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MIME Attachments Are 20 Years Old Today

judgecorp writes "MIME email attachments have been around for 20 years, and we now send a trillion every day. The mountains of emails in corporate archives now contain vital information, says MIME inventor Nathaniel Borenstein, which can be mined to expose conspiracies and make businesses more efficient. He also says a one-penny tax on attachments would make him as rich as Germany — if it weren't for the fact that such a charge would have killed MIME."

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  1. Who is this we? by vlm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    we now send a trillion every day.

    Only if the "we" includes spam scripts. I suspect the true number of human sent mime emails is well under a billion per day.

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    1. Re:Who is this we? by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You underestimate the power of a PHB with a Bcc list.

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    2. Re:Who is this we? by Karlt1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The author didn't say that a trillion emails were sent everyday, he said MIME was used a trillion times everyday. MIME is also used as part of http.

    3. Re:Who is this we? by grcumb · · Score: 4, Funny

      The article says "I did some checking up, and thereâ(TM)s an estimate that MIME is used a trillion times every day"

      A trillion MIMEs? I'm speechless.
      *runs away without moving*

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  2. Larry Wall on MIME by Baldrson · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gad, I hate MIME.
    Larry Wall, 13 Sep 1995

  3. Another interesting interview. by olsmeister · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here is another interesting interview with Ned Borenstein I read last week.

  4. uuencode FTW! by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was trying to remember how I emailed binaries back in the day then I remembered piping uuencode into mail and addresses with bangs and hoping some grouchy admin along the UUCP trail didn't bitch about the traffic. Get off my lawn!

    1. Re:uuencode FTW! by sootman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nice, it's not often I get to bust out this old gem:

      User: What do I do with this attachment?
      Admin: You uudecode it.
      User: I I I decode it?

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  5. a new (?) law of mathematics by fche · · Score: 5, Funny

    "He also says a one-penny tax on attachments would make him as rich as Germany"

    Just goes to show that the product of multiplying two meaningless numbers is a meaningless number.

    1. Re:a new (?) law of mathematics by Rayonic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "He also says a one-penny tax on attachments would make him as rich as Germany"

      Just goes to show that the product of multiplying two meaningless numbers is a meaningless number.

      So it's kinda like a tax break. He could have taxed everyone 1 penny per attachment but he didn't, so he essentially gave everyone 1 penny per email attachment.

      Thus Nathaniel Borenstein has given trillions of dollars to spammers. What a jerk! He should have spent those trillions on more worthy causes.

      (The scary thing is that many lawmakers think along these lines. Money not taken = money given, regardless of logistics or practicality.)

    2. Re:a new (?) law of mathematics by JamesP · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hence the old joke

      Don't run after a bus, run after a taxi, you will save a lot more money

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  6. MIME is awesome but awful by dskoll · · Score: 4, Interesting

    MIME is quite amazing, but some of the RFCs such as RFC 2231 are a real WTF. I took over maintainership of the MIME::tools Perl module and felt murderous sentiments towards the authors of that RFC...

    1. Re:MIME is awesome but awful by dskoll · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What's bad about it is coming up with sane ways to deal with malformed parameter values while minimizing security risks. There are many ways to abuse that spec (for example) to specify something that Outlook sees as "filename.exe" while your security scanner sees "innoccuous.txt", depending on how the malformed parameter is interpreted.

      Handling well-formed MIME is easy. Dealing safely with malformed MIME is a nightmare. And unfortunately, because of piles of bad software, you can't be pedantic and simply reject malformed MIME; end-users will riot.