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QuickTime Creator Brings Flash and Office To the iPad, By Subscription

New submitter adycarter writes "Steve Perlman, the man responsilbe for QuickTime and WebTV, has recently launched OnLive Desktop which now offers a 'plus' service enabling iPad users to use Flash, Microsoft Office and the ability to use a Gigabit-speed version of Internet Explorer. The service runs on the same basic technology as their game streaming service in that you're using your iPad as client to access a machine located in the cloud."

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  1. Thanks by rjamestaylor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thanks for ruining my awesome iPad experience. :)

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    1. Re:Thanks by jo_ham · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What, people who use sarcasm?

      Oh, you didn't get it.

      My sympathies.

      (note: possible sarcasm in post. YMMV. void where prohibited)

    2. Re:Thanks by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Funny

      The sad part is when it comes to Appleites its damned hard to tell anymore. i thought when Jobs passed the RDF would die with him but if anything it has gotten stronger, maybe Cook snuck up on him and sucked out the RDF along with his soul which i hear is gonna be packaged in tiny bits for the iPhone 5. . Oh and just in case anyone thinks I'm picking on Apple let me pick on everyone else, wouldn't want anyone feeling left out ya know..."Do no evil" is "think different' for nerds and is just as pointless, MSFT is so lame they can't even come up with a slogan so allow me "Microsoft: We want to be Apple so bad it hurts" and of course Linux has a slogan but it takes 23 hours with CLI and a handwritten compiler to read it, and you have to be an expert in long PHP coding, did i miss anybody? Well maybe BSD, I'll give them a slogan too, just to show what a nice guy I am "BSD: you're so free you're free not to use it like everybody else. Did we mention Apple used some of our code once?"

      But if you want to do sarcasm you got to add that touch of bitter to make it really good, its like nutmeg that way, just a pinch adds just the right flavor. if you are too nice about it without a sarcasm tag people can't tell if you are being sarcastic or have had a koolaid overdose.

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    3. Re:Thanks by dbIII · · Score: 2

      It's dumber (in terms of terminal type) than that, more like VNC requiring far more traffic than X should need.

    4. Re:Thanks by hairyfeet · · Score: 2

      At least have the balls to make an account, and faggot is the best you can do? hell I've been told I live in a sekret warren under redmond where i subtly manipulate the masses into thinking MSFT is the product of choice by insulting them along with everyone else...still haven't figured out how insults make me FOR something? maybe its an underpants gnome thing.

      Oh and how can you NOT laugh your ass off at MSFT after seeing Windows 8? I mean have you seen the thing? ZOMFG! They might as well just call it "WinPad .NET Live Zune eXPerience 3.0!" for all the levels of Apple envy and fail built in.

      Finally its kinda sad the ONLY insult I get is a really lame one from a Softie AC, I'd have thought the batshit FOSSies would have been weaving one of their great 'Its a conspiracy by that other OS!" Voldemort syndrome nuttiness or at least get a ragging from a hipster Appleite or a BSDHead, but i bet they probably thought it was a compliment that i mentioned them at all. Oh and did I mention Apple used some of their code once? I swear its true, it was in like 1992 or something and Steve was a little high on some bad tofu but he totally did! I Swear!

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  2. No mouse by sideslash · · Score: 2

    Presumably this plays nicely with third party keyboards for the iPad, but I'm skeptical of how useful Office would be without a precision pointing device. And even with the keyboard, while that would be great for entering a bunch of text, it's not clear to me whether key combinations would make it across intact (Ctrl+V, Shift+End etc.).

    1. Re:No mouse by noh8rz2 · · Score: 2

      yes, it works with any bluetooth keyboard. The mouse is based on Win7's TouchWiz interface, which... is what it is.

    2. Re:No mouse by symbolset · · Score: 2

      Not sure about the mouse, but this wireless keyboard project looks pretty neat. I love the Model M keyboard.

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  3. Good Enough by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For someone who MUST have Flash (almost no-one) this is a perfect compromise.

    I'm not sure I'd pay a monthly fee just to view restaurant menus though.

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    1. Re:Good Enough by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

      Flash is useful for watching videos.

      That is an example use they gave.

      Although these days almost any Flash video site you can name feeds up h.264 when loaded on an iPad.

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  4. Zombo Com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ever since I got my iPad I was unable to unlock the full potential of Zombocom because of Flash absence. Now I feel like everything is possible again.

    Thank you, OnLive.

    1. Re:Zombo Com by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Informative
    2. Re:Zombo Com by symbolset · · Score: 4, Funny

      This heresy is not even close to the full Zombocom experience. The audio even stops after a while.

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  5. This has been going for a while by jo_ham · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This has been going for a while, and one might argue that remote sessions are not a new thing by any stretch of the imagination, but it's certainly a useful service if you need it - especially for Office apps.

    Word on the grapevine is that Microsoft are working on a native iPad app (or suite of apps) for Office, however - better late than never for those who want to be able to do more than just view Office formats on a tablet.

    (and yes, yes, tablets suck for real work, yadda yadda, no one is using them for real work, toy os etc etc - just heading off that stuff at the pass.)

  6. too much, too late by pbjones · · Score: 3, Interesting

    with people now dropping Flash, and free work-arounds available, a paid Flash experience is doomed. As for Office, if you need it, buy a Macbook Air, or similar. BTW, there are rumours of Office for iPad floating around, and an MS-Works for iPad would sell well, IMHO.

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  7. Re:Subscription model = DOA by cyber-vandal · · Score: 2

    No it's impossible to get it past the gatekeeper.

  8. Re:The data cost to use this will be high by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Unfortunately, that may be one of the prices that needs to be paid when one chooses a platform where you're not allowed to run anything you want. It also may turn out that some of the services like this will actually speed up the experience, like with Opera mini. Anything heavy on processing and light on moving graphics will be much faster run like this. It may turn out that Office runs faster than it would natively.

  9. he is not responsible for QuickTime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    He is not the "QuickTime creator". Steve Perlman was a contracted tester on portions of QuickTime. His main claim to fame in that timeframe is that when the people actually responsible for QuickTime (like Bruce Leak) left Apple for elsewhere shortly after it shipped, he stayed behind at Apple.

    He was however a co-founder of Catapult who did the X-Band modem and service as well as founding WebTV as listed here.

    1. Re:he is not responsible for QuickTime by dsyu · · Score: 2

      Mod AC parent up. Steve certainly was at Apple and worked on Quicktime, but I wouldn't call him the "creator" of Quicktime.

    2. Re:he is not responsible for QuickTime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I worked with Steve at Apple for a couple of years; we were both in ATG. Steve did not play any meaningful role in Quicktime. Quicktime was done by a completely different organization and they were not particularly fans of what we "researchers" were doing :) Bruce Leak and others were really the creators and principals.

      At Apple Steve did research on hardware accelerated embedded multimedia. It was similar to what he went on to do at WebTV (and then sold to Microsoft for a pile of bucks, which was a nice trick) but practically nothing to do with Quicktime.

  10. Oh no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    He subjected the world to QuickTime and WebTV, and now he's trying to bring Office and Internet Explorer to the iPad? What will he do to us next? This monster must be stopped.

  11. Exit Bag by Lehk228 · · Score: 2

    he created Quick Time AND Web TV?

    can we pitch in and buy him an Exit Bag?

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  12. Re:Whom would this benefit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    People who have an iPad but not a MacBook Air?

    That's like stealing from Apple. Are you a thief?

  13. Re:Subscription model = DOA by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

    Is it impossible to code a flash-compatible player that can run on iDevices?

    Ask all the Android fanboys who stopped using it as a bullet point.

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  15. fixing a problem I didn't know I had by burne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and adding injury to insult: charging for the privilege.

    In 21 months of iPad-use I've noticed the lack of flash perhaps five times.

    On the other hand: it saved me from annoying adds about a gazillion times.

    No thanks, I'll pass this one.

  16. Privacy? by hawguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People are quick to jump on Google because they track your searches and can follow you with their ad engine, so I'm surprised that no one mentioned the privacy implications of this service. This opens up a whole new world of trackability (likely more even than Amazon's Silk browser) - running MSIE in a hosted server session gives the provider visibility into everything you do in that browser - everytime you scroll a page, every time you zoom in, every text box you fill in (even if you leave the page without submitting), all of that is trackable.

  17. Let 'em eat JPEG by tepples · · Score: 2

    On my PCs, I leave ads on but turn off Flash for sites not on a whitelist (e.g. dailymotion, youtube, newgrounds, weebls-stuff, ytmnd). If advertisers want to show me a picture of what they're selling, they can go ahead and use JPEGs like everyone else did before the Flash ad was invented.

  18. Re:Whom would this benefit? by thesandtiger · · Score: 2

    I was going to say that it would be useful for people who are walking around while using their iPads (that's a big chunk of my use-case - writing down notes while going to different spaces at a site) but then, I don't need to surf the web at high speed while doing that, nor am I using office since it doesn't do handwriting recognition.

    I do only bring my iPad + a bluetooth keyboard when I travel since it's lighter than a laptop and I usually just connect to a workstation remotely if I'm in a laptopish use scenario, so I guess there's that.

    But I don't think it's terribly compelling.

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  19. Talk about giving credit where it's not due by tyrione · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Man who created QuickTime? Really? The guy was gone by 1990. He brought WebTV thanks to Keith Ohlfs and other technologists to a market no one wanted and sold it ironically to Microsoft for bank and that was a write off for them. He's perfect as a VC guy--incubate, hype up, sell for unjustifiable value, dump and repeat.

    From his wiki page: ``In 2011 Perlman announced that he and colleagues at Rearden have invented distributed-input-distributed-output (DIDO) technology, which a Wired article claimed to be "an experimental wireless communications system that could render cellular connections obsolete".

    Someone should shoot the Wired writer for such a bs claim.

    The man's all hype and no results.

  20. Sunk cost by tepples · · Score: 2

    The iPad is more comfortable to consume content on, though the netbook has the advantage for creation.

    The problem comes when people buy a device on which to consume, short-sightedly assuming that they're never going to want to create. This sunk cost discourages them from spending the money need to get started with creation come the time that they do end up wanting to create.