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Apple Switches (Mostly) To OpenStreetMap

beelsebob writes "In the recent release of iPhoto for iOS it appears that Apple has started using OpenStreetMap's data. Unfortunately, there are still some problems. Apple is currently not applying the necessary attribution to OSM; they are using an old (from April 2010) dump of the data; and they are not using the data in the U.S. Fingers crossed that Apple works through these issues quickly! Apple is now one of a growing list (including geocaching, and foursquare) to Switch2OSM."

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  1. Re:hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah. Because Apple never gives back to the digital community. Oh. Wait. http://www.apple.com/opensource/

    So, yeah, I'll take that bet.

  2. OSM complete coverage by agentgonzo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Whilst OSM is very good for free data, there are still pockets of areas where the coverage is very poor indeed. I had to map out half of my uncle's town as it just wasn't there on OSM (about 9 months ago). At every stage, it's getting better, but the more 'big players' that start to switch to it, the more momentum it will get and the better the coverage will be as more contributors flow in.

    This is especially the case as parts of the OSM dataset are about to be wiped out due to the forthcoming remapping.

  3. Silly headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    They are using OpenStreetMap in one iOS photo editing application that costs $5. I would hardly call that "mostly switching." More like the first toe in the water.

  4. Re:hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The problem with German GPS is it only gives you directions to Warsaw.

  5. Re:hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm unsure what that URL is meant to show because all it shows to me is that they include open-source software as part of OS X. We know that. It's what this article is about.

    Your comment was related to whether Apple contribute code back. That page has no information about Apple returning code at all. Stop spreading misinformation.

    Now, the facts.

    Apple contribute code back. A fair bit of code has been accepted into FreeBSD from Apple. Do they contribute back as much as they should, ethically? That's debatable, personally I'd say no. Recently they're reducing their open-source efforts too (CUPS).

    Why can't people just discuss things normally rather than having all this pro-Apple / anti-Apple garbage?

  6. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN!!111!!!!! by marcello_dl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The past story with khtml webkit, and the recent story about apple-only planned features in CUPS, and the general attitude of big and small commercial entities towards free software, should make people just a little wary.

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  7. Re:lol by dair · · Score: 5, Informative

    The map tiles are certainly Apple's own - they have defined their own stylesheet, with their own look.

    However the map data those tiles were rendered from appears to be a mix of TIGER in the US and OSM elsewhere. TIGER is a public domain dataset from the US Census Bureau, and OSM is CC-BY-SA.

    Looking at the shape of the data is often enough to tell you where it came from. One one level it's modelling the same reality, but in practice mappers tend to make slightly different versions of "the same" object (a road might be smoothly curved, or quite angular, depending on how much effort they went to). As such you can quite easily see when data comes from the same source, even if it's rendered in a different style.

    It's pretty conclusively OSM if you look at which small features (footpaths, lanes within a car park, etc) are rendered. This data isn't present in the commercial datasets you can licence from people like TomTom, however it is in OSM (neither Navteq nor TeleAtlas have footpaths, or this kind of micro-mapping of lanes within parking areas).

    Based on things like this, typos which appear on both maps, and roads that are in OSM now but aren't in Apple's tiles - it looks pretty clear that they used a snapshot of OSM, specifically one from early April 2010.

  8. Re:hahaha by paanta · · Score: 5, Funny

    Huh? I got great navigation from Berlin to Moscow. Well, *almost* to Moscow. The whole app did freeze up when I was about 20 miles out.