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South Korean Scientists Prepare To Clone Wooly Mammoth

An anonymous reader writes "Last year Russian researchers discovered a well-preserved mammoth thigh bone and announced plans to clone a mammoth from the bone marrow within — and they just signed a deal with South Korea's Sooam Biotech Research Foundation to bring the project to fruition. The Sooam scientists plan to implant the nucleus of a woolly mammoth cell into an elephant egg in order to to create a mammoth embryo, which would then be placed in an elephant womb. 'This will be a really tough job,' Soaam reasearcher Hwang In-Sung said, 'but we believe it is possible because our institute is good at cloning animals.'" Not to be confused with a similar mammoth effort at mammoth-cloning at Kyoto University.

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  1. Mass production by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Funny

    Knowing the Koreans they will be turning out a million units a year starting in 2014.

    1. Re:Mass production by philip.paradis · · Score: 4, Funny

      That would be a truly mammoth production level.

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    2. Re:Mass production by jhoegl · · Score: 2

      Wooly

    3. Re:Mass production by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      And the first questions after they have successfully cloned a mammoth by the people will be, "How does it taste?"
       

    4. Re:Mass production by Ihmhi · · Score: 4, Funny

      They had better be careful. Things could get a bit hairy.

    5. Re:Mass production by ryanov · · Score: 3, Funny

      I never buy cars from any company that doesn't allow wheels. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

    6. Re:Mass production by Mitchell314 · · Score: 4, Funny

      *tusk* *tusk*
      No need to be condescending; the Koreans know what they're doing.

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    7. Re:Mass production by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

      Despite the cliche, history doesn't predict the future, just gives it an easily observable option.

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    8. Re:Mass production by dbIII · · Score: 3, Informative

      Some Russians and their Siberian huskies already know the answer to that one. There's been a few thawed out over the last century, and one turned into a lot of dog food since the only thing that could really be preserved in a warmer climate long term was the skeleton.

    9. Re:Mass production by thomst · · Score: 4, Funny

      And the first questions after they have successfully cloned a mammoth by the people will be, "How does it taste?"

      And the answer will be, "Like chicken!"

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    10. Re:Mass production by neokushan · · Score: 2

      They might just end up with an Elephant that has a hairy arse.

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    11. Re:Mass production by impaledsunset · · Score: 2

      It's very much likely that it tastes like an elephant. Just like how an ape tastes almost like a human. (The brain is the most tasty part if you eat while the specimen is still alive)

    12. Re:Mass production by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Informative

      And even the Russians who sometimes enjoy a piece of slightly rotting meat

      Um, what? I'm a Russian, and I most certainly don't enjoy rotten meat, regardless of "slightly" and "sometimes".

  2. Arsenal by sixtyeight · · Score: 3, Funny

    Forget their nuclear capabilities. We now have a bigger problem.

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    1. Re:Arsenal by philip.paradis · · Score: 2

      You're right. It will be a problem of truly mammoth proportions.

      On a related note, it's generally North Korea (officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea) that people are concerned about in terms of nuclear capabilities, not South Korea.

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    2. Re:Arsenal by ben4528 · · Score: 2

      Forget their nuclear capabilities. We now have a bigger problem.

      Don't confuse "South Koera" with the The "Communist North Koera" just yet, they are totally different countries!!!

    3. Re:Arsenal by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

      Don't confuse "South Koera" with the The "Communist North Koera"

      Exactly, North Korea did succeed in cloning long ago.

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    4. Re:Arsenal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      STFU, you pompous windbag.

    5. Re:Arsenal by Patch86 · · Score: 2

      One is a crazy Stalinist dictatorship run by a military junta with a personality cult, and is home to outrageous poverty, while the other is a modern capitalist democracy with American military and financial backing. Also, they're technically at war.

      High-level reunification effort or no, I think it's probably best if you keep the distinction in your mind for at least a teensy bit longer.

    6. Re:Arsenal by sixtyeight · · Score: 2

      Don't make up some bizarre story that you and other people in the know already consider them to be one country.

      As of February 27th, 2012:

      "Meanwhile, in Asia, signs of harmony and unity are multiplying. Discussions last week in Korea between a White Dragon Society representatives and South Korean representatives reached agreement in principle on many issues. First of all, the South Koreans agreed on unification between North and South Korea based on the principle of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un a ceremonial post (perhaps “symbol of unity”) and a palace. After North South unification, talks could begin on greater East Asian economic and political integration.

      "The South Koreans also agreed to the plan to set up a new international economic planning agency in Japan so long as it was also possible to set up a major new private sector financial center near Pusan, South Korea."

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  3. Giants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Next we'll need to genetically engineer giants to herd these mammoths...

    1. Re:Giants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And what exactly do you think the mammoth ate? Snow and ice? How did the mommoth bodies get under the snow and ice? By digging through?

  4. Poor thing by zippo01 · · Score: 2

    So I'm thinking the poor thing is just going to get overheated, give up, and die like the rest of his kind did. Korean short ribs anyone?

    1. Re:Poor thing by rgbatduke · · Score: 2

      Actually, I think they became extinct because they were all eaten by a burgeoning post-Holocene human population. Although there was a subspecies population IIRC of miniature Mammoths that survived on an isolated island for couple thousand more years. They problem was they were too easy to kill and too slow to reproduce and lived in too small a habitable range in a protein-hungry human world. They weren't the only species to go down in this way -- lots of very large (and easily killed) mammals were wiped out around the same time.

      rgb

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    2. Re:Poor thing by tomhath · · Score: 2

      I think they became extinct because they were all eaten by a burgeoning post-Holocene human population.

      So they are good to eat. That makes the research worthwhile.

  5. Sounds great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Until they figure out that mammoths are assholes and that there is another reason they are extinct.

  6. At Last... by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 5, Funny

    Knowing the Koreans they will be turning out a million units a year starting in 2014.

    I will FINALLY be able to get those giant, car tipping Bar-B-Que ribs Fred Flintstone caused me to lust after for so very long!

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    1. Re:At Last... by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, I'm thinking if trained properly they would also make great guard animals... a sign saying
      WARNING:
      Property Protected by
      Attack Mammoth!
      should make anyone think twice about entering.

      Also might be cool to breed them down to the size of a pony and ride them to work...
      But the ribs idea could help the world economy. Imagine the demand for Bar-B-Que sauce and over-sized napkins.

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    2. Re:At Last... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You bastard, you made me google "Flinstone porn", and now I dearly regret it. Fucker!

    3. Re:At Last... by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You bastard, you made me google "Flinstone porn", and now I dearly regret it. Fucker!

      Read that as "nearly regret it"...

    4. Re:At Last... by dead_cthulhu · · Score: 2

      Why are you guys even talking about Wilma Flinstone in a sexual manner? You know she'll never leave Fred.

    5. Re:At Last... by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

      Because Elephants aren't a particularly effective weapon. If they were, we'd all be talking Carthaginian now.

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  7. This is good to hear considering... by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the elephant might go extinct like the rhino due to poachers. At least we'll have mammoths. >.>

    I guess the optimist would go,"If we have the tech to do it for mammoths, we can get back other extinct life forms."

    1. Re:This is good to hear considering... by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Funny

      Like rational intelligent statesmen?

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    2. Re:This is good to hear considering... by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      A close surviving relative would make bringing a eutherian species back to life much EASIER, yes. Having an elephant that they could implant a cloned Wolly Mammoth embryo into, which would then hopefully carry it to term and give birth, that would be much easier. However, lacking one would be a technical challenge, not an impossibility. We might never figure out how to develop some embryo via an artificial placenta, in an artificial environment, but there's nothing that says we absolutely will never be able to.

  8. Huh. by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

    I'm genuinely surprised nobody has yet to pose for an Insightful mod by quoting Jeff Goldblum.

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    1. Re:Huh. by witherstaff · · Score: 2

      What am I working on? Uhh... I'm working on something that will change the world, and human life as we know it.

  9. Mother of different species? by hawguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How well can an elephant's womb support an animal of a different species? Even human babies born to human mothers are in danger if something as simple as the mother's Rh factor is different than the baby's. Surely implanting an animal of one species into a completely different species will run into problems with rejection?

    1. Re:Mother of different species? by physicsphairy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's not really any way to know for sure without trying it. But there are a few reasons to be optimistic. We're talking genetically very similar animals (consider all the viable hybrids which occur naturally), and, when you think about it, the womb is a controlled environment. Once you have a highly evolved gestation system in place, selective pressure will tend to favor the existing system. (Look how similar embryos are, even across genetically distant species.)

      If it doesn't work, well, now you figure out where things went wrong and try again. Hopefully you at least have a new batch of cell nuclei to work with.

    2. Re:Mother of different species? by ryzvonusef · · Score: 2

      Well... things like Ligers and Tigons exist... if Lions and Tigers can mix, why not mammoths and elephants? They are just as close. (relatively speaking)

      Not to mention Mules (donkey + horse)

      Unless the comparison is different in this case?

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    3. Re:Mother of different species? by VortexCortex · · Score: 2

      Well... things like Ligers and Tigons exist... if Lions and Tigers can mix, why not mammoths and elephants? They are just as close. (relatively speaking)

      Not to mention Mules (donkey + horse)

      To say nothing of the even more obvious combination: Humans (Homo sapiens + Neanderthals).
      ... or, as I like to call them, Apes with Nukes.

  10. I don't even... by grasshoppa · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm not sure how much I trust any scientist that thinks elephants are born out of eggs....

    ( I keed, I keed )

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  11. Unpredictability in Complex Systems by nman64 · · Score: 2

    There's, uh, another example. See, here I am now, by myself, uh, talking to myself. That's... that's Chaos Theory.

  12. Re:We're gonna need a bigger blender by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 2

    No but it will run linux

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  13. Re:Saber Tooth Tiger, Dodo, Neanderthal and .. Chr by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Here's what would happen if you cloned Jesus:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbcr-SQ-gEY

  14. Escalation by srussia · · Score: 3

    Forget their nuclear capabilities. We now have a bigger problem

    How long before the North deploys oliphants at the border to counter the mammoth threat?

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  15. Re:Sweet by dbIII · · Score: 3, Funny

    On an aside, fuck the rhino

    Looks like we have a somewhat kinky but definitely tough enough replacement for Bear Grylls.

  16. But... by Hugundous · · Score: 2

    ...will it blend?

  17. it will NOT be a mammoth by dltaylor · · Score: 2

    It will have elephant mitochondrial DNA, so it will be a Mammoth/elephant hybrid.

    If they want a "real" mammoth (short of finding a female with viable eggs), they're going to have to replace the mitochondria also (and, no, midichlorians won't work either, although you'd end up with a very forceful animal), and keeping the egg alive while doing that has never been done, AFAIK.

  18. Viruses by Sqreater · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Are they taking any precautions against the probability that the genome contains viral components just as ours does? If they cannot prove beforehand that no virus will start replicating from the Wolly Mammoth genome once they activate it, they should not be allowed to proceed.

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