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Drones, Dogs and the Future of Privacy
An anonymous reader writes "Stanford's Ryan Calo has previously told us that 'that there is very little in American privacy law that would prohibit drone surveillance within our borders.' But will UAVs not only be legally permitted to monitor us in public, but also be used to 'peer' into homes with high-tech thermal and chemical sensors and alert police to the presence of illicit substances or other suspicious activity? Calo writes in Wired about a pending Supreme Court case, Florida v. Jardines, which will determine 'whether the police need a warrant before a dog can sniff your house' like they already do to luggage at airports. According to Calo, if the Court approves of these searches, it's a small leap to extend that same logic to the use of drones, allowing them 'to roam a neighborhood in search of invisible infractions such as indoor marijuana.' He concludes: 'The wrong decision in Jardines makes this and similar surveillance scenarios uncomfortably plausible.'"
Cops cannot use thermal imaging to see inside without a warrant. What you saw on Weeds was just a TV show.
The walls of your house create an expectation of privacy, and that privacy is protected by the constitution.
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I am sooooo looking forward to my new house with the "potting" room where I can have grow lamps. Getting no-knock raids in the middle of the night where the narcs find absolutely bupkis is funny enough, but it can't be that hard to come up with extracts that drive drug-sniffing dogs wild. Just a squirt here and there around the neighborhood ...
Lacking <sarcasm> tags,
"Oops I'm sorry officer but it keeps getting getting flying cock roaches and your surveillance quad copter mixed up and burning a hole through it."
As far as "seeing" in your house the police using IR cameras to spy on you will just motivate everyone that much more to go green faster and heavily insulate their homes making those cameras pretty much useless for spying. Personally I'd rather have them us IR for patrolling so maybe we can finally get rid of the rediculous amount of outdoor lighting we have everywhere in the city.
Guess its time to practice my slingshot skills!
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your politician, and hitting them?"
For now.
All that needs to happen is another case going before a differently populated supreme court and they can change the ruling. Then refuse to hear anymore cases on the issue.
Besides, all they have to do is pull out the 'terrorism' card and our rights are negated.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Government agencies always want to spy on us; drug laws are simply an excuse to do so, as is terrorism, child pornography scares, and so forth. The real goal is to expand the power of the executive, a trend that we have observed for many years in this country. That is why the Controlled Substances Act allows the attorney general's office to unilaterally declare drugs to be illegal. That is why police forces can recycle seized assets into their own budgets. That is why we have paramilitary police at all levels of government, signals intelligence vans, the use of NORAD for law enforcement purposes, the TSA, the latest NDAA "let's just skip due process" bill, etc., etc., etc.
Politicians, and especially the president, gain power by trading favors with other powerful people. It is pretty hard to repay those people when your power is limited by the law, and so we see the weakening of legal protections of our basic rights and the strengthening of the government's power over us. Since most people will willingly submit to these abuses -- and have been trained to be submissive by the education system in this country -- any effort to thwart these attacks is severely disadvantaged.
Palm trees and 8
On the other hand, if you feel that 'big brother' is silently watching your every move, then you must have a huge ego.
I find this statement to be pretty interesting. Google certainly does monitor all the email you send, for advertising purposes (but will fork it over when law enforcement presents a court order). Facebook monitors even more details of most people's lives, and is not going to take a stand against government requests for information. Big brother is watching everyone; the government just has not figured out how best to use the flood of information to its advantage (and the friendly relationship between the government and corporations makes it hard to distinguish between corporate invasions of privacy and government invasions).
Even totalitarian states do not take action on every single piece of information that they are aware of. The point of governments collecting information on citizens is not to target everyone, it is to maintain government power by spotting potential dissidents before their movements grow to "dangerous" sizes. The struggle for privacy is a struggle for power; privacy rights are fundamental to individual empowerment and democracy.
So is big brother going to come after you because of your secret affair? Of course not. Is big brother going to release information about your secret affair when you start talking about changing the social order, reducing political corruption, or working for the benefit of the common people? It is not unthinkable that such a thing could happen.
Palm trees and 8
On the other hand, if you feel that 'big brother' is silently watching your every move, then you must have a huge ego.
You don't need to be personally paranoid to realize that the worry is not necessarily constant active surveillance by 'big brother', rather that by making virtually every facet of your life recordable, the authorities will now have the ultimate version of Cardinal Richelieu's proverbial "six lines written by the most honorable of men". I don't think anyone is watching me nor would they have any reason to, but I can honestly say the way things are going would make me far less likely to, for example, become publicly active in a controversial political cause.
Momentarily, the need for the construction of new light will no longer exist.
Instead of sinking billions more into the failed war on drugs so that they can have even more toys, we just end the failed attempt at prohibition, stop looking for a criminal solution, and start treating the problem like the medical / social issue it is.
That's right. Legalize everything. Spend a couple billion to set up treatment centers for addiction, allow pharmacies to distribute safe products appropriately, and take the money out of the hands of criminal organizations and law enforcement entirely.
Before you start with the "think of the children" arguments. Realize that it's easier for your kids to get illegal drugs now than it is for them to get beer or cigarettes. That's how effective the war on drugs has been. And I come from a country bumpkin community. Everything I could have wanted was readily available in my middle school. I didn't even have to get to high school before I knew who to chat up for stuff like that had I been interested. Your kids aren't going to suddenly become junkies because they have access to drugs. They already have that access if they want it. The problem is already there. And for the most part they're not interested unless they have other problems in their lives.
The current solution is grossly ineffective and extraordinarily expensive at the same time. It's time to stop beating a dead horse and move on to a solution that's been proven to work.
The issue is not the privacy of the surveyed
I think that's a big problem.
On the other hand, if you feel that 'big brother' is silently watching your every move, then you must have a huge ego.
More like the government could be watching your every move. Or someone else's moves. I don't only care about myself, you know.
I care about privacy not only because I and many others enjoy it, but because it helps keep corrupt governments from suddenly creating ridiculous laws to criminalize previously innocent citizens. If they could watch everyone, then it gives them the ability to easily see whether someone is doing something that they recently declared illegal and enables them to silence dissenters far more easily.
But of course, my country's government would never do that! Out of all the corrupt governments throughout history, mine is special and cannot be corrupted!