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New iPad Jailbroken Already

An anonymous reader writes "Just hours after the new Apple iPad was released, it was jailbroken in three (how appropriate!) separate ways. This means that hackers have already found and exploited security holes to run custom code on the new iPad with iOS 5.1. The tools for jailbreaking your new iPad aren't yet available, but this first step means the software will be developed sooner rather than later."

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  1. I'm not going to make the tablet mistake again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have to admit it, I got caught up in the hype and I bought an tablet. The novelty wore off after a couple of days. Since then, it has sat on my desk, almost completely unused. In fact, it's one of the worst purchases I've ever made.

    Tablets in general are rather pointless devices. They're far bulkier than my smart phone, so they're not very good on the go. They're much less comfortable to use than my netbook or my laptop, especially when I have to do a lot of typing. They're so vastly underpowered relative to even an old desktop that they're not usable for anything computationally intensive. My Kindle is a much better e-book reader.

    I learned the hard way that the usefulness of tablets is purely a marketing creation. They look like they have potential, but in practice they're just the combination of the worst of every other type of computer or computing device.

    1. Re:I'm not going to make the tablet mistake again. by koan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Tablets are media consumption platforms for people that don't really use their computers for serious task, oh I know someone will post how they hacked the Gibson using their iPad and a bluetooth keyboard, but for the most part it's a consumer toy for consuming consumer baubles.

      Moooooooooooooooooo

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    2. Re:I'm not going to make the tablet mistake again. by jjohnson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      the usefulness of tablets is purely a marketing creation

      Riiiiiiiight. Because "useful to me" is synonymous with "useful to anyone". You're the ur-consumer. Everyone actually enjoying and consistently using their tablets is doing it wrong.

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    3. Re:I'm not going to make the tablet mistake again. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Insightful

      the usefulness of tablets is purely a marketing creation

      Riiiiiiiight. Because "useful to me" is synonymous with "useful to anyone". You're the ur-consumer. Everyone actually enjoying and consistently using their tablets is doing it wrong.

      Actually, if you look at Slashdot's history for getting the next big thing in tech completely wrong (rather lame, actually), all you have to do is find the next device that Slashdot Groupthink really hates and bet long on it.

      Profit!

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    4. Re:I'm not going to make the tablet mistake again. by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      An easier way to express this is also "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."

    5. Re:I'm not going to make the tablet mistake again. by carvalhao · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, it really depends on the kind of usage you give them. As a CEO I am always on the move, and there are a lot of surfaces and situations in which a laptop really isn't practical. Try the inconvenience of having to show a presentation on a lunch table with a laptop and you will understand why. Nothing beats the ease of passing an unobstrusive device over the table for the other person to check out what you are trying to show. This may sound frivolous, but when you are trying to sell an idea, every bit of positive feeling on the other side really counts. One of the best purchases I ever made.

    6. Re:I'm not going to make the tablet mistake again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Idiotic.

      You don't try to cook pizza in your microwave, do you? You don't watch a movie on your phone (unless you have no other choice), do you?

      The iPad is a wonderful "adjunct" to a computer. It is NOT a replacement therefore, and it was never intended as such. It is, however, the perfect device for, for example, the following:

      Looking up stuff on the internet while sitting in your livingroom. (Coffee-table computing), where the "instant-on" puts nearly ZERO annoyance factor between desire for information and fulfilment.

      Using as an auxiliary computer using Telnet and/or VNC-type connectivity while doing development (or do you carry a second display with your laptop?)

      Many musical applications (synthesizer/DAW control, mobile multitrack recording, etc.). In fact, I'd like a SECOND iPad for that!

      Medium-scale gaming. Most games on a phone are a joke, due to screen size.

      "Take anywhere" home security display/control. (Insert advertisement for LiveCams Pro here). Again, phone screen is too small, and the laptop isn't with you in the garage.

      Oh, and as an e-reader while working. I use mine to browse documentation while doing development on my work-laptop. No more pawing back and forth between windows... REALLY handy when trying to learn something new!

      CAN you do these things with other devices? Sure; but that's not the point. The point is whether it's BETTER for the application; not whether the application is POSSIBLE using another device.

      And before I get yelled at for the "caps", I can't stand breaking my train of thought to shove in ridiculous HTML "style" tags, just because I want to emphasize a word; so I use "caps". Get over it. I'm NOT shouting...

    7. Re:I'm not going to make the tablet mistake again. by Svippy · · Score: 4, Funny

      A lot of people got elected that way.

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    8. Re:I'm not going to make the tablet mistake again. by itsdapead · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have to admit it, I got caught up in the hype and I bought an tablet. The novelty wore off after a couple of days. Since then, it has sat on my desk, almost completely unused. In fact, it's one of the worst purchases I've ever made.

      I bought a small car the other day. Worst purchase I ever made: it won't tow my boat, there's no room in the back for a goat and it can't transport my family of six. After a 1000 mile drive I feel totally exhausted, and it got stuck 100 yards up the half mile dirt track to my house, where it stays while I drive around in my old SUV.

      Oh, wait, that's a lie - I have a small car because I don't have a house at the end of a dirt track, a boat, six kids, a goat or a regular need to drive more than a couple of hundred miles... And If I did, I'd quite possibly keep a second small car for convenience when I didn't need to take the goat.

      That's where we're heading: PC=truck, Tablet=small car. Pick one or both depending on your needs.

      The tablet is ideal for browsing the web, checking email (and making brief replies), playing casual games etc. while sitting in a comfy chair. I can also run the on-demand players for all 5 main TV channels here (only one of which is available on my "smart" TV). At meetings and conferences it's all I need to carry around unless I'm demoing certain bits of software, and it's a much less obtrusive way of taking meeting notes. I can plug in a camera adapter and preview my shots on the road (thats where the new iPads retina display is going to shine).

      What it won't do is supplant my proper computer for serious work. However, I know quite a few people for whom a tablet would be all the portable computer they needed. For me, it's all the computer I need while sitting in an armchair.

      Ps. I agree that the ePaper Kindle is a better tool for reading a novel. however, that's all a Kindle can do - even for reference books I find the tablet better.

      Sent from my Tablet, sitting in a comfy chair.

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    9. Re:I'm not going to make the tablet mistake again. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not some super-fucking-nerdburger like you are. When you can explain to me, in English, how I can get a C compiler onto my tablet without having a Ph.D in computer engineering, then I might take notice.

      You want to have a C compiler, without knowing anything about computers?

      This may be hard for you, in your infinite wisdom, to believe; but some people just want to run code.

      Sure, lots of people want to just run code. These people, however, are not the same ones who want a C compiler. The people who want a C compiler, generally, are the ones that want to write C code. If you're not comfortable with compiling code yourself, then perhaps a C compiler is not the sort of application that you want to use.

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  2. Jailbreaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Remember: Jailbreaks are code execution vulnerabilities. On your oh so secure Apple device.

    1. Re:Jailbreaks by jo_ham · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Remember: Jailbreaks are code execution vulnerabilities. On your oh so secure Apple device.

      No software is 100% secure, all you can do is fix bugs and security holes as they become evident.

      Speaking of that, when Apple *does* fix these security holes, it's painted as "Apple patches jailbreaking because they hate freedom!!!" instead of "Apple closes security vulnerability".

      Damned if they do, damned if they don't, I suppose.

      (Disclaimer: I think iOS should have a built in 'advanced' mode that effectively results in the same thing as jailbreaking).

    2. Re:Jailbreaks by simonebaracchi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      don't we usually say "physical access to machines equals root access!" instead of "code execution vulnerabilities" when this happens to unix boxes?

    3. Re:Jailbreaks by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Damned if they do, damned if they don't, I suppose.

      False dichotomy; they could have just shipped tablets that were not locked down, or as you yourself suggest, tablets which can be unlocked by the user.

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  3. One at a Time by Fnord666 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hopefully the jailbreaking community will only use one exploit at a time so that when Apple patches the first, they can use the next and so on. What I would like to know is whether there are multiple groups working on this, and if so, do they communicate their exploits so that no more than one is revealed to Apple at a time?

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  4. I'm not going to make the smartphone mistake again by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have to admit it, I got caught up in the hype and I bought a smartphone. The novelty wore off after a couple of days. Since then, it has sat in it's charger, almost completely unused. In fact, it's one of the worst purchases I've ever made.

    Smartphones in general are rather pointless devices. They're far bulkier than my flip phone, so they're not very good on the go. They're much less comfortable to use than my netbook or my laptop, especially when I have to do a lot of typing. They're so vastly underpowered relative to even a netbook that they're not usable for anything computationally intensive. My Kindle is a much better e-book reader.

    I learned the hard way that the usefulness of smartphones is purely a marketing creation. They look like they have potential, but in practice they're just the combination of the worst of every other type of computer or computing device.

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  5. Maybe Apple Intentionally "Allows" Jailbreaking by mastershake82 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is all speculation... but perhaps Apple purposely leaves the holes in the OS to allow this type of circumvention. Hear me out if in for a good conspiracy theory...

    I imagine there might be three areas of pressure to keep the OS closed:
    1. I'd speculate the main pressure on Apple to keep the OS closed is to prevent the piracy of app store apps to keep application authors happily creating apps for the device and not having to worry about the general population being able to copy and install them. More applications = more iPad sales to the general public.
    2. Since many iOS devices are enabled on mobile network not owned by Apple, I'm sure the networks "encourage" Apple to do their best to limit the ability of a user to use the network in unauthorized ways, such as tethering when not paying for the plan.
    3. A tertiary focus on keeping the OS closed to keep support costs down. Limiting options = easier troubleshooting.

    However, there is a contingent of users who will not buy the device unless they can do whatever they want with it / jailbreak it. Whether it's to load non-approved software or to pirate App Store applications or circumvent carrier restrictions in the mobile network enabled models. As far as I know, Apple doesn't take a loss on hardware sold, so Apple still wants their money and market share, so they leave these exploits available for them. This gives Apple the plausible deniability to the App Store application authors and the mobile network carriers ("Sorry, these dang HACKERS keep breaking through our security... we're doing our darndest but they keep getting around it... but don't worry, it's a pretty complex process and the average user doesn't bother.") and allows them to completely cut off support to people who have voided their warranty by performing the jailbreak.

    It's genius if you think about it.

    1. Re:Maybe Apple Intentionally "Allows" Jailbreaking by Microlith · · Score: 5, Interesting

      perhaps Apple purposely leaves the holes in the OS to allow this type of circumvention.

      If that was true they wouldn't have fought against the EFF when the DMCA exemption was brought up. Had they won, you can guarantee they would have been firing DMCA takedowns at everyone and anyone who created a jailbreak.

  6. Re:fp by EchoRomeo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Faceplant? I agree.

  7. Re:What does jailbreaking an iPad do? by Tarlus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The App Store offers many apps for free, and charges for others. Cydia offers many apps for free, and charges for others.

    It's not the free software that makes jailbreaking attractive, but rather the ability to customize otherwise locked-down aspects of iOS and to evade Apple's regulations.

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  8. And Disneyworld has no liquor store or strip clubs by Brannon · · Score: 4, Funny

    There are lots of examples of walled gardens in the world--Apple provides those who want it a brief repose from the malware infested cesspool. The smug technoratti hate this because (a) they don't think that nontechnical people should be allowed to safely use technology without having to kiss their rings, and (b) they want hundreds of millions of nontechnical users to subsidize their desire to tinker.

  9. Re:It's a joke, but it's pretty much spot on. by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In reality, I could give up my tablet, probably give up my laptop, and maybe give up my desktop - but you can have my smartphone when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. Despite the horrendously expensive plans they require, even with minimal data or phone usage (I use about 200 minutes and 50-60MB of cell data in a typical month), it is indepensable and the most efficient use of space I own.

    It is my media player, holding most of my 8000 audio files and a couple of audio (and print) books. It's my emergency communication line - my iMessage account is only shared between me, my daughter, and my wife. It is my business office - I have my business line as a Google Voice number, giving me access to call from my work number and get transcribed emails anywhere. It's my general notebook, with Evernote keeping all the stupid slips of paper I used to keep in my wallet. It's my personal phone, with a separate number from my work one. It's my contact book. It's my GPS. It's my general answer machine (Google, not Siri). It's my calendar - no, it's my planner for the entire family. See, we each have a Google calendar - and with Pocket Informant I can bring in all three, plus the calendars for the three boards I sit on - all in their own color. When I find out I might have to have a meeting in the evening or on a weekend, I know instantly if there's a conflict. Just as great, when I put that oddball meeting in, my wife knows I'm going to be late for dinner, or that I won't be around Saturday afternoon.

    There are so many things, and so much efficiency, wrapped up in that little device which - since I don't jabber on the phone much - will last a solid three days between charging if needed.

    Could I live without my smartphone? Yes, but I would have to replace it with 3-4x the devices or items, and I would be far less efficient. It's not something I would do voluntarily.

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