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LED's Efficiency Exceeds 100%

New submitter Paul Fernhout writes "Physicists from MIT claim to have demonstrated that an LED can emit more optical power than the electrical power it consumes. Researchers suggest this LED acts like a heat pump somehow (abstract). Is it true that 230% efficient LEDs seem to violate first law of thermodynamics?"

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  1. They must have used the wrong cable by s_p_oneil · · Score: 5, Funny

    They must have used the wrong cable, causing the light to go faster than C and mess with their readings.

    1. Re:They must have used the wrong cable by masternerdguy · · Score: 4, Funny

      They could have reversed the polarity of the diode causing a 100% change in efficiency.

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    2. Re:They must have used the wrong cable by jd · · Score: 4, Funny

      They could have reversed the polarity of the neutron flow, causing the LED to be coupled to the singularity driving the Time Lords' TARDISes.

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    3. Re:They must have used the wrong cable by royallthefourth · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ah! Monster cables are good for something after all.

    4. Re:They must have used the wrong cable by Alter_3d · · Score: 5, Funny

      They must have used the wrong cable, causing the light to go faster than C and mess with their readings.

      It was obviously a Denon AKDL1 Dedicated Link Cable

    5. Re:They must have used the wrong cable by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought you had to reverse the tachyon polarity.

      Now I'm all confused.

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    6. Re:They must have used the wrong cable by JWW · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thats too true.

      Where C = Cost.

    7. Re:They must have used the wrong cable by pablomme · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nothing can go faster than C. Except Fortran, of course.

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  2. Obligatory Simpsons Quote by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Funny

    "In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"

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  3. against known laws? by alienzed · · Score: 3, Funny

    Definitely GPS timing error.

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  4. Re:Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    HOLY SHIT ITS A ZPM!!!!

  5. Re:Combine with a greater than 80% solar cell by masternerdguy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Global warming to the rescue!

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  6. Kvothe did it first by ShakaUVM · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's a good example. The hub of a wagon wheel will be warm to the touch. That heat comes from the motion of the wheel. A sympathist can make the energy go the other way, from heat into motion. I pointed to the lamp. Or from heat into light.

    There was an art to choosing your projects in the Fishery. It didn't matter if you made the brightest sympathy lamp or the most efficient heat-funnel in the history of Artificing. Until someone bought it, you wouldn't make a bent penny of commission.

  7. There is some confusion here by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Funny

    as most people think Light Emitting Diode when they hear LED.

    But in this experiment they are referring to a Large Entropic Dilemma.

    So the results make perfect sense.

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  8. Re:There *is* someone who can read! by X0563511 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Welcome to slashdot, "enjoy" your stay.

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  9. Re:No. by a_nonamiss · · Score: 4, Funny

    You must be new here...

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  10. Re:No. by Enderandrew · · Score: 5, Funny

    Read the article? Heck, I didn't finish the headline. As soon as I realized it didn't mention iPads I went straight to the comments to argue we should instead discuss iPads.

    Why don't we have iPad 4 speculation yet?

    1. I for one welcome our new iPad 4 overlords and their app that allows you to put hot grits on Natalie Portman and disguise it in a bad car analogy.
    2. Ask if it runs Linux, and then cite another failed year of Linux on the desktop.
    3. ???
    4. Profit.

    What were we talking about again?

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  11. Re:No by Surt · · Score: 4, Funny

    The fun trick will be to point this at a 45% efficient photovoltaic panel to generate the electricity.

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  12. Re:No. by Dynedain · · Score: 5, Funny

    So if you had enough of these, you could air condition your house with them?
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  13. Re:Maybe by durrr · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's tapping into the grid! Awsome!

    Now someone go hook that LED up to a 50% efficient enclosing PV panel.

  14. Re:No. by Anthony+Mouse · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah, but man, a it's a completely solid state heat pump that dumps waste heat as usable light - now that's something. Just imagine: every server, instead of needing cooling, can have this stuck to the heatsink and mounted on a tall pole. No more datacenter, we'll have datapoles, and our streets will be full of them :)

    You're not thinking like an evil genius. You've got a 10MW data center. You have a way to convert the heat load into light. And now you want to distribute it all over and make street lights out of it?

    Whatever. I want my huge frackin' laser.

  15. Re:Maybe by squidflakes · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, you're saying that future computers, if we don't want to spring for fans or liquid cooling, will have to be lit up like a modder's case?

    I guess that's great if you like your server rooms to also double as sweet rave parties.

  16. Re:No by P-niiice · · Score: 5, Funny

    run it through the faster than light cables too

  17. I always knew... by twistedsymphony · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... that adding LEDs to stuff made it cooler.

  18. Re:Maybe by squidflakes · · Score: 5, Funny

    How the hell are you supposed to sleep in a server room like that?

  19. Re:Maybe by geekoid · · Score: 5, Funny

    If I controlled all the energy, I would have all the power!

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  20. Re:No by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Monster Cable TOSLink?

  21. Re:Can I place my order... by zzsmirkzz · · Score: 4, Funny

    It sounds like it violates the 2nd and 3rd laws of thermodynamics if not the first.

    The first law of thermodynamic is...you do not talk about thermodynamics :)

  22. Re:LED Cooling by Dan+Dankleton · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does that mean that in future the lights will stay on when you close the fridge door? That destroys everything I thought I knew!

  23. Re:Maybe by mjjochen · · Score: 3, Funny

    With power comes responsibility. So it's your fault that my wife won't let me replace the living room furniture with that awesome bean bag & lava lamp setup from KMart! Oh, wait. He said "would have all the power. . ." Dammit.

  24. Re:Maybe by SnarfQuest · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did they check to see if their time servers are synced properly? Maybe the power is time-travelling from a previous test.

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  25. Re:Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    OK, let me get my 50% efficient PV panel. Just a minute, I left it over by my unicorn.

  26. In THIS house... by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Will LED become next generation of cooling appliance?

    "That's a bright idea, he said coldly."

    Also, heat-activated lighting. Also, if you can suck heat from the environment to make light, and then pump the light to solar cells to make electricity, you have a heat-to-electric converter.

    Maxwell's demon must be rolling over in his randomly displaced bed right about now.

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