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Police Planning New Raid On The Pirate Bay

An anonymous reader writes "TorrentFreak reports that Swedish authorities are gearing up for another raid on the servers of The Pirate Bay. The site was raided once before, in 2006, and the evidence gathered at that time was sufficient to convict its founders. 'The authorities have obtained warrants to snoop around in sensitive places and two known anti-piracy prosecutors, Frederick Ingblad and Henrik Rasmusson, are said to be involved. Employing a little psychological warfare aimed at putting the investigators off-balance, the Pirate Bay team has chosen to make the news public to make the authorities aware that they are not the only ones being watched.'"

146 comments

  1. Magnet links? by Hatta · · Score: 1

    I don't use TPB much so this is the first I've heard of that. How is magnet link support in rtorrent these days?

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    1. Re:Magnet links? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Non-existent.

      It'd be nice if there was a command line utility that could take a magnet link and generate a valid torrent file from it for clients that don't have magnet support.

    2. Re:Magnet links? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Magnet links work perfectly in rtorrent, they actually work even better than torrent files, because rtorrent does not waste time trying to connect to dead trackers.

    3. Re:Magnet links? by Ogi_UnixNut · · Score: 2

      Works perfectly! I'm happy to say :)

      I don't remember when they added support but it must be about a year by now. I pretty much only use magnet links with rtorrent. I don't know exactly which version it is (it came with Debian) but I can find out if you like?

    4. Re:Magnet links? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could you elaborate? I have them working, sorta, but demonoid baffles me....

    5. Re:Magnet links? by danomac · · Score: 4, Informative

      Strange you should say that, works fine for me.

      rtorrent-0.8.9/libtorrent-0.12.9

      It took them a while to add it, but it is there. (No, this wasn't compiled with a patch, like you had to do early on...)

    6. Re:Magnet links? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually, it supports downloading from magnet links just fine, just not seeding the .torrent file. See this old ticket: http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/ticket/2100.

    7. Re:Magnet links? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They work in the sense "Copy link location", press Backspace in rtorrent, paste link, press Enter, wait till it downloads. I assume some recent rtorrent release, obviously.

      Relevant config lines in .rtorrent.rc are the following. Maybe some of them are already default, I didn't check.

      session = /home/xxx/.rtorrent
      peer_exchange = yes
      dht = auto

    8. Re:Magnet links? by knuthin · · Score: 2
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    9. Re:Magnet links? by Rakshasa-sensei · · Score: 5, Informative

      I've never really used magnet links that much so there's bound to be some issues, however due to the TPB change I'll be looking closer at that code in the near future. There's seems to be some magnet links that aren't supported properly...

      In any case please do realize that there's no 'they' in rtorrent, at the best I had one guy sending me patches for DHT support and various other stuff. Pretty much a one man project, so I'll mainly be focusing on stuff certain users pay me to implement.

    10. Re:Magnet links? by wanzeo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The Pirate Bay's days are numbered. With the move to magnet links, their entire "collection" takes about 100MB. That is small enough that every user can have a copy that slowly updates between connected users. For an up and coming implementation of this, see Tribler.

      If all p2p switched to a similar method, the only targets for authorities would be IP addresses in the swarm. Right now that rarely happens, but it could very easily become commonplace if there are no big targets left.

    11. Re:Magnet links? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even easier in KTorrent (KDE's torrent app)... I just click on the magnet link in Chrome, KTorrent pops up with it, and I'm going. One less step than the .torrent files even. I'm surprised if you really have to do more than that with another setup, honestly...

    12. Re:Magnet links? by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Since my programming skills are definitely inadequate, I just donated $20 to you instead.

      Thank you for a great piece of software, screen+rtorrent will never be beat, as far as I'm concerned.

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    13. Re:Magnet links? by Rakshasa-sensei · · Score: 4, Informative

      The latest version (to be released soon) will be much more aggressive at contacting trackers, so the dead tracker issue is gone.

    14. Re:Magnet links? by tlhIngan · · Score: 3, Informative

      It depends. A magnet link can store a LOT of information - it can be anywhere from a hash to a complete torrent file in a link. Or it can be a redirect to a different site hosting the torrent file.

      It's actually important to know the difference because one requires the use of DHT, while the others simply point the torrent client elsewhere to fetch the torrent file.

      Heck, TPB stopped their trackers years ago - but that didn't mean they went completely DHT - they just used a lot of other trackers out there

      All TPB's doing is really turning themselves into a google for torrents.

    15. Re:Magnet links? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Didn't they try that with gnutella?

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    16. Re:Magnet links? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can compile magnet support into rtorrent. You can also use the command line interface for Transmission, which works great for magnet links.

    17. Re:Magnet links? by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 1

      Would you consider adding Flattr along Paypal to the donation options? I'd rather not support Paypal, but I would like to donate.

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    18. Re:Magnet links? by Rakshasa-sensei · · Score: 2

      I've added flattr to my email and github account.

      Haven't tested it nor do I really have much exposure to that avenue of donations.

    19. Re:Magnet links? by danomac · · Score: 1

      In any case please do realize that there's no 'they' in rtorrent,

      Sorry about that, I had thought there were two developers on it.

    20. Re:Magnet links? by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      If all p2p switched to a similar method, the only targets for authorities would be IP addresses in the swarm. Right now that rarely happens, but it could very easily become commonplace if there are no big targets left.

      If all p2p switched to a similar method, then authorities would simply have to wait until there was nobody left in the swarm. I don't believe any existing clients provide any mechanism to connect to a DHT swarm without having a tracker to point you to at least one client, and the approach TPB is moving to doesn't point you to a tracker/torrent.

      In any case, I'd never use a p2p that required uploading data to the swarm using my own IP. Right now alternative options exist (even for bittorrent), though none of those options support the bittorrent DHT.

    21. Re:Magnet links? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      They may end up moving to i2p or freenet before its all over, but i disagree their days are numbered. They will adapt and only their public facing days are in question. ..

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    22. Re:Magnet links? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would also be nice if rtorrent would add support for simulated uploads that are reported to tracker. That way you aren't actually uploading anything, and you save your own bandwidth and avoid most of the legal problems. This of course applies more to private trackers - on public trackers it doesn't matter so much as there's no stats, so you can just completely disable uploading.

    23. Re:Magnet links? by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 2

      So you want to not commit the crime of copyright infringement and instead go for the trio :
      1) purposefully deceiving law enforcement
      2) accessory to copyright infringement (same as linking to copyrighted content)
      3) fraud (towards other downloaders, and copyright owners, granted not much chance of enforcement here)

      And of course, you want to generally be a dickhead, breaking the bittorrent protocol, sabotaging others for your own advantage. And of course, this might be a viable strategy for a few people, but the more people do this, the less viable it becomes. Of course, large amounts of people helping is just what bittorrent depends on.

      You might lose a bit of popularity ...

    24. Re:Magnet links? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And of course, this might be a viable strategy for a few people, but the more people do this, the less viable it becomes.

      Well, that's pretty much same as with piracy, no? If only a few people did it (like in the old days) no one would care because it would not affect sales so much. But now they need to do something because everyone is pirating left and right.

    25. Re:Magnet links? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And of course, you want to generally be a dickhead, breaking the bittorrent protocol, sabotaging others for your own advantage. And of course, this might be a viable strategy for a few people, but the more people do this, the less viable it becomes. Of course, large amounts of people helping is just what bittorrent depends on.

      As someone who used to be part of a niche private tracker a few years ago, what the GP is proposing is a known problem and already has counter measures. Specifically, any client which has a "lie to tracker" option is banned from the tracker (When the client contacts the site to access the announce [get peer list], the server checks the client name and version; a black/white list will then reject any such client). If you get clever and patch an open source client that is normally allowed to add such a feature, you can still be detected by the admin opening the torrent and trying to pull data just from the user under suspicion, if the amount downloaded doesn't match what was reported to the tracker or the request to upload always fails then you get banned [this can be automated with enough work].

    26. Re:Magnet links? by wanzeo · · Score: 1

      Care to share some of those options? I would be genuinely interested.

    27. Re:Magnet links? by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      Well, I2P is the most obvious option, considering that they actually encourage P2P and it works pretty well. The only problem with I2P is that nobody uses it, so good luck finding seeds/peers. It even supports magnet links, but again only for peers in I2P.

      The other option is tor, which has the advantage of working with regular internet-based bittorrent clients which means there are tons of peers. The downside of tor is that most clients are not well-designed, so you need to make sure that your client does not know your internet IP address, and that it cannot get past the proxy, otherwise chances are your client software is going to broadcast your IP via side-channels. The other downside of tor is that it is NATed, so it is limited to outgoing connections only - it can still upload to other peers that are connected to a tracker and which are not NATed themselves. DHT does not work with bittorrent over tor, as it is UDP-only, but there is no reason that somebody couldn't make DHT work via TCP which would solve that problem (again with the limitation that only non-NATed peers could be reached). Oh, and anytime a tor developer thinks you're using bittorrent a kitten dies (not that they can be too sure).

      I'm not sure if Freenet counts as P2P or not. It doesn't support connections over the network, but everything on Freenet is distributed anyway, based on popularity. It shares many of the advantages and disadvantages of I2P.

    28. Re:Magnet links? by arisvega · · Score: 1

      How is magnet link support in rtorrent these days?

      I admit I though of the same some time ago-- is it because we are lead to believe that everything needs to be doable by console?

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    29. Re:Magnet links? by thejynxed · · Score: 1

      Freenet also shares the major disadvantage of child porn being rather openly distributed on it with no way for you to prevent it from being cached on your machine.

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  2. Magnet Links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good timing, with the magnet link only deployment of torrent files...

    1. Re:Magnet Links by BitZtream · · Score: 0

      Right, because magnet links really change anything.

      You realize that instead of storing the data in the form of a normal file, all you're doing is storing the same data in the form of a URL ... right?

      The pirate bay still stores the EXACT SAME DATA on the servers, its just presented to you with a new non-standard format.

      Magnet links could be accomplished without any new code using data URLs already before anyone thought of adding them to a bittorrent client like they were something new and different.

      Magnet links are just an ignorant attempt to skirt around the law by people who don't actually understand the law or what they are doing with the data.

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  3. Shhhh.... by snooz_crash · · Score: 1

    don't tell anyone...

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  4. Move it to .onion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... and let the cops find it first...

    1. Re:Move it to .onion by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Funny

      Unfortunately, the Onion (America's Finest News Source) has been prevented from registering a TLD. Sources suggest their rejection by ICANN was a real tear-jerker.

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    2. Re:Move it to .onion by berashith · · Score: 4, Funny

      booo. too many layers to this joke!

    3. Re:Move it to .onion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I gave you a +1 Funny, but it's not for your post. It's for your signature.

    4. Re:Move it to .onion by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Funny

      I take it you're onionspired, then?

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    5. Re:Move it to .onion by berashith · · Score: 2

      allium is amazed at the lengths people will go to for a pun

    6. Re:Move it to .onion by Reverand+Dave · · Score: 2, Funny

      This whole thread is a real tear-jerker.

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    7. Re:Move it to .onion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be new here.

    8. Re:Move it to .onion by scarboni888 · · Score: 1

      Wow - and I thought *I* had anger issues.... sheesh

  5. Isn't this getting a little silly? by msobkow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now a "news" article essentially amounts to "someone posted a message about someone telling them that someone else said they'd..."

    Are you serious? That chain of "evidence" is worse than most small town gossip!

    And even if it's true -- so what? As convenient as it is, TPB is hardly the only torrent site in the world...

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    1. Re:Isn't this getting a little silly? by erroneus · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is the most significant one, in my opinion. If and when it's gone, it will become something of a symbol of what various governments are willing to do at the demands of the US government which is acting on the demands of the media/content publishers of the U.S.

      The summary is a bit off in its depiction of history. The first raid on TPB resulted in the servers all being returned very quickly as there was nothing illegal about them in their country. There was no evidence collected from their servers that convicted anyone. That they exist and that the people who ran them did so was not in dispute and taking those servers down did nothing to prove anything.

      What was significant and what is missed here is that it displayed perfectly the chain of influence at play. The story behind the first raid was pretty ugly. The raid was not going to happen at first because the police saw that no law was being broken by the site or its operators. Politics somehow overruled the law and the raid occurred. The stuff taken was returned and brought back online within a couple of days because it was all quite illegal. It was the US government's influence which was used to push the Swedish government to step beyond its own laws. And we already know who influences the US government to make them push its influence onto other sovereign nations.

      As this is about to happen again, apparently, goes to show that the Swedish government has no respect for its own laws any more than the US has respect for its own constitution. It's getting to the point where "respect for the law" is the exclusive domain of those who are ruled and not at all for the rulers.

    2. Re:Isn't this getting a little silly? by PReDiToR · · Score: 1

      It isn't about it being the only site that serves up .torrents, it is more about the fact that TPB shoves it right down the throats of those who would oppress them in a very public way.

      Lots of people won't use public trackers, lots of people stay away from hi-vis targets like TPB on principle, but you have to hand it to them, they are trying very hard to make sure that people know that laws bought and paid for by some rich corporations in America aren't set in stone around the world without the titular Governmental Apparatus in other countries ratifying them into law there.

      Fuck the MAFIAA.

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    3. Re:Isn't this getting a little silly? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's getting to the point where "respect for the law" is the exclusive domain of those who are ruled and not at all for the rulers.

      I'm an old and cranky man. but I see no country that exhibits freedom the way we all THOUGHT it would be.

      lies and lies. freedom is a thing that exists for the rich and powerful.

      the sooner we all wake up and see the evil in ALL our governments, the sooner we'll be able to fix this world wide problem.

      its not US, its not england, its not sweden, its not australia. its EVERY place that has humans running things. humans make a nice cozy place for themselves and ensure that things are good for the ruling class and less good for those who are not part of this.

      why is this ever thought of as nationalistic? again, every country is run by people and people have flaws in their nature that lets 'power corrupt'. we've known this forever, haven't we?

      stop believing the propaganda that your country is somehow more free or just than some other. its not true. you only think its true due to brainwashing and the 'us vs them' mentality that countries LOVE to instill in its people.

      respect for law means nothing. if you have the money, you can make laws or side-step them. IN EVERY COUNTRY.

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    4. Re:Isn't this getting a little silly? by number11 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The story behind the first raid was pretty ugly. The raid was not going to happen at first because the police saw that no law was being broken by the site or its operators. Politics somehow overruled the law and the raid occurred. The stuff taken was returned and brought back online within a couple of days because it was all quite illegal. It was the US government's influence which was used to push the Swedish government to step beyond its own laws. And we already know who influences the US government to make them push its influence onto other sovereign nations.

      Which, parenthetically, shows why Julian Assange is so unenthusiastic about being extradited back to Sweden.

    5. Re:Isn't this getting a little silly? by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2

      stop believing the propaganda that your country is somehow more free or just than some other. its not true. you only think its true due to brainwashing and the 'us vs them' mentality that countries LOVE to instill in its people.

      As best I can tell your argument boils down to, "All men are imperfect, so all governments of men will be failures." That's simply not true. Imperfection does not equal failure. Some countries are better governed than others. Declaring them all to be equal is to give the people who abuse power a free pass.

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    6. Re:Isn't this getting a little silly? by Maow · · Score: 1

      [...] It was the US government's influence which was used to push the Swedish government to step beyond its own laws. And we already know who influences the US government to make them push its influence onto other sovereign nations.

      Which, parenthetically, shows why Julian Assange is so unenthusiastic about being extradited back to Sweden.

      I never understood this line of reasoning. I mean the UK has shown repeatedly that it's willing to extradite its own citizens to the US for questionable reasons, why bother going through Sweden?

    7. Re:Isn't this getting a little silly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assuming the Assange case was a set-up by the US government, which isn't beyond the realms of possibility given their history; then the plan was put into action when Assange was in Sweden and it was probably decided it was best to keep going with it even after Assange had gone to the UK, contriving a new reason for him to be charged with a serious offence in the UK may create more suspicion the US government really are out to get him. I suspect the US government would be content with him being incarcerated in a Swedish prison for a significant amount of time if it kept their hands clean (from a public perspective).

      All pure speculation of course, but it at least seems plausible, however I would need more evidence to be convinced of actual US government involvement.

    8. Re:Isn't this getting a little silly? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      > but I see no country that exhibits freedom the way we all THOUGHT it would be.
      Which is what exactly?

      > the sooner we all wake up and see the evil in ALL our governments, the sooner we'll be able to fix this world wide problem.
      Why are YOU _still_ falling for the old energy of "us" vs "them". Divide and conquer is a tactic used to maintain power. Stop falling for it.

      When are you going to grow up and realize:

      a) YOU _are_ the government
      b) "EVERYONE IS the government."

      That is, to use a cliche: The All is the One, the One is the All.

      Blaming others is not a solution -- living an example of HOW you want a government to function IS. If you still need man-made rules to decide what is legal and illegal the problem is one of self-government because you are still ignorant of the symbiosis between one's needs and the needs of the many.

      > stop believing the propaganda that your country is somehow more free or just than some other. its not true.
      Uhm, Hello McFly. You _have_ heard it is Illegal to criticize the King of Thailand. Only an idiot tries to censor his constitutes. At least in the USA it is still perfectly legal to criticize the all offices of government.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Thailand

      Some countries _used_ to have free speech. Some more then others. The USA was founded upon the principles of freedom as long as it didn't trample another person's freedom.

      In some countries it is illegal to criticize another person religion. That is not freedom.

      The problem is not "evil government"
      The problem is not money.
      The problem is not greed.

      The problems are many:

      - If government is to have authority it MUST have accountability.
      - Demand open processes. Petition to stop rider bills.
      - End the nonsense of the 2 party system and focus on problems & solutions.
      - Petition for money to be removed from politics.

      No, the root problem is that the majority just don't give a fuck and want to go back to their "UNreality" shows...

    9. Re:Isn't this getting a little silly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problems are many:

      - If government is to have authority it MUST have accountability.
      - Demand open processes. Petition to stop rider bills.
      - End the nonsense of the 2 party system and focus on problems & solutions.
      - Petition for money to be removed from politics.

      No, the root problem is that the majority just don't give a fuck and want to go back to their "UNreality" shows...

      (Hey, Jennifer Govt, is that you?)
      Hehe.. In MY country we have no such problems:
      People are the government, so they all are accountable to me.
      We have open process... You have no right to secrets from me.
      Nonsensical party systems are obsolete. I rule and party all the time.
      Money has been removed from politics. It all belong$ to me.
      You have to get fucked on a reality show if I say so.

  6. Blocked by BenV666 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since the piratebay IPs are blocked by my ISP these days (and redirect me to http://www.xs4all.nl/geblokkeerd/ ) I have to use a proxy to get around it.
    Here's a link for those of you in the same boat: http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://thepiratebay.se/blog/209

    1. Re:Blocked by madison_hotel · · Score: 1

      Anonymouse is blocked by the sysadmin at work, so I still can't access the blog post. Could somebody please post the text in a comment? Thanks.

    2. Re:Blocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Blog Post:

      New TPB investigation leaked

      TPB is not hosted in -insert country here-, as far as we know. "As far as we know?" you might ask! Yes. TPB is set up in a very special way to make sure that it will stay up. This means that noone really knows exactly where the servers are, but we've made sure to stay out of the United States of Arrogance and some other countries where the governments do not like free speech.

      The only box someone could find is the one in the front, that needs to be public. We have multiple of those, scattered like diarrhea around the world. They contain no storage device, no graphics card. Only a network cable, a cpu and memory. Being nice people, we've put small easters egg into each box though, for the hard work put into finding that public machine! Nothing dangerous though, just funny.

      Even though this means that TPB can never be pin-pointed to a certain country, the Swedish district attorney Fredrik Ingblad initiated a new investigation into The Pirate Bay back in 2010. Information has been leaked to us every now and then by multiple sources, almost on a regular basis. It's an interesting read. We can certainly understand why WikiLeaks wished to be hosted in Sweden, since so much data leaks there. The reason that we get the leaks is usually that the whistleblowers does not agree with what is going on. Something that the governments should have in mind - even your own people does not agree.

      Since our recent move to a .SE domain the investigation has been cranked up a notch. We think that the investigation is interesting considering nothing that TPB does is illegal. Rather we find it interesting that a country like Sweden is being so abused by lobbyists and that this can be kept up. They're using scare tactics, putting pressure on the wrong people, like providers and users. All out of fear from the big country in the west, and with an admiration for their big fancy wallets.

      We're staying put where we are. We're going no-where. But we have a message to hollywood, the investigators and the prosecutors: LOL.

    3. Re:Blocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought you Dutch guys and especially XS4ALL (an ISP originally setup by hackers and phreaks) would certainly be able hold off this blatant violation of Internet freedom. If you have an IP-based block you seem even more fucked than us in .Be, we have a DNS block which is easily subverted. For now...

    4. Re:Blocked by Rakshasa-sensei · · Score: 1

      There's several seedbox providers these days that will help you get around those blocks. (And keep your IP safe from lawsuits)

    5. Re:Blocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All out of fear from the big country in the west, and with an admiration for their big fancy wallets.

      In the west? The USA is even further east than west.

    6. Re:Blocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I bet you its just a DNS block. Try changin you DNS from your ISP to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. No need for proxy.

  7. Re:Very Kill Bill-ish by camperdave · · Score: 0

    American cops have these weird things that I'm not even going to try to describe. Come to think, I would be far less inclined to cross a cop who was armed with a sword than I would a cop with the aforementioned weird stick thingy.

    Tonfa?

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  8. Buy a PirateBay T-shirt by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

    It may soon become unavailable & a piece of history (collector's item). ;-)

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    1. Re:Buy a PirateBay T-shirt by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 1

      Just a thought: will wearing such a T-shirt block you from security cameras?

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    2. Re:Buy a PirateBay T-shirt by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      LOL good one.

      More likely though the Piratebay symbol would get you placed on some Terrorist or SOPA/ACTA/MPAA watch list.

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    3. Re:Buy a PirateBay T-shirt by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      Your comment just got you on the list mister.

      the first rule of the Terrorist or SOPA/ACTA/MPAA watch list is you dont talk about the Terrorist or SOPA/ACTA/MPAA watch list!

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  9. So let's do something about it. by owenferguson · · Score: 5, Informative

    Help with the backup. You can own the entire contents of TPB by downloading just 90MB of magnet links in one torrent here: http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7016365/The_whole_Pirate_Bay_magnet_archive

    1. Re:So let's do something about it. by jellomizer · · Score: 0, Troll

      Or you can use that time to find a real job, so you can pay for the software you want... Or find a free open source version.

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    2. Re:So let's do something about it. by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Nice. Now they just need to build in some versioning, so I can hop on one swarm and stay up to date with the entire catalog.

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    3. Re:So let's do something about it. by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually you use that time to find out how to emigrate to a country that has reaj jobs. Because here in the USA, there are no jobs that pay enough to afford paying for software, music, movies, etc...

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    4. Re:So let's do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell, no. I understand you have no choice but accept a job which takes only a few minutes to get, but please, don't spread your misery all over here. It's disgusting.

    5. Re:So let's do something about it. by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      Slashdot is a tech site... the Economy is booming for tech workers, right here in the USA. I get a job offer out of the blue every couple weeks.

      For the software music and movies... Do you really need those? They sound like frivolousness entertainment to me. Entertainment made my people who work to get paid for their effort. If you cannot afford it... Go without. Or look for a cheaper alternative. By pirating media you are not really making a statement unless you are willing to say I am a cheap bastard and I only get what I can take. If you don't buy the product because is is costing more then you put value to it. Then the companies really get the point more... They monitor the Piracy off their stuff, if they find that it is heavily pirated then they know people like the product, and they find value with it... But pirate channels have given them a spot to get it for free.

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    6. Re:So let's do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [Shrug] Free and open source software is all I've ever downloaded from TPB anyway. Well, that and music and videos seeded by the artists themselves.

      Yes, you can get illegally-distributed stuff there too. That doesn't mean everyone who uses TPB needs to "find a real job" or needs to "pay for the software you want". Idiot.

    7. Re:So let's do something about it. by icebraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For the software music and movies... Do you really need those? They sound like frivolousness entertainment to me.

      Do you really need to post here?

      Entertainment made my people who work to get paid for their effort. If you cannot afford it... Go without.

      Why? Absolutely no one benefits from you going without instead of downloading.

      They monitor the Piracy off their stuff, if they find that it is heavily pirated then they know people like the product, and they find value with it...

      You are using Slashdot, so you clearly find value in it. But would you pay $150/month to use Slashdot? If not, why not?

      Finding value does NOT mean that 1) it's worth to the person whatever the seller is asking for it, 2) the person can afford it.

    8. Re:So let's do something about it. by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      Bah. Humbug. Or as Penn&Teller would say - bullshit. Most movies and TV shows aren't worth paying for anyway. Maybe if there was some way to demand a refund (like you can if you don't like your candybar) but alas there isn't. Therefore I will download the movies/shows FIRST before I go buy them, and thereby avoid wasting my money on crap like Transformers 2.

      Oh and I already use open-source software on my computer. Have not purchased a single program since Office 97. In fact I've been using free software since the 8 bit Atari/Commodore days, with very few actual purchases.

      Heck even my TV is free (antenna). Why give your hard-earned money to the wealthy megacorps when you don't need to? It's bad enough we are forced to do so via those bailouts. If the item is super-good then I'll buy it to support the artists, but not if it's junk or merely mediocre.

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    9. Re:So let's do something about it. by jamstar7 · · Score: 2

      Oh, there are jobs in the US. About 150 million of them, from flipping burgers part time to CEO of General Motors.

      Problem is, there are over 300 million people in the US. Also, the jobs you really want take an advanced degree that takes 5-8 years to get plus will put you in hock to the system for the rest of your life, if you're not connected (part of the 'educational process' of that advanced degree is networking with your fellow elites to keep the Good Ol Boys network alive and kicking) or 'elite'. And unless you're connected, ethnic, or visibly disabled (companies get bonus tax breaks for disabled people), you'll not get that job you want.

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    10. Re:So let's do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Matroska video files that you want, are not available at any price. And in US, even if you buy a shiny disc from which to create the file yourself, reading the disc's plaintext is against the law.

      They don't want want your money.

      And if you defiantly spend your money anyway, they want to prosecute you.

      So WTF does this have to do with getting a job and paying for things? What you're saying would have made a lot of sense in 1996, but the situation has gotten a lot more ridiculous since then.

    11. Re:So let's do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If someone doesn't care if the program contains a virus it doesn't seem like they can be enticed to pay, though I can see how you might think they should pay for it to enhance their masochism.

    12. Re:So let's do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was where you're at a few years back. You're problem is that you see this as a real problem in the first place. It's only a problem for those who either aren't intelligent enough to understand the system, or for those who don't take enough time to understand it so they can use the system to their benefit. I would guess that you fall into the latter category.

      Don't waste your energy playing the victim; use some of your free time investigating how other people have made it. There are so many examples around us that this isn't very difficult. I think you'll find, as I did, that there is very little magic or luck involved. It mostly involves working hard towards a goal, which is why most people fail. They don't want to work hard and they don't have any real goals in the first place.

      Once I did a little investigating and set some goals, everything changed for me financially. My belief is now that anyone with an IQ of 100 or more has the opportunity to do very well in the USA, regardless of race or current socioeconomic status.

    13. Re:So let's do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have not purchased a single program since Office 97.

      Honest question, when did you buy Office 97? Sure, it came out in 1997, but they continued to sell it for years afterwards (I picked up a copy in 2002).

      Another honest question, guessing that does not include the OS that came with any computers you've bought since then?

    14. Re:So let's do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Because free and open source software never is, and cannot be, distributed with magnet files.

    15. Re:So let's do something about it. by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      Nah I think I'll help destroy the MAFIAA instead. Mirrors +1!

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    16. Re:So let's do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "They sound like frivolousness entertainment to me" - Everything in life is frivolousness. Human life has no value outside of the artificial value we give to it. The idea that life has value is best for society. Free access to culture/knowledge is also what is best for society. If you don't want what is best of society, then denying people access to culture like Music is a great way to start, but the best way is to just kill everyone.

      Yes, I just compared copyright to killing people.

    17. Re:So let's do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you know he didn't pirate the OS and build his own computers?

    18. Re:So let's do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually you use that time to find out how to emigrate to a country that has reaj jobs. Because here in the USA, there are no jobs that pay enough to afford paying for software, music, movies, etc...

      I've immigrated to the USA, and got myself a six-figure job. What am I doing wrong?

    19. Re:So let's do something about it. by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      I bought MS Office in 1999 probably, so I could update my resume and create cover letters.

      And no I never purchased any OSes since they already come installed on the machine (just as your phone or car comes pre-installed with its OS). A few years ago when my Windows laptop experienced a failure, rather than go buy Windows, I just installed the free Lightweight Ubuntu Linux.

      It's also worth noting that when you buy a Windows PC it's almost-always cheaper than a bare PC (because of the adware helping to reduce the cost). My last PC only cost me $250 new.

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    20. Re:So let's do something about it. by scarboni888 · · Score: 1

      Hahaha... good one! yeah, we'll get right on that. /snicker.

    21. Re:So let's do something about it. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0
      "The expatriate mentality is a tough thing to explain easily. Any affluent or even middle-class American who renounces the good life of sushi delivery and 500-channel cable television to relocate permanently to some third-world hole usually has to be motivated by a highly destructive personality defect. Either that, or something about home creates psychological demons that in turn create the urge for radical escape."
      -- Mark Ames, _The Exile: Sex, Drugs, And Libel In The New Russia_

      Yeah, go ahead and go to another country. You'll be back in America within a year.

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    22. Re:So let's do something about it. by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      Excellent - now point me to a client that lets me use magnet links without publicizing my IP address and using it to upload data to anybody who asks for it. Right now that exists for torrent files, but not for DHT (largely because DHT is UDP-only).

    23. Re:So let's do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would gladly pay a predefined fee per month for access to all movies/series ever made, sure i could understand that they would delay movies for 3-4 months until being available on a service like that..

      Say 100-150Eur per month ($131-$196 according to google) if it allowed live streaming at any time and ok that i lost all access to it when i stopped paying... Ie a pure rental service like netflix.. But i would like an easy to use STB that i could do everything with...

      I would never spend more than 100-150Euro per month on media, no matter what..
      Some benefits of this would be:
      - Always good quality.
      - Everything available - always.
      - No need for PVR etc, an incentive for the companies since people would continue to pay for both old and new content....
      - Better statistics for producers.. They get paid for each viewing, even if the same user rewatch it..
      - No need to fight over what time a specific series is aired.. It's available at whatever time the viewer wants...
      - Would make series less prone to cancellation if semi-popular since they would not have to fight over the same timeslot..
      - Would allow for more content to be produced since there are no longer any primetime-slots..

      The problem, there are no services like this in most of the world.. Netflix is available in the US but nowhere else... iTunes dont offer tv-series to be purchased where i live.. we have access to Voddler but that just sucks both in content/implementation/cost..

      Normal TV-channels can still exist and make money too since there are lots of programs that are not suited for this type of distribution like sports, news, "realtime" reality-shows, gameshows etc..

      So, the only way i have to watch some of the stuff i would like to see here is to "pirate".. Ie buying stuff on DVD that is directed for a different region (no problem there except having to wait for a few weeks and paying for postage etc.)
      The other way i can get access to it is to download it, and if i think it's good i usually buy it.. WHEN/IF it becomes available where i live...

    24. Re:So let's do something about it. by BitZtream · · Score: 0

      Seriously?

      McDonalds is hiring. I see plenty of people from McDonalds with iPhones buying shit all the time.

      I suspect your problem is something more along the lines of being 'too good' to work where you can, and spending well beyond your means, then blaming it on the job market.

      The fact that you make such a retarded ignorant statement just makes it incredibly clear that you are completely out of touch with reality. Even the Mexican day laborers at home depot can afford to pay for their content, why is it they can survive and prosper with out any real skills yet someone like you apparently can't afford to pay $20 for a DVD?

      Stop your whining, get off your lazy ass and man up. No one is going to help you or make it any easier on you, its already practically handed to you on a silver platter.

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    25. Re:So let's do something about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Finding value does NOT mean..."

      This is an unintelligent statement. Demand curves are downward sloping and we generally think about the marginal unit of consumption. The total value is not what we usually think about.

      Pricing a good such that consumers can have as much of it as they want is not going to be a good way for suppliers to stay in business.

    26. Re:So let's do something about it. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Yup, that minimum monthly payment on the $65,000 of college tuition bills for that 8 year degree is a massive payment that will never get me anywhere as minimum payments = perpetual debt.

      Unlike the GP who started the whining and his daddy paid for all his schooling and the Audi A6 he drove, although daddy made him drive a 4 year old USED A6. He was shunned at the country club because of it.

      To this day he has nightmares of driving used vehicles or anything less than an A8. He showers trying to get the dirtyness of middle class of his skin.

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    27. Re:So let's do something about it. by jamstar7 · · Score: 1

      65K for some state university, maybe. Try looking at tuition for an Ivy League school. It sure as hell is a lot more than 65K/8 years. 4 years of Harvard Medical is around half a million. You won't get the networking you'd get at an Ivy League school at some state university. And student loans tend to have higher interest rates than any other loans. You can't bankrupt out of them, either.

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  10. Noooooooo by Mike+Mentalist · · Score: 2

    Bog off ya bastids. I uploaded some of my own work there last week.

    Hopefully they will leave it there.

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  11. Re:could you imagine how useful it would be if the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is this I don't even

  12. Re:could you imagine how useful it would be if the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    After consultation with several linguistic experts, I believe the closest English translation would be:

    "I am fucking retarded"

    It should be noted though that Retard is difficult to properly translate in it's written form, as it has only 3 known phrases, all of which are spelled identically, which is to say all of which are spelled with any random combination of characters. As such, it's entirely possible the OP was actually trying to say:

    "I've done far far too many drugs"

    or

    "I've stopped taking my medication"

  13. Post text for those blocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    New TPB investigation leaked

    TPB is not hosted in -insert country here-, as far as we know. "As far as we know?" you might ask! Yes. TPB is set up in a very special way to make sure that it will stay up. This means that noone really knows exactly where the servers are, but we've made sure to stay out of the United States of Arrogance and some other countries where the governments do not like free speech.

    The only box someone could find is the one in the front, that needs to be public. We have multiple of those, scattered like diarrhea around the world. They contain no storage device, no graphics card. Only a network cable, a cpu and memory. Being nice people, we've put small easters egg into each box though, for the hard work put into finding that public machine! Nothing dangerous though, just funny.

    Even though this means that TPB can never be pin-pointed to a certain country, the Swedish district attorney Fredrik Ingblad initiated a new investigation into The Pirate Bay back in 2010. Information has been leaked to us every now and then by multiple sources, almost on a regular basis. It's an interesting read. We can certainly understand why WikiLeaks wished to be hosted in Sweden, since so much data leaks there. The reason that we get the leaks is usually that the whistleblowers does not agree with what is going on. Something that the governments should have in mind - even your own people does not agree.

    Since our recent move to a .SE domain the investigation has been cranked up a notch. We think that the investigation is interesting considering nothing that TPB does is illegal. Rather we find it interesting that a country like Sweden is being so abused by lobbyists and that this can be kept up. They're using scare tactics, putting pressure on the wrong people, like providers and users. All out of fear from the big country in the west, and with an admiration for their big fancy wallets.

    We're staying put where we are. We're going no-where. But we have a message to hollywood, the investigators and the prosecutors: LOL.

  14. Re:could you imagine how useful it would be if the by aix+tom · · Score: 1

    ... get GPS signals in most real server rooms.

  15. Re:Very Kill Bill-ish by X0563511 · · Score: 0

    Yep, though they are usually called nightsticks (generic name for a club, actually).

    Though part of me wishes we used sasumata.

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  16. Text for le blocked by watermark · · Score: 1, Informative

    "New TPB investigation leaked

    TPB is not hosted in -insert country here-, as far as we know. "As far as we know?" you might ask! Yes. TPB is set up in a very special way to make sure that it will stay up. This means that noone really knows exactly where the servers are, but we've made sure to stay out of the United States of Arrogance and some other countries where the governments do not like free speech.

    The only box someone could find is the one in the front, that needs to be public. We have multiple of those, scattered like diarrhea around the world. They contain no storage device, no graphics card. Only a network cable, a cpu and memory. Being nice people, we've put small easters egg into each box though, for the hard work put into finding that public machine! Nothing dangerous though, just funny.

    Even though this means that TPB can never be pin-pointed to a certain country, the Swedish district attorney Fredrik Ingblad initiated a new investigation into The Pirate Bay back in 2010. Information has been leaked to us every now and then by multiple sources, almost on a regular basis. It's an interesting read. We can certainly understand why WikiLeaks wished to be hosted in Sweden, since so much data leaks there. The reason that we get the leaks is usually that the whistleblowers does not agree with what is going on. Something that the governments should have in mind - even your own people does not agree.

    Since our recent move to a .SE domain the investigation has been cranked up a notch. We think that the investigation is interesting considering nothing that TPB does is illegal. Rather we find it interesting that a country like Sweden is being so abused by lobbyists and that this can be kept up. They're using scare tactics, putting pressure on the wrong people, like providers and users. All out of fear from the big country in the west, and with an admiration for their big fancy wallets.

    We're staying put where we are. We're going no-where. But we have a message to hollywood, the investigators and the prosecutors: LOL.

    Posted Today 11:46 by Leakblad"

    1. Re:Text for le blocked by tkrotchko · · Score: 2

      Without getting into the semantics of copyright versus theft, the first amendment does not specify only political speech is free.

      Its very very broad.

      And before you drag out the old saw about "fire in a crowded theater", those types of exceptions are generally for imminent danger to the public.

      The exception was not carved out for "to protect commercial interests".

      If you don't like the 1st amendment, try to get it changed.

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    2. Re:Text for le blocked by LoyalOpposition · · Score: 1

      It still amuses me how the phrase "free speech" has somehow been redefined from its original definition of "freedom to speak out against the government or other public organization without repercussion" to mean "explicitly helping download copyrighted materials against the wishes of the copyright holders, plus one or two token Linux distros as a 'legal' front".

      The situation may not be as clear as you imagine. Suppose we agree that legislators are sometimes opposed to free speech because it can cause them to lose their power or wealth. Suppose we also agree that the purpose of copyright is to promote the progress of science and the useful arts by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries. It seems obvious to me that there should be an optimum amount of time for the length of copyright to extend. Anything shorter that that optimum amount of time would insufficiently encourage authors and inventors, and anything longer would excessively inhibit the progress of science and the useful arts.

      I have seen a study alluded to that suggests that two years is the optimum amount of time. That suggests to me there there is some reason other than promoting science and the useful arts that the current monopoly length was chosen. It occurs to me that Senator Orin Hatch has been called the Senator from Disney because he has been instrumental in strengthening copyright monopoly in the United States. It also occurs to me that Disney has transferred quite a bit if its wealth to Senator Hatch, possibly in the form of campaign contributions. It also occurs to me that the Senator from Disney would lose much of that income if he came out in favor of a two year copyright term. The Senator from Disney has passed laws that prohibit me from drawing Steamboat Willy in icing on a cake and selling it. I'm not free to express that. If I were to express that then the legislator would get less wealth. I conclude that it's possible that the excessive length of copyright is a freedom of expression issue.

      Yet everyone gets up in arms and cries like banshees whenever the word "steal" gets "redefined". Way to not look like a bunch of self-centered pricks, you guys. *slow clap*

      Word to the wise...

      ~Loyal

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    3. Re:Text for le blocked by cpu6502 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The fire in a theater argument is actually flawed. It was part of the Supreme Court's desire to keep President Wilson happy because the president wanted to lock-up and silence the anti-war protestors and writers (also suffragettes). i.e. They gave the president permission to trample the first amendment.

      The Court was wrong. The anti-war people of the time were equivalent to a person standing OUTSIDE a theater and warning people, "Don't go or else you risk dying. It's dangerous." Which is protected speech and a perfectly valid thing to do.

      Just as the Supreme Court was wrong to say segregation was legal, the court was wrong to allow President Wilson to silence the anti-war critics and lock them in jail. Or to apply the invalid fire-in-a-theater argument to justify it.

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    4. Re:Text for le blocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Politician would never think about doing it, its pretty much ensures who ever voted to repeal the first amendment would not be reelected. So they just ignore the law by side stepping and using diplomatic means of exterting pressure on countries to do what they want. The US has always done this behind the scenes, just only recently that someone got caught by the public, ie Nixon.

    5. Re:Text for le blocked by GmExtremacy · · Score: 1

      It still amuses me how the phrase "free speech" has somehow been redefined from its original definition of "freedom to speak out against the government or other public organization without repercussion"

      It has? Just the phrase "free speech" says nothing about the government or organizations. It clearly protects other forms of speech, too.

  17. Re:could you imagine how useful it would be if the by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 1

    Except GPS is trivial to spoof, with hardware or RF, or just supplying the servers' previous coordinates as the key. Passwords are protection, but not against a subpoena, as failing to provide them means automatic jailtime.

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  18. Ask and ye shall receive - Full text of article by Gazzonyx · · Score: 4, Informative
    Leaked: Police Plan to Raid The Pirate Bay ErnestoMarch 9, 2012131 raid,

    More than half a decade after Swedish police officers first raided The Pirate Bay, there is talk that a second police raid against the world’s most famous torrent site is in the planning. The Pirate Bay team has learned that local authorities have acquired warrants to take action against the site, and expect that both servers and the new .se domain name may be targeted soon.

    In the spring of 2006 a team of 65 Swedish police personnel entered a datacenter in Stockholm. The officers were tasked with shutting down the largest threat to the entertainment industry at the time – The Pirate Bay’s servers.

    The raid eventually led to the conviction of four people connected to The Pirate Bay, but the site itself remained online.

    Today, the Pirate Bay team has informed TorrentFreak that a second raid is being prepared by the Swedish authorities. The site’s operators, who are well-connected in multiple ways, learned that a team of Swedish investigators is gearing up to move against the site in the future. The suspicions were also made public by The Pirate Bay a few minutes ago. “The Swedish district attorney Fredrik Ingblad initiated a new investigation into The Pirate Bay back in 2010. Information has been leaked to us every now and then by multiple sources, almost on a regular basis. It’s an interesting read,” the Pirate Bay crew notes. “We can certainly understand why WikiLeaks wished to be hosted in Sweden, since so much data leaks there. The reason that we get the leaks is usually that the whistleblowers do not agree with what is going on. Something that the governments should have in mind – even your own people do not agree.” The Pirate Bay team confirmed to TorrentFreak that the announcement is no prank. The authorities have obtained warrants to snoop around in sensitive places and two known anti-piracy prosecutors, Frederick Ingblad and Henrik Rasmusson, are said to be involved. Employing a little psychological warfare aimed at putting the investigators off-balance, the Pirate Bay team has chosen to make the news public to make the authorities aware that they are not the only ones being watched. According to The Pirate Bay team they aren’t doing anything illegal, but nonetheless they noticed that the investigation intensified after the site’s recent move to a .SE domain. “Since our recent move to a .SE domain the investigation has been cranked up a notch. We think that the investigation is interesting considering nothing that TPB does is illegal,” they say. “Rather we find it interesting that a country like Sweden is being so abused by lobbyists and that this can be kept up. They’re using scare tactics, putting pressure on the wrong people, like providers and users. All out of fear from the big country in the west, and with an admiration for their big fancy wallets.” Behind the scenes The Pirate Bay team is working hard to ensure that the site will remain online in the event that servers, domain names and Internet routes are cut off. In this regard The Pirate Bay has learned a valuable lesson from its former operators. Those who are aware of the site’s history know that without a few essential keystrokes in May 2006, The Pirate Bay may not have been here today. When Pirate Bay founder TiAMO heard that something was amiss, he decided to make a full backup of the site before heading off to the datacenter, where he was greeted by dozens of police officers.

    TiAMO’s decision to start a backup of the site is probably the most pivotal moment in the site’s history. Because of this backup the Pirate Bay team were able to resurrect the site within three days. If there hadn’t have been a recent backup, things may have turned out quite differently. It was a close call at the time, and a defining moment in the history of the site. The dete

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  19. Thought they were hosted by parliment now? by shaitand · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was under the impression that the site was hosted by the pirate party as a function of office now and thus gained immunity to prosecution in Sweden?

    1. Re:Thought they were hosted by parliment now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Even if it were, the US government will pull the lever until it moves.

    2. Re:Thought they were hosted by parliment now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Operation : Archimedes.

    3. Re:Thought they were hosted by parliment now? by GmExtremacy · · Score: 1

      Even if that was true, they don't care about that. They pretty much just do whatever they want (as long as they get money, of course).

      They're bribed so much that they make going after people who are equivalent to jaywalkers (People are copying movies! The horror!) their top priority.

    4. Re:Thought they were hosted by parliment now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they were planning it but I don't think it ever happened.

    5. Re:Thought they were hosted by parliment now? by BitZtream · · Score: 0

      No, someone said 'we're going to do that'

      And someone else pointed out that it hasn't been legal to do that in sweden at any point in history so they were trying to take advantage of a loophole that never actually existed for them. (Others, yes, but not them for obvious reasons)

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    6. Re:Thought they were hosted by parliment now? by shaitand · · Score: 1

      "No, someone said 'we're going to do that'

      And someone else pointed out that it hasn't been legal to do that in sweden at any point in history"

      Is there some reason you made all that up? Parliamentary immunity still holds and would be perfectly valid as suggested. The plan was announced in anticipation of the pirate party winning seats and the pirate party just didn't win the seats.

      http://torrentfreak.com/swedish-pirate-party-fails-to-enter-parliament-100919/
      http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-07/5/pirate-bay-swedish-parliament

  20. Re:could you imagine how useful it would be if the by hoggoth · · Score: 1

    Ridiculous. Using GPS as part of your password is just.... ready for it... a password!
    A password cracker would try many different GPS coordinates instead of many different words and letters.
    Even easier, because if you have some knowledge of the datas original location the password cracker can try starting at that location and spiraling out from there.

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  21. Re:Very Kill Bill-ish by blackicye · · Score: 1, Informative

    American cops have these weird things that I'm not even going to try to describe. Come to think, I would be far less inclined to cross a cop who was armed with a sword than I would a cop with the aforementioned weird stick thingy.

    Tonfa?

    Anyone who has played Sierra's Police Quest could tell you that is a PR-24 Nightstick ;)

  22. Re:Very Kill Bill-ish by RobCull · · Score: 1, Informative

    Are you referring to a tonfa? A tonfa is like a small baton with an extra handle/grip at 90 degrees from the rest of the baton. It's otherwise known as a night stick. It's basically a standard billy club, except the extra handle is added so it can be used defensively (to protect the forearm) and to make it harder to pull out of the bearer's hand.

    There is not way a sword is less of a threat than a night stick.

  23. 194.71.107.15 by Artemis3 · · Score: 2

    Perhaps try adding that to your hosts file?

    Tor should also help you bypass censorship.

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  24. Re:Very Kill Bill-ish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nah, I just did some digging (caffeine made me less-lazy and Google and I think they're called "telescopic batons." Image: http://www.protectyourhomeandfamily.com/files/1978296/uploaded/TSB.jpg

    I'm pretty sure that's what I saw and I definitely remember part of it being foamy (very NERF-like) and feeling pretty flimsy.

    Of course, I'm of the opinion that police brass are trying to phase out physical means of submission in favor of things like mace and tasers because they don't leave ugly bruises for the media and defense attorneys to use against them. Frankly, I'd rather get whacked in the head with a stick than get tased or maced. Less likely than the taser to kill me and probably doesn't hurt as long as the mace (unless they break something).

  25. How many TB for PB? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    The police are panning a new RAID on the pirate bay? Cool! How many TB will they be adding?

    1. Re:How many TB for PB? by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      petabytes, not terabytes. TPB will be TPing the PB while increasing the PB in the RAID in response to the RAID in the PB by the PD.

    2. Re:How many TB for PB? by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      will this be a CIA op on the QT?

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  26. Re:Very Kill Bill-ish by Anomalyst · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anyone who has played Sierra's Police Quest could tell you that is a PR-24 Nightstick ;)

    Does the "PR" stand for "Public Relations"?

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  27. Re:Very Kill Bill-ish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The PR-24 Nightstick. Also known as the PR Nightmare.

  28. Re:Very Kill Bill-ish by camperdave · · Score: 1

    Kind of hard to casually stroll into a coffee shop, or a mall, or to get in and out of squad cars with a 2 meter pole covered in barbs and sharp pointy bits; but it would look bad-ass.

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  29. Re:Very Kill Bill-ish by camperdave · · Score: 2

    It seems to me that a taser could be defeated with a tinfoil undershirt, or conductive foam.

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  30. Re:Very Kill Bill-ish by X0563511 · · Score: 1

    Indeed. But they could use one of these instead, the modern evolution of the things. Bonus points if you employ the metal shield too!

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  31. Re:Very Kill Bill-ish by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    I though a "nightstick" was... never mind.

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  32. What TPB doesn't know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is that the investigations, etc, already took place ;)

  33. In Soviet Russia by Roachie · · Score: 1

    Pirate raid POLICE!

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  34. Re:Very Kill Bill-ish by tombeard · · Score: 1

    This might be more comfortable.
    http://www.twpinc.com/wire-mesh/TWPCAT_10

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  35. Re:could you imagine how useful it would be if the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually that could be quite a cool thing...

    Use the GPS cordinates as a seed..
    Password( sha224( sha224(password), RNG-seed(gps-cordinates), salt) )

    Doing this would allow for a number of things...
    GPS equipment would need a pin to be used as a salt - no way to verify if it's correct...
    Input password+pin on GPS. GPS generates 2 sha224 values it sends to the server.
    Server in turn does a brute-force, starting at the latest known position, of all degrees the world over. 36000*18000 (if we use two decimals) and that would be 648000000 checks.. Should be doable within a few seconds... Even using 2 decimals for the Lat/Long it should be doable.. This should be done so the server always returns after a specific amount of time for both successful and unsuccessful logins..

    Even if you managed to get a hold of a password file and seed, but without the location-access-data, and managed to do a brute-force attack on the password it would be impossible to even attempt a bruteforce attack against the server since the server could actually trace where the specified last location was and if going to fast over the world then it would just lock the account..

    It would be impossible to do any type of brute-force attempt since the server could easily store a log of the location for the last attempted login and if not correct and moving too fast more than (say 100km/h if last attempt was less than 10 min ago and 800km/h if last attempt was 2h ago to allow for flights) it would make it practically impossible to do an actual attack even if all required hardware was located..

    By doing it this way we allow for the following:
    - Pin of the GPS to be used as a seed.. Maybe not even needed..
    - GPS Cordinates as a sha224.. Sure a rainbow-table on that one is not hard..
    - sha224( sha224(password) + sha224(gps) ) makes it a real problem... Even for short passwords since we throw in the location data.. add as many loops in a sha224 function as needed to make the login be atleast 2 seconds..
    - The server can know from where the user last tried to login, if moving too fast then just start returning login-errors for everything..

    For reference in the below part.. 0.01 degrees is ~ 1.8km.

    2 seconds real login-time - say 3 with network latencey and server-added time and trying to scan an area of 100*100km (0.54x0.54 degrees) would require ~2916 tries... ie 3*2916 ~ 2.4h and calculating the speed the person travels for that time would be 1.8km per 3 seconds...So the actual time it would take to do a bruteforce would be : .0277777777 km/second - to scan 0.01x0.54 degrees would be ~ 1h (user goes as 100km/h)..
    1h * 54 = 54 hours..

    And doing detection on bruteforce-attempts like that would be *very* easy..

  36. Already coppied the design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well I made a copy of their t shirt and I suppose I could make unlimited more copies for all my friends

  37. Re:Very Kill Bill-ish by jersey_emt · · Score: 1

    Expandable baton. Commonly referred to as an ASP (which is a company who makes these batons). They are quite effective (even deadly) when properly used.

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  38. Re:Very Kill Bill-ish by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

    oh, yes, the Polizei in the UK now have:

    pepper spray
    Glock pistols
    H&K MP5 automatic carbines

    and the famous tonfa derivative, the Monadnock PR-24 (I have one, I carry it when out hunting).

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  39. Re:could you imagine how useful it would be if the by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

    Would be easier to use a 256-bit 3-cascade differential encryption and a 63-character password (which combination would take more time to break with a bruteforce than the Universe has been in existence) - and then suffer PTSD-induced amnesia.

    Fuck, but you people have a knack for overcomplicating things!

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