft, Apple, Cisco, Samsung, HTC, or Motorola.
"Tongue tied and twisted, just an Earth bound misfit
Thunderbird (on the desktop) happily does that with my IMAP accounts... huh? What am I missing??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP_IDLE
I think all we need to do is sit back and let them fight. Let the big corporations fight over stupid patents. Yes, it will hurt innovation now, and it will hurt consumer interest in the short term. But by having them fight over hundreds, if not thousands of trivial patents, the system will implode. Companies will have to conclude that patents are starting to become more of a burden than they are worth.
Wait five years, this will be solved.
To Terminate, or not to Terminate, that's the question - SCSIROB
No, I'm not a Google fanboi. I don't use anything of theirs; not even search. Nor do I own anything from Microsoft, Apple, Cisco, Samsung, HTC, or Motorola.
Please provide the following info: (1) the search engine you use (2) your mail provider (3) your computer manufacturer (4) your phone manufacturer (5) your OS
after you've done that, then we'll talk.
No, I'm not a Google fanboi. I don't use anything of theirs; not even search. Nor do I own anything from Microsoft, Apple, Cisco, Samsung, HTC, or Motorola.
Please provide the following info: (1) the search engine you use (2) your mail provider (3) your computer manufacturer (4) your phone manufacturer (5) your OS
after you've done that, then we'll talk.
Er, why? Humour me. Why do I owe you that? I don't.
1 - ixquick.com
2 - Dope it out! I use my real email address, and have done liberally for more than a decade.
3 - Which one? I use an HP Pavilion dv4 (64 bit AMD Turion) and a Gateway Model MA3 (32 bit AMD Sempron).
4 - ca. 2009 Nokia (dumb phone).
5 - Linux (Debian stable and testing (squeeze and wheezy).
You? Why do I feel like I'm being stalked by an idjit? And why the !@#$ would I want to talk with you anymore than I have?
Why are you being such an asshole? Just curious. :-|
"Tongue tied and twisted, just an Earth bound misfit
What purpose? Flame baiting by calling people idiots? Karma whoring by posting anti-Apple crap to Slashdot completely devoid of rational thinking?
When did not playing well with others suddenly become suing others? Your entire post relies on this premise, so please explain it.
When did not playing well with others suddenly become suing others? Your entire post relies on this premise, so please explain it.
You accuse Google of not playing well with others (for not playing the "lets share patents" game). Google is not suing others. Others are suing Google.
So, WTF are you talking about?
"Tongue tied and twisted, just an Earth bound misfit
did you read rtfs or the rfta? motogoog is suing apple. that is the wtf of which you speak!
did you read rtfs or the rfta? motogoog is suing apple.
TFS. Well, both Microsoft and Apple have been suing Motorola over Android for quite some time. I assume TFA is just yet another front in that ongoing war. Try $WEB_SEARCH "motorola suing".
"Tongue tied and twisted, just an Earth bound misfit
you may find this interesting. an article about how motogoog is abuisng its frand patents to achieve market share, which is anti-compentetive and now eu is investigating. who's evil now, biatch!
one two.
The other companies that made cellphones had occasional hissing matches with each other, as companies seem to like to do, but it would get resolved since they realized it was in their best interests. While they'd all like to be the one and only phone provider in the world, they know that isn't going to happen so they'll settle for cross licensing and so on.
Um. No.
http://flowingdata.com/2010/10/11/mobile-patent-lawsuits/
I really hate those infographics because they dumb down the scenarios so badly.
Plus that one is wrong, it doesn't even include Apple v Samsung or Apple v Motorola, both Motorola and Samsung's suits against Apple are counter suits.
The graphic lower down on that page explains that the majority of Nokia's suits are over LCD price fixing (so no shit they are suing multiple companies, it's part of the same fucking suit). But as I said, it does not even include the Apple v Samsung case that has garnered a lot of attention.
And, for the record, it seems that Nokia is the most aggressive company out there, not Apple.
For the record, that is bullshit.
If you bothered tor read the incorrect article you linked to, three out of the five Nokia suits are in relation to LCD price fixing, the same suit for three different companies. One of the remaining two is a counter suit against Apple. So that leaves the suit between Nokia and Qualcomm. The original Nokia V Apple was resolved with Apple paying Nokia license fees mid last year, license fees which Nokia had been chasing Apple for since it released the Iphone and Apple had been refusing to pay.
The big difference between Apple and other companies is that Apple is suing it's competitors to prevent them from competing. They aren't asking for reasonable license fees, chances are HTC, Samsung et al. would have paid the danegled to make Apple go away (it worked for Microsoft didn't it), but Apple didn't want this, Apple asked the courts for injunctions, not license fees, so dont act all butt hurt that now everyone else is doing that to Apple.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.