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Ask Slashdot: Life After Firefox 3.6.x?

Mooga writes "I am a hard-core user of Firefox 3.6.x who has chosen to stick with the older, yet supported version of Firefox for many years now. However, 3.6.x will soon hit end-of-life, making my life, and the lives of similar users, much more complicated. 3.6.x has been known for generally being more stable and using less RAM than the modern Firefox 10 and even Chrome. The older version of Firefox is already having issues rendering modern websites. What are others who have been holding onto 3.6.x planning on doing?"

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  1. Why the anxiety? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I do not understand techie luddites. Why didn't you upgrade? Why the anxiety? It's a fucking WEB BROWSER. Life will go on.

    1. Re:Why the anxiety? by macraig · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Except this Luddite's primary arguments, RAM allocation and stability, are apparently bullshit. Why even humor him with a Slashdot submission?

    2. Re:Why the anxiety? by LordLimecat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I could have sworn back in the 3.6 days that everyone was complaining about its RAM usage, and that some pined for the 2.0 days of better RAM usage.

      Isnt there a saying about the grass being greener?

    3. Re:Why the anxiety? by elashish14 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      10.0 is twice the disk size as 3.6, but again it's going to be WAY faster, but perhaps not much different on the memory landscape.

      10.0 has HTML5 support and a totally different, much faster JS engine. I'll give them a break if it takes up a little more diskspace.

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    4. Re:Why the anxiety? by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Are people really running machines with that little ram? I have 4GB on my 2 year old computer. Heck my last computer (which was work supplied and circa ~2008) had 2GB (Mac Leopard) and was fine. 400MB is a lot of RAM for a browser put it is rare that I'm anywhere's near my system RAM limit so I don't care.

      For example right now I have: VS 2010 pro, Vuze, VLC running a video, iTunes, and FF 10 running on a Win 7 box which is notorious for being RAM happy (actually a good thing if the ram is there it might as well have stuff loaded in it just in case you ask for it later), anyways 2.8GB of RAM used. FF is using 200MB of that, I really don't care that 1/19th of my used RAM is my browser. The quick access to streaming porn is more than worth it to me.

    5. Re:Why the anxiety? by Cederic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      My phone too outpowers his PC but his point is still correct: His PC is perfectly adequate for browsing the web.

      Just because Win2k is out of support doesn't mean that it's suddenly inoperable. It means you wouldn't run business systems on it due to the corporate risk involved.

      It's not luddism to decline to upgrade something that's working effectively, especially when the upgrade has high cost and questionable benefits.

  2. Sounds familiar by emeitner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doesn't seem too long ago that I was having the same questions about Netscape Navigator 4.5. I survived.
     

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  3. Just upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Stop being a pain the ass and upgrade.

    It's a browser, not some server software.

  4. Really? by Guspaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Making your life "much more complicated"? It's an outdated web browser. Update to something modern and move on with your life.

  5. Firefox 3.6 has lower RAM usage? by Fancia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    3.6.x has been known for generally being more stable and using less RAM than the modern Firefox 10...

    I actually don't agree with your premise. While Firefox had some issues around version 4, Firefox 10 is actually faster and more stable than Firefox 3.6 was, and RAM usage is on a downward trend. I understand that Firefox ~4 turned you off because I was really irritated by the regressions that came around that time, but things *did* get better. If you give it another try and make sure you give it a fair shake without already having decided it's worse, I think you'll find it's actually an improvement over what you're using right now. It's not like Firefox 3.6 was a speed demon in its day either... Firefox's memory hog problems go back way further than that.

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  6. Luddite refuses to upgrade. News at 11. by msobkow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless you're being forced to run obsolete software by some perverse corporate mandate, you have no excuse nor valid reason for running such outdated software. You are the smoking clunker on the highway of the internet. You are the grey haired granny in the fast lane of the web. The road hazard. The surfing security hole.

    Are you getting it?

    You are the security risk.

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  7. Opera welcomes you by Voyager529 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Opera is where I went after I stopped feelin' Firefox. Tab groups, notes, mail/irc/bittorrent/rss clients built in, Opera Turbo for those times you're tethering and need to conserve on your wireless cap, gestures, widgets and extensions (including AdBlock and NoScript), speed dial, session preservation, private browsing, reasonable memory usage, skins and themes, configurable download behavior, configurable keyboard shortcuts, a sane release schedule, and performance that frequently rivals Chrome. Also, it runs on basically anything - Windows (as early as 2000 with the current version, I believe), OSX, virtually every flavor of Linux, and Solaris (and basically every mobile operating system ever developed), and the Windows installer for Opera is nearly 33% smaller than the most recent edition of Firefox. While it's not Richard-Stallman-Free, it is freeware now.

    To be fair, the only issues I've had were with some IE specific sites. The most prominent example is...basically every version of Outlook Web Access Microsoft ever released, even though the more recent versions have worked correctly on Firefox, Chrome, and Safari. The Sharepoint at work does work correctly, however lists aren't rendered in database view the way they are in IE. Opera tends to take standard compliance to the point where it seems as if the browser says, "if I don't render it right, the site is wrong". While technologically correct, in practice Firefox handles these kinds of sites with much more practical grace, in no small part because FF is almost invariably a part of website design testing, while Opera is less frequently tested. Still, it's the rare exception for websites to not display correctly in Opera, at least to the point of getting the content you need, but even these discrepancies are relatively infrequent.

  8. Re:As users, we're getting fucked over. That's why by Skapare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, basically, everyone else was lying about how advanced they were, so Firefox should, too?

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  9. Re:As users, we're getting fucked over. That's why by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Look, you can mod my posts down if you like. Fine. Just remember, though, that when you start talking your product up, you're elevating it from "community project' to "this is ready for prime-time". That means it'll get criticized. It doesn't matter what the price is, that door has been opened.

    "You get what you pay for" is a common cop-out with complaints about OSS. When you do that, you're not saying "see, OSS really can replace proprietary software", you're saying "It's inferior, you know that already, don't bitch."

    Don't play that card, it only hurts OSS.

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