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Canadian Music Industry Wants Subscriber Disclosure Without Court Oversight

Posted by Soulskill on from the they-get-cranky-when-the-leafs-lose dept.

An anonymous reader writes "The incredible demands of the Canadian music industry as it seeks a massive overhaul of Canadian copyright law continues. It is seeking increased liability for social networking sites, search engines, blogging platforms, video sites, and many other websites featuring third party contributions, plus a new iPod tax, and an extension in the term of copyright. Last week, it went further, demanding a requirement for Internet providers to disclose customer name and address information to copyright owners without court oversight as well as takedowns with no due process and unlimited statutory damages."

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  1. You used to be cool, Canada by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What happened to that Canada I remember, huh? The country to took in draft dodgers during Vietnam? The country that instituted universal healthcare? The country where "liberal" wasn't an insult? The country that wasn't afraid to zig when the U.S. zagged?

    You've changed, man.

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    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
    1. Re:You used to be cool, Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Stephen Harper happened.

    2. Re:You used to be cool, Canada by the_other_one · · Score: 5, Funny

      We are now a Harptatorship.

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    3. Re:You used to be cool, Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      This hasn't passed yet. We massively protested the Lawful Access act(C30) and it's on hold now. Some of their demands are exactly why C30 didn't pass yet. I wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't pass too. What they are asking isn't in the bill yet, it's their wish list, a very naughty wish list.

    4. Re:You used to be cool, Canada by SuricouRaven · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's how politics is done. If you want A, you demand A, B, C, D, E and F... knowing that your opponents will argue strongly, and not give up until they have something of a victory. So they defeat you on B, C, D, E and F, and declare themselves successful - but you get away with A, which is what you wanted all along. Everything else was just to play the game.

    5. Re:You used to be cool, Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Basically, history repeating itself. The radical right snuck in.

      Once upon a time, the Republican party in the US were decent and respectable. Case in point, Abe Lincoln. Then Nixon and the rest of his radical right invaded the party and made a dramatic "course correction".

      In Canada, the conservative party used to be a pretty decent set of people. Boring, but trustworthy. Then Brian Mulroney came along, introduced a number of measures that generated so much great deal of dislike ("free trade" and a federal sales tax) for the party that they shrank to a tiny fraction of their former size. The radical right, calling themselves "the Reform Party", were generally regarded as a bunch of dangerous kooks and hence didn't have a chance of getting into power. However, they brokered a merger with the now pitiful Conservative party, gaining a few seats, but more importantly, getting the right to use the "Conservative Party" name. People might have been embarrassed to vote for the Reform Party, but the voting for "Conservative Party" was a family tradition. The new "Conservative Party" eventually managed a few minority governments because the center and left wing votes were split among too many other parties before eventually winning a majority government.

      And yes, most of us are embarrassed by being represented by Stephen Harper as you were when George Bush Jr was in power.

    6. Re:You used to be cool, Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We should make a strong counter proposal:

      1) Shorten copyright to 10 years
      2) Remove the levy on blank media
      3) Quit whining about "profits" - you aren't "entitled" to them; you have to go earn them. Yes, this means you don't get any more laws to prop up legacy methods of distribution.

  2. Color me shocked by MonsterTrimble · · Score: 5, Informative

    The CRIA is the canadian arm of the RIAA. They just reached a settlement to pay $47.5 million to songwriters which they had been screwing for decades Why is anyone surprised they would try for this?

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    I call it 'The Aristocrats'
  3. Found this... by ilsaloving · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey, USA! *holds up rat traps with RIAA lawyers attached*

    We found these in our garage. We left some money on a shelf the other day, figuring it would be ok, but it looks like these lil guys detected the scent and chewed their way inside. Do you want them back, or should we just take them to animal control to be euthanized?

  4. Also first pick of virgin daughters by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone found to have downloaded, listened to, performed (including whistling, humming, and spoken-word), mentioned, or remembered, whether intentionally, unintentionally, or involuntarily, any music that cannot be proven to not be covered by copyright or potentially covered by copyright in the future, or anyone in possession of any digital copies of music without a DRM spinal shunt, will be required to send their virgin daughters upon reaching age 16 for inspection to:

    Royal Canadian Music Industry Headquarters
    Mount Doom, Canada

    Any daughters found to be desirable will be held until no longer useful. If your daughter is held, you will be responsible for a $4,000 monthly sustenance fee until such time as she is released. Anyone not in compliance with the above policies will be sued unto death or capitulation.

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  5. Re:iPod tax?! by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Does it mean its legal to pirate music on iPods because the copyright lobby is getting paid for the sale of the item because it could be used for piracy? Like their blank CD tax...

    Again, another case of them wanting to have their cake and eat it too.

    They want the tax, er, levy ... and they want to make sure any form of copying is also illegal.

    They're talking about making it a criminal offense to break any form of digital lock, for any reason. So, my old copy of DVD Decryptor is now a WMD. So much for fait use and some of our other rights.

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    Lost at C:>. Found at C.
  6. Unlikely to happen, Really bad timing by volts · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We just had a major shit-storm in Canada over a government bill (C-30) that would allow the police the right to identifying information without a warrant. The bill has been hustled off to committee for amendment as a result of public outrage. Government politician must be rolling their eyes at the timing of CIMA's demands.