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Rep. Darrell Issa Requests Public Comments On ACTA

langelgjm writes "After repeated dismissals by the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, Congressman Darrell Issa has taken matters into his own hands by posting a copy of ACTA online and asking for public comments. ACTA, the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, is a secretly negotiated multilateral trade treaty with the potential for profoundly affecting the Internet. 'ACTA represents as great a threat to an open Internet as [do] SOPA and PIPA and was drafted with even less transparency and input from digital citizens,' Issa said."

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  1. Please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Please, dear god, read some of it and post an intelligent comment. If you put in a generic rant, you merely become a statistic. However, if ou present a relevant comment, they are required to annotate it.

  2. I for one have new hope... by SpzToid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...and his name is U.S. Congressman Darrell Issa. Darrell Issa is kicking ass and taking names out there 'in the open' and he deserves your support too.

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    1. Re:I for one have new hope... by SpzToid · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hey AC, I googled a citation for what you're talking about, because I honestly had no clue. This is very interesting also.

      “It was just crushing to hear the chairman’s reason to not allow my testimony,” Fluke told ABC News. “I can understand that [the issue] is connected to religion, but I don’t understand how you can have an open conversation without hearing from the women who have been personally affected by this.”

      http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/rep-darrell-issa-bars-minority-witness-a-woman-on-contraception-2/

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    2. Re:I for one have new hope... by Baloroth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are two things about that story that are quite interesting. The first is that the "story" Fluke wanted to tell was a personal anecdote (hardly fit material for a discussion, unless you are attempting an emotional appeal... which again, is not exactly what we want our laws to be based one). Second, they put the fact that she was a minority in the headline (as if that was the issue) when clearly at least one of the witnesses was already black (so, not the actual issue). And finally, since when was a student at a university considered an expert witness on anything like this? Seriously. A professor, sure. A random person they happened to find in a university with a (no doubt) heart wrenching story? I'm sorry, but she doesn't actually have any standing to testify. I can demonstrate that with an easy (ridiculous) example: have a white person testify that black people beat him up, at a hearing to pass a law to throw all black people in jail. Does that testimony offer any credible reason to pass the law? No, and neither does Fluke's.

      Also, the best part was this quote:

      She criticized the Republican committee chairman, Rep. Darrel Issa, for wanting to “roll back the fundamental rights of women to a time when the government thought what happens in the bedroom is their business.”

      Actually, Issa wants the government to not be involved in the bedroom: i.e. not to have the government fund their contraceptives, or, rather, to force religious organizations to provide them (which contradicts religious principles).

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    3. Re:I for one have new hope... by Hatta · · Score: 4, Informative

      And finally, since when was a student at a university considered an expert witness on anything like this? Seriously.

      Seriously? A female student at university is exactly the kind of person who is going to be most affected by government policies on birth control. That's exactly the kind of person you want lots of input from.

      Let's not forget that she was the oppositions ONLY witness at that hearing. Darrell Issa was only interested in shutting down debate. Shame on him.

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    4. Re:I for one have new hope... by Baloroth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, the issue at question here is whether it is right and legal to force religious organizations to act against their conscience, i.e. to provide health insurance that must includes contraceptives. This isn't government policy on contraceptives: it is government policy setting organizational policy on birth control. As the good Rabbi says in the linked article,

      “We are not here because we seek to hurt preventative care of anybody. We are here today because the administration is showing insensitivity to the liberty of conscience.”

      You wouldn't be in favor of the government forcing vegan restaurant to server meat, would you? This is very similar, except even more so: this is more like the government forcing the vegans to slaughter the animals on-site, then serve the meat. Flukes argument (in this analogy) is that her friend didn't get enough protein because the vegan restaurant doesn't serve meat. But I suppose it's OK to force people to act against their conscience, because it's for the common good. Right?

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    5. Re:I for one have new hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I feel like you might be missing the larger issue here. If we're going to require employers to provide health insurance to their employees, it probably isn't a good idea to allow them to refuse to cover some treatment to which they have a "religious objection", because the end result of that is "an employee doesn't get any medical care that the employer does not like". Contraception is the easiest one for the Republicans to attack so it came up first, but it's by far not the only one. Jehovah's Witnesses are morally opposed to blood transfusion, ultra-Orthodox Jews are opposed to organ transplants, and Christian Scientists are opposed to just about every medical procedure. Should I be denied a blood transfusion (or required to pay the disastrously high out of pocket cost, which is almost as bad) just because my boss doesn't like them? This is a bad precedent to set.

    6. Re:I for one have new hope... by microbox · · Score: 2

      Actually, Issa wants the government to not be involved in the bedroom: i.e. not to have the government fund their contraceptives, or, rather, to force religious organizations to provide them (which contradicts religious principles).

      Well, this is a health issue -- according to health /experts/, like doctors. As for "forcing" religious organisations -- nobody is forcing them to do anything. The government /does/ give them wheelbarrows of cash. Talk about a sense of entitlement.

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    7. Re:I for one have new hope... by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Like it or not, you are paying for the sex lives of others. The poor have sex, and they go to hospitals to give birth. When they can't pay, who do you think pays? You do.

      The only question is, are you going to pay for a very expensive birth, and the social problems that come from people with few resourses having large families? Or are you going to pay for the birth control that will save you a lot of money in the long run?

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    8. Re:I for one have new hope... by microbox · · Score: 2

      Forget Fluke's arguments. What about the National Institute of Health. You know -- the /EXPERTS/. Of couse, experts are merely ideologues when it comes to political issues. Both liberal and conservative selectively ignore science whenever they see fit.

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    9. Re:I for one have new hope... by elrous0 · · Score: 2

      He's not a hero, he's just another scumbag politician doing the right thing for the wrong reason here. He's a Republican looking to embarrass the President and Dems because he knows the entertainment industry are Democratic supporters. If this bill were something evil the *oil* industry supported, he would be leading the charge for adoption of it.

      *Every* politician is a scumbag. Every. One.

      Yes, that means your guy too.

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    10. Re:I for one have new hope... by tj2 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Don't take this wrong, but you're a fool.

      "Minority", in this case, refers to the fact that she was a witness for the Democratics, the minority part. It has nothing to do with her ethnicity. Try reading the actual article next time. Feel free to ask if the big words confuse you. If all else fails, try looking at a picture of Sandra Fluke and telling us all how you came to the amazing conclusion that she's black. Really, I'd like to know.

      Re: expert witness. Do you consider a random group of *male* religious figures more expert in the area of health care than someone who actually has experience using contraception? I'm curious as to why you're not opposed to their presence at the hearing. Also, I'm pretty sure that anyone affected by a proposed law does (or should) have standing to testify as to how it would affect them.

      Finally, those religious organizations don't seem to have a problem with paying for Viagra prescriptions, which they've been doing for a number of years. I have no proof, but I very strongly suspect that few if any of the recipients of that particular drug only use it when they are having a sexual experience strictly for procreative purposes.

      Despite their efforts at re-framing this as a matter of religious persecution, it's health care. We don't allow people to have juveniles handle rattlesnakes (even if their parent's religion says it's important), and it's okay (or mandatory) to provide medical care to badly injured kids despite Mom & Dad's belief that a little prayer will fix that arterial bleeding right up, so religious belief does not trump the law. The legislation *never* said that a religious organization had to provide it to their members, but had to make it available to their employees. Or do you believe that every employee of the Catholic health services (650+ hospitals) is a member in good standing of the Catholic church?

    11. Re:I for one have new hope... by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, the issue at question here is whether it is right and legal to force religious organizations to act against their conscience, i.e. to provide health insurance that must includes contraceptives

      Of course it is. I have to pay for all sorts of things that violate my conscience. As a matter of fact, the great majority of my tax dollars are spent on things that are absolutely repugnant to my conscience.

      Also, remember what the first amendment says. It doesn't say "religious liberty shall be unrestricted". It says "shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion". Laws that give, e.g., the Catholic church special treatment are laws that respect an establishment of religion.

      Besides, if you really care about religious liberty, what of that of the employees? It's not the personal religious liberty of the Catholics that's at stake, but their ability to force their religion on their employees. As an athiest employed by a Jesuit research institution, I find this every bit as repugnant to my conscience as they must find contraception.

      You wouldn't be in favor of the government forcing vegan restaurant to server meat, would you?

      If serving meat had as great of an effect on public health as providing universal birth control, then absolutely.

      But I suppose it's OK to force people to act against their conscience, because it's for the common good. Right?

      That's the problem! It's for the public good. Why is it that conservatives only object to coercion when the coercion is for the public good? They have no problem forcing people to violate their conscience and pay for harmful wars, or the persecution of Cannabis smokers, etc. But when it comes to a policy that is universally recognized as good for public health, only then do they whine about conscience.

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    12. Re:I for one have new hope... by tbannist · · Score: 2

      You wouldn't be in favor of the government forcing vegan restaurant to server meat, would you? This is very similar, except even more so: this is more like the government forcing the vegans to slaughter the animals on-site, then serve the meat.

      Actually this is exactly like allowing a vegan restaurant to refuse to pay for health insurance that covers heart surgery because they decided their employees shouldn't be eating meat (and thus shouldn't have cholesterol issues).

      The problem with allowing an organization to choose an official religion and use that to determine acceptable health coverage is that you'll find some of the less enlightened businesses are suddenly Christian Science businesses and offer no actual health coverage. It's not right for the employer to force their religious beliefs on the employee. It tramples the employees right to freedom of religious expression.

      The primary message of this issue seems to me to be that employers shouldn't be involved in providing health insurance for employees.

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    13. Re:I for one have new hope... by jmac_the_man · · Score: 4, Informative
      Here's a BETTER citation, for what ACTUALLY happened. http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/gop-dems-played-games-over-sandra-fluke/408036 In short, the Republicans decided on having this hearing, so they told the Democrats it was happening and asked the Democrats who to call as a witness. Being the minority party, they get one witness. The rule is that the Democrats had until three days before the hearing to come up with their witness so they have time to prepare questions and whatnot. The day before the hearing, the Democrats say that they want two witnesses, Rev. Barry Lynn, head of Americans for Separation of Church and State, and Fluke. The Republicans say they can't have both, so they pick Rev. Lynn. Then the Democrats tried to switch their choice back to Fluke, and THAT what was denied.

      Issa would have let her testify if the Democrats had given the committee time to prepare questions to ask her, like they were supposed to.

    14. Re:I for one have new hope... by jmac_the_man · · Score: 4, Informative

      Let's not forget that she was the oppositions ONLY witness at that hearing. Darrell Issa was only interested in shutting down debate. Shame on him.

      The Democrats had originally asked for Rev. Barry Lynn (head of Americans United for Separation of Church and State) to be invited, and the Republicans invited him. The Democrats changed their minds and told Lynn not to show up, because they'd rather make an issue out of Fluke being denied. Shame on you.

      A female student at university is exactly the kind of person who is going to be most affected by government policies on birth control. That's exactly the kind of person you want lots of input from.

      Fluke is a 30 year old woman. She lives in a $500,000 house, which she can afford because she has a career as a liberal agitator. She went to Georgetown specifically because she wanted to hassle the Catholic institution over the teachings of the Church on birth control. She's EXACTLY the kind of woman who should be paying for her own birth control.

    15. Re:I for one have new hope... by jmac_the_man · · Score: 2

      Actually, there were two women that testified to the panel that day. They weren't in the room when the idiot Democrats pulled their little stunt because they were scheduled to testify in the afternoon, and so didn't come until lunchtime.

    16. Re:I for one have new hope... by brianerst · · Score: 2

      It's kind of unfortunate that the whole Rush Limbaugh stupidity (almost a tautology there) has skewed the coverage so much. Very few people outside of progressive policy wonks or the backwaters of the right-leaning blogosphere know who Sandra Fluke really is.

      Ezra Klein (Mr. Progressive Policy Wonk for the Post) had a brief write up on Sandra Fluke prior to the controversy. It turns out that she knew about Georgetown's contraceptive policy before she even enrolled (over 3 years ago, long before any contraceptive controversy) and enrolled with the idea of changing the policy. Which has pretty much been her full time job ever since - she was the president of Law Students for Reproductive Justice during this time.

      So, on one level, she's exactly the sort of activist "expert" that both sides invite to these panels, but she was being sold as "just" a student with a story to tell. It's annoying that this kind of stuff goes on. I'm not opposed to activists being on panels - they have immersed themselves in the issues - but I would want that stuff mentioned fairly prominently so I can properly weigh the testimony.

      Ms. Fluke has been politically active for many years - she's a professional activist (not the most unbiased sources, but you can find details here and here). She's not a young law student who got swept up in events (aside from Limbaugh's disgusting comments).

      Tell me your background and give me your data - I'll try to be open minded about both. Just don't play these gotcha games.

    17. Re:I for one have new hope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      > ultra-Orthodox Jews are opposed to organ transplants

      No, we are opposed to those specific organ transplants where the current medical definition of death is not consistent with our traditional definition of death AND the organ must be harvested quickly after death. (That is, we consider the situation to be murdering the donor.) We are not opposed to kidney transplants (as the donor is still alive) or cornea transplants (as the death-to-harvest duration is not critical).

    18. Re:I for one have new hope... by guises · · Score: 2

      The only question is, are you going to pay for a very expensive birth, and the social problems that come from people with few resourses having large families? Or are you going to pay for the birth control that will save you a lot of money in the long run?

      No, you only pay in the first case, not the second. Contraception is entirely covered by the insurance company (at no cost to you), and it doesn't even raise your premiums because, as you say, it saves the insurance company money in the long term.

    19. Re:I for one have new hope... by Hatta · · Score: 2

      For that matter, what is the government forcing Georgetown to do? Absolutely nothing. It's only prohibiting them from forbidding their insurance carriers to offer contraceptive coverage. The only thing the law requires from Georgetown is inaction.

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    20. Re:I for one have new hope... by steppedleader · · Score: 2

      What the hell is it with this BS where people keep talking about Fluke being 30 years old as though that disqualifies her from speaking about herself as a student? I'm 30 and I'm a grad student -- big deal. Every female law student is a woman. There a few if any teenage girls in law school -- you have to have a bachelors before you can even apply, after all. Also, so what if she's rich? She wasn't testifying only about herself -- she was acting as an advocate for those who are not so well off. That is a perfectly reasonable thing for a law student to do, since that is often a part of what lawyers do.

      If people want to counter the substance of Fluke's argument, then they should do so. Simply claiming she's a grown woman and acting like that renders her incapable of also being a student is a red herring and and very stupid one at that. Not to mention it insultingly implies that all female students are just little girls.

    21. Re:I for one have new hope... by tj2 · · Score: 2

      Okay, so is it okay to say "We pay less for blacks, Jews and other undesirables"? Answer the question.

      And if health care for employees is a scam, what else fits in your definition? Food safety laws? Child labor laws? Any regulation at all? Or is it just that smart/rich/connected people "deserve" health care, and poor/uneducated/unlucky people should suffer and die if they "choose" to get sick? How is it a scam?

      I don't know you, but your posts seem to indicate that you like or approve of the idea that health is reserved to those who can afford it, and that we as a society have no interest in trying to insure that our citizens have access to basic health care. I believe that everyone should have access to such basic items as prescriptions, emergency care (already in place in the U.S.), necessary continuing care like physical therapy and chemotherapy, and access to transplant lists, etc. Reconstructive surgery for accident/burn victims, or those scarred by disease. And of course preventative care. Lack of free preventative care is the #1 cause of rising health care costs. It's like code: the earlier you find and fix the problem, the less it costs.

      Botox, breast implants (excepting cases like mastectomies), other cosmetic items - buy it yourself if you want it that badly. Not greatly enthused by lap-band and other bariatric costs, but will to pay them if it means less medical costs down the road. Some things like gender reassignment surgery are harder to call: one the one hand, it seems elective, on the other I can't imagine someone without a serious psychological need for it ever pursuing such a radical option. In any event, it's rare enough that the costs disappear into the noise.

  3. My comment is thus by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This agreement was written by the U.S. entertainment industry. It was written by them with one, and only one, purpose in mind: to advance the interests of their own industry at the expense of the freedoms of every other group and citizen in every country that signs it. It was secured in the U.S. by the open bribery of the U.S. Congress and President. It has been foisted on the rest of the world through the hostile use of U.S. economic might, in illegal secret negotiations that violate the laws of almost every country involved. It only serves to harm the international reputation of the U.S. and its citizenry at the expense of the interests of one industry.

    It should be soundly rejected by all remaining free counties.

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    1. Re:My comment is thus by HarrySquatter · · Score: 4, Informative

      This agreement was written by the U.S. entertainment industry.

      No it was originally written by the entertainment industries of both the US and Japan and then the Canadian and EU entertainment industries joined in. I know it's popular to blame all such things entirely on the US but there is just as much complicity from other countries in these treaties than these one-dimensional criticisms would lead you to believe.

    2. Re:My comment is thus by Hentes · · Score: 2

      The European entertainment industry is owned by American companies. Although you are right about Japan, Sony plays a major part in these legislations.

    3. Re:My comment is thus by AdamJS · · Score: 2

      The Canadian entertainment industry is literally a subsidiary of the American entertainment industries.

  4. Re:Can't get a law, try a treaty... by grantus · · Score: 2

    Obama administration supports ACTA.

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  5. Re:Can't get a law, try a treaty... by HarrySquatter · · Score: 4, Informative

    Both sides are bought and paid for by Big IP and Wall Street. This is why you saw virtually 0 votes against the DMCA (unanimous consent in the Senate and virtually no opposition in the House) and why many of the sponsors and co-sponsors of these Pro-IP bills are Republicans (lest you forget the originator of the DMCA in the House was Republican Howard Cobel, SOPA was introduced to the House by Republican Lamar Smith, etc). And also the RIAA CEO and Chairman from 2003 to 2011 was a long time staffer to various Republicans for 26 years before taking the RIAA CEO position.

  6. Obama SIGNED ACTA... WTF? by LostCluster · · Score: 2

    Okay, this may have me holding my nose and filling in the oval next to Romney or Gingrich in November.... Obama signed ACTA in Janurary 2012 Mr. President, how could you?

    1. Re:Obama SIGNED ACTA... WTF? by savi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because those two certainly won't uphold corporate interests? If you hold your nose and vote for either of them, it won't be taken as a sign that the American people oppose ACTA. It will be taken as a sign that people want more government intrusion in their bedrooms and more rights for corporations. If you want to give more power to the women-are-sluts-and-corporations-are-heroic-people party, don't come crying when the obvious results.

    2. Re:Obama SIGNED ACTA... WTF? by cbeaudry · · Score: 2

      How can you be surprised?

      At what point during his presidency has Obama shown he is anything other than a corporate stooge?

    3. Re:Obama SIGNED ACTA... WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Not that I'm not thoroughly disgusted that he supported this thing... but before we make this one partisan, please note that ACTA was being developed under the prior administration as well (and both were keeping the details secret from the public.)

      In other words, of course a Democrat will rubber-stamp something for Hollywood, but don't trust a Republican to automatically do the right thing on this issue. A ton of them were supporting SOPA too. Make sure they're on record and loudly opposing this stuff like Rep. Issa thankfully is, and keep on them to make sure they aren't just sinking this to bring in their own "save the children" bill to do the same thing.

      Software developers, web designers, and other Internet-connected forces are woefully underrepresented in Congress, whether it's regulations or worker protections, and they don't typically unionize so the Democrats don't seem to have much use for them. A lot go Ron Paul but I'm kind of surprised Republicans don't see this as a group they could reach out to. Especially since it's obsoleting traditional media and Hollywood. I'd rather the Democrats do it, but they seem to think treating Internet users like garbage is the way to go... but then the Republicans will happily screw them over as well by sinking Net Neutrality. No wonder a lot go Ron Paul.

    4. Re:Obama SIGNED ACTA... WTF? by Hatta · · Score: 2

      Please just vote third party. It doesn't matter which. As you realize, both major parties are unacceptable. Voting for one over the other is throwing your vote away. The only vote that matters is a vote for change which simply cannot come from either major party.

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    5. Re:Obama SIGNED ACTA... WTF? by jobiwankanobi · · Score: 2

      Obama, the constitutional law professor, also signed NDAA unlimited detention of United States citizens by the military without trial.

    6. Re:Obama SIGNED ACTA... WTF? by the+linux+geek · · Score: 2

      Apparently the Libertarian Party had ballot access in almost every state in 2008, and I assume the same will be true this year.

      http://www.lp.org/ballot-access

    7. Re:Obama SIGNED ACTA... WTF? by Hatta · · Score: 2

      Voting for the third party is the only thing that can work. Voting for either major party only ensures that the two party hegemony can continue forever. That is throwing your vote away.

      On the other hand, if each major party starts losing elections because of third party voters that gives the major parties motivation to address electoral reform.

      find who is the most evil guy and vote for the guy who is viable (sigh, sorry, but you know what I mean) and then vote his/her way. ie, vote to make sure the most evil guy does not get in. voting 3rd party does split that and can work against you.

      The problem with that is when you have one guy who is 98% evil, and one guy that is 99% evil. Sure, you can keep the 99% evil guy out, but you're still voting for extreme levels of evil.

      On the other hand you can realize that it really doesn't matter that much whether the president is 98% or 99% evil. What really matters is getting someone who is 50% or less evil a real chance. That won't happen as long as we keep falling for the good cop/bad cop routine.

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  7. MOD PARENT DOWN... yeah, it's me again by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Informative

    As I discovered looking for Obama's stand on the issue, the "rogue diplomat" who signed ACTA is the PotUS himself. This makes no sense...

    1. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN... yeah, it's me again by grantus · · Score: 2

      Obama administration has been pretty consistent in supporting strong copyright laws. The only real change was when it appeared to express concerns about SOPA and PIPA, and even that statement wasn't definitive.

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    2. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN... yeah, it's me again by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Informative

      May just have something to do with the fact that the entertainment industry is one of Obama's biggest campaign contributors (or, as anyone else would call them, "bribers").

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    3. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN... yeah, it's me again by Creepy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If you RTFA, one of the concerns was that the President approved it, bypassing congress by an executive decision. Both Republicans and Democrats have been doing this a lot since Reagan's term in office. If you can't beat congress, Executive Order around it.

      So far I haven't seen as many major of issues as I saw reading PIPA, but there are some vague areas. Only at page 2, though :P

    4. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN... yeah, it's me again by peragrin · · Score: 3, Informative

      Democrats. -- entertainment industry

      Republicans military industrial complex

      Wall street both

      The other 95% of Americans well someone has to pay all the above people.

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    5. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN... yeah, it's me again by guises · · Score: 2

      It's rhetoric - Issa is a republican congressman trying to smear Obama. He's right in this case, but Issa is by no means a champion of virtue in general.

    6. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN... yeah, it's me again by hemo_jr · · Score: 2

      Obama support of ACTA is contradicted by his statement against SOPA/PIPA:

      ".Any provision... must be transparent and designed to prevent overly broad private rights of action that could encourage unjustified litigation that could discourage startup businesses and innovative firms from growing"

      His continued support of ACTA is hypocritical because, clearly, ACTA is designed to do exactly that.

  8. MOD THIS ONE DOWN TOO by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Informative

    Where was I January 29.... that's the day Obama signed ACTA and now we've only got the Senate remaining for a chance to keep the ball out of the end zone.

    1. Re:MOD THIS ONE DOWN TOO by Sarius64 · · Score: 2

      Whoa mate! No facts allowed here! We're all scientists and engineers with no agendas or political influences! Besides, Obama is allowed to discriminate because all the guilt he generates is more important than anything; lives included.

  9. reading it will just piss me off but I will do so. by DynamoJoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So a republican wishing to jab Obama does the right thing by posting a secret treaty online. And he's a California republican as well - land of the Entertainment Industry. Does this count as a good thing or a bad thing? I'm thinking it's both but it works out for the citizens so it's a net good despite potential partisan motivations.

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  10. Two faced sludge by mapkinase · · Score: 2

    Tries to stop government from demanding Open Access to scientific publications sponsored by government.

    How much Elsevier is paying you, Darrell?

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  11. My comment on ACTA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Opening Paragraph - "The Parties to this Agreement"
    This chapter establishes the tone of the treaty and from the beginning obfuscates the differences between actual property/trademarks (and their centuries of legal baggage) and the relatively new concept of intellectual property and copyright infringement. it also emphases focus on the digital world and copyright. The treaty itself offers few guidelines in respect to protecting citizens from specifically dangerous counterfeit products, making no differentiations based on physical safety, low quality counterfeits.

    Also introduced here is the concept of balance of the the rights and interests of the relevant right holders, service providers, and users. This is a common talking point of the media lobby, and is used often to justify increasing the rights of IP holders at the expense of the rights of internet operators and citizens fundamental rights to free speech, privacy. The language is crafted to imply a sense of fairness and balance, however, civil liberties and human rights are enshrined at the highest levels in law. Weather the ideology of Intellectual Property should hold equal standing should be an issue of vigorous debate and not an issue to be taken at face value.

    Article 5 part (l)
    Right holder is defined in the treaty as including "includes a federation or an association having the legal standing to assert rights in intellectual property". it's worth mention that this agreement is designed primarily to hold these organisations interests ahead of individuals creative rights holders.

    Article 8: INJUNCTIONS
    "Each Party shall provide that, in civil judicial proceedings concerning the enforcement of intellectual property rights, its judicial authorities have the authority to issue an order against a party to desist from an infringement, and inter alia, an order to that party or, where appropriate, to a third party over whom the relevant judicial authority exercises jurisdiction, to prevent goods that involve the infringement of an intellectual property right from entering into the channels of commerce."

    This definition is vague and very much open to interpretation. What goods are we talking about here? physical goods like VCRs, Cassette recorders, DVD burners, or even computers? Software goods that allow the copying of home videos and music production, Real player, Adobe Premier, etc? or even goods in the form of packages by internet service providers, would providing access to a means of a communications channel to the internet, through which copyright infringement might occur count as providing goods that involve copyright infringement?

    This kind of uncertainty is often passed down while making local law, and opens individuals and small business to the threat of defending themselves from injunctions, involving expensive legal fees.

    Article 9: DAMAGES
    This is a tricky section, paragraphs 1 and 2 are presented as mild suggestions of damages, but paragraph 3 states that these suggestions must be implemented as an alternative at the request of the rights holder (defined earlier as media companies). This to me requires participants of ACTA to sign into effective law, the myth that every single illegal download of a copyrighted work represents a lost sale and that the right holder should be compensated as such. In reality this is not the case, and there are several conflicting studies carried out by interest groups and independent researchers around this topic.
    This topic is important as you will see later, as an individual downloader of a single song can be classified legally as a mass distributor of the same song and charged for tens of thousands of lost sales as a result. This is what happened in the US thousands of times over since the introduction of the DMCA act, on which ACTA is based.

    Article 10: OTHER REMEDIES
    This article has huge impact on on physical copyright infringement liability because of it's vagueness, there is no reference to the suitability of the product or regard of if it's fitness for

  12. Re:reading it will just piss me off but I will do by Sarius64 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Your smugness smells like the shitpile it appears. If you knew anything about Darrell Issa you would understand that Hollywood did not elect him. Hollywood is funneling money to Obama. You should pull your head out of your ass sometime and at least try to research your own bias.

  13. How about this? by Idou · · Score: 4, Informative

    This agreement was written by the global entertainment industry in order to advance their own interests at the expense of the freedoms that make a modern democracy possible. It was secured in the U.S. by the open bribery of the U.S. Congress and President. It has been foisted on the rest of the world through the hostile use of U.S. economic might, in illegal secret negotiations that violate the laws of almost every country involved.

    This single agreement represents the undermining of thousands of years worth of social evolution, and those in public office who support it should be immediately dismissed, criminally charged, and incarcerated for their remaining years on this Earth.

    Changelog:
    elrous0 - original comment
    Idou - revised to blame global entertainment and added some action items

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  14. Sandra Fluke by Oxford_Comma_Lover · · Score: 2

    The first is that the "story" Fluke wanted to tell was a personal anecdote (hardly fit material for a discussion, unless you are attempting an emotional appeal... which again, is not exactly what we want our laws to be based one).

    Of course personal anecdotes are fit material for discussion when you are trying to determine the effect of a policy. A policy-maker should consider the worst part of a policy. Here, a girl had a cyst the size of a tennis ball form on her ovary because of the former policy, needed surgery and lost the ovary, and went into early menopause--all because an insurance policy *that was supposed to cover* birth conrol for non-contraceptive purposes regularly makes it almost impossible for people to get that birth control. Ms. Fluke was there to share that story and other stories. The men were religious people (e.g. priests) there to testify about their faith. Neither one is particularly scientific, but a policy maker should listen to both.

    In addition, Ms. Fluke shared some polling data collected on an affected campus.

    Second, they put the fact that she was a minority in the headline (as if that was the issue) when clearly at least one of the witnesses was already black (so, not the actual issue).

    There have been over seven thousand stories about this. You are saying there is a problem with one headline? And even if the differences were as you say, it could easily be explained because (1) she was trying to testify for the minority party in the House, and the minority party had no other witnesses, or (2) she was the only woman to testify in the morning, and being black doesn't make one a woman.

    And finally, since when was a student at a university considered an expert witness on anything like this? Seriously. A professor, sure. A random person they happened to find in a university with a (no doubt) heart wrenching story?

    A professor is not necessarily an expert, nor is a student necessarily a non-expert. Here, you're talking about a student who has a passion on a subject, who has researched it extensively, and who has had many stories shared with her by people who have been affected by it. That makes her an expert, especially compared to Congress, which has just taken up the issue and does not have anywhere near the same level of experience with it.

    I'm sorry, but she doesn't actually have any standing to testify.

    Um, no. One needs standing in order to bring a lawsuit. One does not need standing in order to testify before Congress.

    I can demonstrate that with an easy (ridiculous) example: have a white person testify that black people beat him up, at a hearing to pass a law to throw all black people in jail. Does that testimony offer any credible reason to pass the law? No, and neither does Fluke's.

    I fail to see how having a black person testify to that would make the law any more legitimate. Your analogy fails because you chose a law which necessarily would note be open for debate. How about a law prohibiting the sale of condoms without a prescription? Should women be able to testify who were forced to have abortions because of the law?

    Actually, Issa wants the government to not be involved in the bedroom: i.e. not to have the government fund their contraceptives, or, rather, to force religious organizations to provide them (which contradicts religious principles).

    It's just not that simple. The religious organization needs to set the Cost of Attendance, which is the amount students can borrow. The CoA covers insurance purchased through the University. That insurance does not include contraceptive coverage, and discriminates against people who try to use contraceptive drugs for other medical needs. The University already provides contraceptive coverage to its employees. This is not a question of forcing the university or taxpayer to provide contraceptive coverage; it is a case of stopping the University from preventing students from getting contraception coverage by the manner in which it arranges financial aid and insurance coverage.

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  15. Arrest that pirate! by forkfail · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He's posting copyrighted material on the internet!

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  16. Re:reading it will just piss me off but I will do by forkfail · · Score: 2
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