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Server Names For a New Generation

itwbennett writes "Server naming is well-trod ground on Slashdot. But as new generations enter the workforce, they're relearning the fundamentals of what makes a good scheme. Can servers named after characters from The Simpsons or The Howard Stern show stand the test of time? If you name your servers after the Seven Dwarfs, can you have any doubt that Grumpy will cause you trouble? Striking a balance between fun and functional is harder than it seems."

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  1. Re:Bugs? by emurphy42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    from the tempting-fate dept.

  2. Server Names: The Next Generation by mjwx · · Score: 4, Funny

    Make it so.

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  3. Fun names worked great, for a while. by glassware · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At my startup company, we named servers after notable videogame characters. It was quite nifty when we had three servers; it stayed fun for years. But when we reached 30 servers, gradually problems crept in. One machine needed to be rebuilt and the name kept getting reassigned. Similar names were confusing.

    Server naming schemes are cute until you outgrow them. Hint: Determine for yourself when you outgrow them. We now name servers by their function and their sequence number.

    1. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hint: Use CNAME and you can keep the fun server name, too!

    2. Re:Fun names worked great, for a while. by giverson · · Score: 4, Informative

      I actually just dealt with this recently. Vista and 7 have no problem connecting to servers using CNAMES, but XP does. The solution is a single registry change on the server side. It's a very easy fix. Google DisableStrictNameChecking.

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  4. Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by pecosdave · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know the Pokémon names are going to get old fast.

    Star Wars, Star Trek, even Battlestar Galactica are great sources for names. JigglyPuff is NOT a server name!

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    1. Re:Now that I'm mid 30's I realize I'm not young. by Tastecicles · · Score: 4, Funny

      Jigglypuff is that Prescott-based box with the stack of Maxtor drives in it... it vibrates, then explodes.

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  5. I name them after girls by simoncpu+was+here · · Score: 4, Funny

    I name my computers, VMs, and bots after female characters (Inara, Padme, Daenerys, Trinity, etc). It originated from a long forgotten time when I can't get laid.

    1. Re:I name them after girls by Sneeka2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      It originated from a long forgotten time when I can't get laid.

      Too bad your freudian slip of mixing past and present tense gave you away.

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    2. Re:I name them after girls by Sneeka2 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I name mine after girls that I actually laid. And I'm running a data center for Google.

      Ba-dum-bum.

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    3. Re:I name them after girls by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 4, Funny

      I name mine after girls that I actually laid. And I'm running a data center for Google.

      So....

      Christy_from_Canada_1, Christy_from_Canada_2, Christy_from_Canada_3, ...Christy_from_Canada_99999

    4. Re:I name them after girls by Sneeka2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, that's actually a bit of a problem. Canadians really need to get a little more creative in naming their daughters.

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    5. Re:I name them after girls by clyde_cadiddlehopper · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, that's actually a bit of a problem. Canadians really need to get a little more creative in naming their daughters.

      How about their racks? ChristyAA, ChristyC, ChristyDD...

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    6. Re:I name them after girls by halcyon1234 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Christy_from_Canada_1, Christy_from_Canada_2, Christy_from_Canada_3, ...Christy_from_Canada_99999

      He's got 99999 problems but a server name ain't one.

  6. Re:Functional by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Indeed. After years of enduring networks with servers with tree names or GI Joe character names, when it came for me to come up with names for my servers and other network devices, I came up with functional names that describe physical locations, departments, functions, and so forth. That way I have a descriptive network rather than trying to remember which one of the Power Rangers the last IT guy liked the best.

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  7. Re:Bugs? by slackware+3.6 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or you could name them after Linux distro's those are almost infinite to.

  8. Re:It hasn't changed much, except for VMs by HockeyPuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're in deep trouble when you build an ESX cluster. Then you'll have blue-1 running on the ESX server red and blue-2 running on orange.

  9. Re:Cross functional standard that is driven by mgm by isorox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There can be a naming standard that is applied to all devices, network, servers, storage, so on, that help simplify how an IT organization works. This has to be driven by management.

    Naming things by some arbitrary set of characters from your favorite story does not scale well, to say the least.

    Lets create a standard that scales like a mofo:

    ie, SJN1FIDBSW0001
    The goal would be to have each device identified by a location (SJN), location code (1), businessorg (FI), zone (DB) device type (SW), ,logical identifer (0), physical device # (001)

    The problem with that naming convention is you get very similar named servers, which might only differ by a single character in the middle of a hard-to-scan blob of text.

    On colleague of mine has managed to flatten a production oracle server because he connected to the Manchester one, not the Washington one. The difference was embedded in the middle of the all-caps dns. Several people have restarted services on the wrong server too, again a single character difference in 15.

    Since then I've instituted a policy of changing PS1 to prepend the hostname with the location in plain text.

    When it comes to outside addressing, heigherarchial dns and cnames allow easy addressing. oracle1.washington.mycorp.com, web1.gaza.mycorp.com is fairly clear where the box is and what the function is, and when it comes time to reassign functions, you just update the cname.

  10. With apologies to T.S. Eliot by Dave+Emami · · Score: 4, Funny

    "The Naming of Servers is a serious matter,
    It isn't just one of your holiday games.
    You may think at first I'm as mad as a hatter
    When I tell you a server has three different names..."

    ... those being DNS entry, IP, and the one which "the server itself knows, and never will confess."

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    1. Re:With apologies to T.S. Eliot by laejoh · · Score: 5, Funny

      Can't believe noone mentioned this: picking a good server name is important.

  11. HHGTG by Space · · Score: 4, Funny

    Some names will stand the test of time. A box with two monitors should of course be named Zaphod.

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  12. Re:What's wrong with functional names? by Hacksaw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Nailed it.

    With servers being generally virtual these days, and the underlying physical hardware a highly replaceable substrate, there's no reason for an enterprise to have serves which do more than one thing. If a server does only one thing, it ought to be named for that one thing.

    mailserver-eastcoast.example.com

    Where is that machine? Somewhere in the blade cage. If I yank the blade, it'll appear in a few seconds on another blade. Where is the data? On the giant fiber RAID, which is replicated in the west coast office, and two secret locations.

    Compute is a cloud, storage is a cloud, services come from that cloud, the clouds made of physical devices in as many locations as make sense.

    The old physical network topology is finally just the nerves and pumps, and no longer the focus.

    The focus is the data. The data is what we produce to make value, to drive the business process. Servers aren't special anymore, they're like hammers. You don't name hammers, typically. But you might have more than w=one, and you definitely want to know two things: where is it, and what is it for.

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  13. All machines should have two (or more) names. by oneiros27 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The problem with naming servers after their functions is that in most shops, a server does more than one thing. And they often get moved / repurposed / whatever.

    So that machine that's now ldap-ny-02? Well, last week it was web-ny-05. A couple months from now, are you going to remember that name change, and that web-ny-05 had that flaky power supply / fibre card / etc?

    Oh, that service that had been running on lasco05? We moved that to the 'new' lasco03. (and there have been how many machines named lasco03?)

    I've worked in a lot of places, and these days with clusters, virtual hosts, etc, you often have a different public-facing name (which will get used when people call in a problem ... how are they to know that some service is 5+ machines behind a load balancer? Or that all of the web sub-domains are really on the same server? Even if you don't plan for the abstraction, it already exists due to these different aggregations.

    If you give the hardware one name when it comes in, and only use aliases for each of the public services, you don't have to worry about recycling names just so there's no service interuptions. ... and, true story, I've even worked in place with a machine named 'teller' after Edward Teller (the last article), as all of our mail servers were named after scientists ... but when I moved it for testing, I renamed the pair for that cluster to 'penn', and we later added a 'copperfield' and 'houdini' ... but we had to scrap the physicist names when our director didn't believe us that the spam filters weren't rejecting his e-mail because it was going through a machine named 'lovelace', and it was named after Ada Lovelace, not Linda Lovelace.)

    I've worked with machines named after cheeses, spices, cartoon characters, music albums, movies, adverbs, muppets, states, rivers, tv-characters, the boss's family, periodic table, hashes of the service/location/os, astronomical phenomena,

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  14. Dual naming by sqldr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I joined a company with over 500 servers and a really incoherent naming scheme - or lack of. I could talk for hours on how you built a name out of a class hiearachy which also matched its class in puppet, but the dual naming them was a win. Basically it works like this:

    When servers are racked up, they're just numbered, with a TLA for the location they're in based on nearest airport code.

    lax-001
    lax-002
    lax-003

    That name is PERMANENT unless it gets shipped to a new location. It also gets assigned an IP right away. But so far a bit meaningless. then it gets assigned a function

    foo-web-01 CNAME lax-002
    mail-02 CNAME lax-003
    bar-db-06 CNAME lax-004

    This has a couple of huge advantages, namely:

    1. When a guy in the datacentre asks you for label names to rack them up, you just say "just number them 45-67", and they get on with it before you've even assigned them.

    2. No re-labelling

    3. You can look up the "meaningless" name just using DNS

    4. You have a numbered inventory

    5. With a bit of work, you can pre-assign IP addresses to servers before they've even turned up and get the network guys to tag them straight in to the switch on arrival

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    1. Re:Dual naming by khr · · Score: 5, Funny

      lax-001
      lax-002
      lax-003

      That name is PERMANENT unless it gets shipped to a new location

      I take it then you prepend "ex-" to the name indicating they used to be lax...

  15. Logical name and friendly name by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 4, Informative

    At the company I work for (large international corp) we have a logical name and a friendly name. The logical name helps identify where the machine is geographically (country, data center, unit) and the friendly name which is given out to everyone, which can be whatever name was requested, as long as it is suitable. This way you keep both the network team happy (you can tell from the name where to find it) and everyone else too (they have a name that is easy to remember).

    In the case of virtual machines and blades there is another logical naming scheme, adapted to the context.

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  16. Re:Bugs? by Talderas · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd rather take this a step further and name them after viruses.

    Smallpox.
    HIV.
    Ebola.
    Polio.

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