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Microsoft Launches Windows 8 Consumer Preview

suraj.sun writes "Microsoft on Wednesday made the Consumer Preview of Windows 8 available for download to the general public. Built with touch computing and apps in mind, Windows 8 is crucial to Microsoft's efforts to make inroads against Apple and Google in the red-hot tablet market, where the company is significantly behind rivals. Windows 8 marks the biggest change to the OS since the aforementioned 95 flavor (which, shockingly, turns 17 this year). With Windows 8 comes the introduction of a Metro-style interface, inspired by the lovely and intuitive presentation found in Windows Phone. In it, apps and functions are pinned to tiles and, to interact with those apps, you simply tap those tiles. The former Start Menu has been replaced by a full-screen view of tiles that you can scroll through horizontally. You can pin applications, shortcuts, documents, webpages and any number of other things, customizing the interface in any way you like — so long as what you like is rectangular and only extends from left to right." MrSeb wrote on with info on generating a USB stick installer from the available images, and itwebennet with details about IE10.

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  1. Lovely and Intuitive? by sconeu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I had the Win8 Developer Preview, and I *HATED* the Metro Interface. IMHO it was ugly and a PITA to use. It does not scale well to a standard WIMP interface.

    Maybe for a tablet, it's OK.

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    1. Re:Lovely and Intuitive? by Samalie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Agreed entirely. There is absolutley no fucking way my owners will want this at all in our office environment.

      Complete and utter shit. Vista 2.0

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    2. Re:Lovely and Intuitive? by w.hamra1987 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, as a computer technician, i loved the few years of Vista. I had so many customers buying new laptops, and asking me to downgrade them... Those were the good time, cash pouring in all the time.

      Then came 7, it was good, no one wanting a downgrade, but certainly lots of people needing help to upgrade. Maintenance-wise, 7 didn’t prove to be a challenge, and fixing its problems is usually simpler, especially with the addition of repairing tools to the boot partition.

      I guess now with windows 8, we'll go back to the downgrade frenzy phase... I look very forward to it.. and even more hopefully, Microsoft will again, as with Vista, learn the errs of their ways, and produce a good windows 9.

      whatever the result... I’m happy with my Linux and KDE here... windows is nothing but a huge job opportunity to me :)

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    3. Re:Lovely and Intuitive? by chucklebutte · · Score: 5, Informative

      Metro UI is default in dev preview, and pretty sure it will be in final retail. Your desktop is still there yes, its just a tile now, that you have to press, and wait for your desktop to load, which makes a lot of sense. Who wants to start up their PC and use it to actually work?

    4. Re:Lovely and Intuitive? by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And the ribbons interface for Windows Explorer? WTF?! I would rather be waterboarded. Screw that!

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    5. Re:Lovely and Intuitive? by dave420 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Metro UI is not an OS. You can still use the normal desktop UI if you want, which I'm sure most desktop computer users will.

    6. Re:Lovely and Intuitive? by tibit · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you don't know about that, you're really wasting a lot of time. Did you truly believe there are no new tricks to be learned as you upgrade your Windows? It's not like an undocumented poweruser thing. The damn key is on the keyboard, and has been for a while, what about pressing it every once in a while to see if they added any new functionality to it...

      It's been quite long on both Windows and Mac since you actually had to browse lists to pick up items from them. You know, computers are quite good at looking things up. Command line with suggestions has come back, and it's known as Search or Spotlight.

      Lists/menus/files in folders are good when you don't know what you're looking for. Once you remember the name (or a sample of contents) of the thing you need, let the machine find it for you.

      </rant>

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    7. Re:Lovely and Intuitive? by chispito · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I foresee I'll get modded down like the guy above me... but Vista SP1 isn't that bad. It's not much different than Win7, actually.

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    8. Re:Lovely and Intuitive? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 5, Informative

      You can still use the normal desktop UI if you want, which I'm sure most desktop computer users will.

      Except that the start menu is gone - Clicking 'start' returns you to the metro tiles - Sort of like clicking the button on an iPad. So if you consider the start menu to be part of the 'normal desktop UI' then no, you can't use the normal desktop.

    9. Re:Lovely and Intuitive? by SpryGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Also, XP wasn't actually good (clearly you've forgotten all the bitching over the cartoony UI and issues it had with compatibility and especially security)... XP SP2, however, was very good.

      And as mentioned, Windows 98 and Windows 98SE are both missing from your list (both good).

      Also, Vista SP1 eliminated most of the real problems with Vista.

      So yeah, this meme is everywhere, but it really doesn't hold any water, as you really have to cherry-pick in order to make it work. Better to just stop repeating it.

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  2. "Consumer" Preview by redneckmother · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does anyone else take exception to the use of the word "consumer" instead of "customer"?

    1. Re:"Consumer" Preview by sixtyeight · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes. It's somewhere between "helpless end-user" and "grazing cattle".

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    2. Re:"Consumer" Preview by causality · · Score: 5, Informative

      Doesn't consumer just mean an entity that consumes?

      No. It comes from the broadcast industry.

      Say you run a TV station. You broadcast TV shows plus commercials over the air at no charge. Anyone with the right receiver can watch your content without paying you a cent.

      The advertisers who buy commercial time are your customers. They are the ones paying you. If you piss them off, say by airing programs they find distasteful, they will take their business elsewhere and you will lose that revenue.

      The viewers who provide eyeballs for the advertisers but pay nothing ... those are the consumers. Compared to your customers, they have little or no power to change your content or make requests. One of them threatening to watch another channel means nothing to you. They only matter in very large groups.

      They are not remotely the same thing. A customer can be influential as an individual. Referring to a customer as a "consumer" is an Orwellian Newspeak method of trying to disempower them, to tilt the balance of market power in your own favor without having earned it. It is belittling and degrading and shows a certain contempt that can only come from taking them for granted.

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  3. Possibly too little, too late ... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My organization is in the middle of deploying Windows 7 to replace XP desktops.

    Given the costs and time of doing this, it will likely be several years before this gets replaced.

    I wonder if other organizations are only just getting to Win 7, if Win 8 might become one of those releases that everyone bypasses since they just finished upgrading. That would likely hurt MIcrosoft.

    Anybody got any screenshots for the new interface? I'm curious to know how trying to make something optimized for phones and tablets is going to work as an actual desktop interface. It sounds like they might be trying a bit of a "one size fits all" approach, which doesn't always work so well.

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  4. Re:A new kind of copying by sideslash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How are they mimicking iOS? Aside from lots of use of multitouch, I'd describe it as a radically different UI style.

  5. Re:My desktop is not a tablet. by networkBoy · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, you can't.
    You can launch a desktop tile and bring up a standard desktop UI, but you can not disable metro.
    If you have found a way to do so, please let me know, as I've been trying for several weeks now, as it interferes with some of my automated test regressions.
    -nB

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  6. Turnabout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer" in regedit, set "RPEnabled" to "0". Haven't tried it myself (don't have Win8), but supposedly it completely disables all the Metro and Ribbon stuff in Explorer.

    all of this low-level technical registry mumbo-jumbo that Grandma could never handle is why we will never have the Year of the Windows Desktop...

  7. It reminds of Yahoo and Portals by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember them? When your ISP still thought that you would visit their home page for anything else but to find the way to cancel the service?

    Yahoo was just one of many to do this and often it meant that what you came for was completely impossible to find. MS has never lost this, its web presence is a design nightmare. There really even isn't one. Every little thing gets its own site, often barely working and then gets forgotten. It also happens to bigger things, MS pushed its own solution for selling music for music players, then it dropped it completely when it launched the Zune and then it dropped the Zune. Games for Windows has had many forms, launched and forgotten again.

    But now... this approach has made it to the desktop and it ain't new at all. Active Desktop, widgets,gadgets, someone at MS seriously believes that people spend all their time looking at their desktop. Are you? Right now, how much space on the screen in front of you is taken up by the browser?

    Right... where are all those Metro blocks supposed to go?

    The engadget article doesn't suprise me. Did you see the monitor in the video? I didn't even know they still made them that small. The original Mac had a bigger screen for fucks sake. Now try the same interface and the scroll down for start menu on a triple 30 inch monitor setup. And I am thinking of going to 6. Apples unified menu system, Unity, Gnome 3. They ALL suck with big screens. Of course not everyone has a big screen... even more reason to use the available space for what you are working on. Where are the metro apps? Hidden... now you want something else... so you are supposed to minimize all applications, then click on the desktop and get that app running fullscreen because you need full details... that is handy?

    No... this is a classic designer mistake, it looks pretty but it isn't usable. If you demo it, you have only one app running and as you make the metro desktop appear you pause and show the wealth of information available to you and how easy it is to get a detailed view open... very nice, very smooth and totally NOT how you do it when you are working.

    Jagged Alliance 2 was a turnbased game that on every move, had the bottom 3rd of the screen drop out and appear again to change the display. Very pretty... once... the millionth time, you want to exterminate the designer and everyone he ever met.

    I just don't see people use their PC's the way the metro app seems to think. Most people I know work with either full screen applications or have them covering the desktop and switch them the taskbar or by alt-tabbing. The desktop just never is in view. That is why Active Desktop never got anywhere, people never saw it. With the new linux desktop Enlightenment it is possible to make animated wallpapers... cute... and there is a reason nobody else has bothered with it, because you never see the damn thing. The desktop and start menu are there to get you started... from then on, you switch between applications and never ever close them. Only the most infrequent users and under powered constantly shut down their PC and start it up again. I know one person like that and she has firefox on autostart and arranges it to cover the desktop with her IM.

    The Metro style is the domain of movie UI's. I remember one Sci-Fi movie with I think Robert Sellect (magnum PI) in which he goes through a morning routine with a robot. It is a common enough scene in future movies and it just doesn't happen. A: No human being can possibly care to be informed in detail about the weather outside, the news, appointments, social chat with relatives, banter with the AI before they got a cup of coffee. B: Any AI system at the moment that would display so much information would display the wrong thing at the wrong time and C: INFORMATION OVERLOAD.

    I check my mail... then I read the comics... then I check the weather. Display them all at once... and WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THE ADS FOR THOSE FREE SERVICES?

    I think this will be another MS Bob. Vista? To small a disast

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  8. So just disable metro: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    1) Click the Desktop "Tile"

    2) Open up File Manager and point your browser to C:\\Windows\\System32\\

    3) Rename shsxs.dll to old_shsxs.dll

    4) Confirm UAC Dialog Prompt

    5) Reboot the Operating System

    6) On the new login screen, click the mouse button and drag up

    7) Login to the machine

    8) Your operating system should act like a desktop OS without the "crap"