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Mammoth "Metal Moles" Tunnel Deep Beneath London

Hugh Pickens writes "BBC reports that the first of eight highly specialized Tunnel Boring Machines (TBM), each weighing nearly 1,000 tonnes, is being positioned at Royal Oak in west London where it will begin its slow journey east. It will carve out a new east-west underground link that will eventually run 73 miles from Maidenhead and Heathrow in the west, to Shenfield and Abbey Wood in the east. Described as 'voracious worms nibbling their way under London,' the 150-meter long machines will operate 24 hours a day and move through the earth at a rate of about 100m per week, taking three years to build a network of tunnels beneath the city's streets. Behind a 6.2-meter cutter head is a hydraulic arm. Massive chunks of earth are fed via a narrow-gauge railway along the interior of the machine, which is itself on wheels, as the machines are monitored from a surface control room which tracks their positions using GPS. Hydraulic rams at the front keep them within millimeters of their designated routes. 'It's not so much a machine as a mobile factory,' says Roy Slocombe, adding that the machine is staffed by a 20-strong 'tunnel gang' and comes with its own kitchen and toilet. Meanwhile, critics complain that the project is a peculiarly British example of how not to get big infrastructure schemes off the ground, because almost 30 years will have elapsed from its political conception in 1989 to its current projected completion date of 2018."

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  1. Mind you, if they run into voids, we're in trouble by Salgak1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ....as anyone who's seen the beginning of "Reign of Fire could tell you.....

  2. GPS? by Duvzo · · Score: 3, Informative

    GPS?? Underground? Cool, so my scuba GPS is just around the corner too then.

    1. Re:GPS? by hawguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      GPS?? Underground? Cool, so my scuba GPS is just around the corner too then.

      Unless your SCUBA activities consist of walking around above the water level, I don't think you're going to find a GPS based solution to help you - water attenuates the signals too much.

      However, if you're underground, there are a number of companies that can sell you GPS repeaters that will help you navigate even when you can't receive any satellite signals directly:

      http://www.vialite.co.uk/gps_band_overview.php
      http://www.leica-geosystems.us/en/GPS-Machine-Guidance_1939.htm

    2. Re:GPS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm pretty sure they know where the surface control room. It's the position of the machine that needs monitored, not the stationary control room.

    3. Re:GPS? by garyebickford · · Score: 5, Informative

      I don't know the specifics of this, but from my former work in an oilfield services company, I know that oil well drilling systems can track their own position within a few inches. One example from about 30 years ago was a set of wells drilled under an estuary in the UK. The gov. allowed the drilling company a one-acre island to do all the drilling from. They drilled down about a mile, then branched off into 10 separate holes that were drilled horizontally, following an oil seam that at times was only one foot high. The longest horizontal hole was about 10 kilometers (34000+feet, 6.6+ miles) long. Here is another reference, including info on a new well system on the North Slope that extends even farther - two miles down, then over 10 km horizontally, then back down another km or two so they can use an existing oil processing facility.

      Drilling systems are among the most sophisticated technological marvels going - they include seismic signalling, mass spectrometry, neutron activation analysis, nuclear magnetic resonance, gamma ray spectral analysis, and other really geeky stuff. The bit knows where it is geographically and where it is relative to the geological structures that it is following. The computers that sit 10 feet behind the actual bit meet tougher specs than military or aerospace - 1000 G shock, very high pressures (I forget the PSI), 400 degree F temperatures. Cooling is accomplished by the drilling fluid that is going past the outside of the drill string. Truly oil well technology is the perfect geekly combination of extreme "big heavy dangerous machines" plus extreme high tech.

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    4. Re:GPS? by hey! · · Score: 2

      So they track the control room? In case it starts moving around??

      That was the sense I got. These are *civil* engineers, after all. My wife once visited the Fundy Tidal Power Project. It had a million dollar visitor center, but the engineers still worked in white trailers.

      The impression I got was that they were going to communicate with the device from the surface near the tunnel face rather than from the tunnel mouth or bore holes. They only way GPS would make sense in this situation is if they used acoustic methods to locate the actual boring machine from a movable station.

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    5. Re:GPS? by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sometimes a white trailer is the right tool for the job. I've worked with civil engineers for years, and the ones I've worked with were pretty full-on professional. If a job needs a white trailer, that's what they trot out. If the job needs a million dollar visitor centre, then that goes into the spec.

      It's probably worth mentioning that there's GPS, and then there's GPS. The sort that we are used to ("In 400 metres, exit ramp, on left, to Proposed Western Freeway"*) depends entirely on trig between orbiting satellites, another more sophisticated type augments that with intertial guidance systems. If you can read the RF from the satellites, you can use the former - and that depends on a combination of antenna design and how much (generally metal) is in the way that might soak up the radio frequency energy before it gets to the box. To a point, you can make up a lot of signal strength with a higher-spec antenna.

      The latter type of (what's erroneously, but conveniently called GPS), the inertial guidance system, measures and sums accelerations and gives you a vector -- sort of like summing the movements of a small mass in an enclosed box over time. These can use accelerometers and gyroscopes to add up quite small movements and tell a computer in summary that it's gone this far, in this direction, over this interval of time. If it sounds complex, you're right -- but the technology has been available since the advent of the ICBM.

      The Wikipedia entry on the subject is really quite good -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_guidance_system -- worth reading (warning, there is a lure and fascination in these things, especially when you get to laser gyroscopes...)

      And as much as I like my little Garman Nuvi (*yes, it really did give me that direction once) it wouldn't be the GPS of choice for locating a major piece of underground tunnelling kit.

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    6. Re:GPS? by multiplexo · · Score: 2

      That's really cool. You know, one of these machines would make a really cool hideout for a James Bond villain. The only things you'd need to add to make it perfect are a prominently labelled self-destruct switch and a pool full of sharks with frickin' lasers on their heads.

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    7. Re:GPS? by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Lasers are used underground to determine the location. If there are turns, mirrors are used.

    8. Re:GPS? by Zinho · · Score: 2

      I'm with you; I'd rather see hydrocarbons used as lubricants/raw materials for manufacture than burned as energy. Which makes my job at Halliburton somewhat ironic, but life's funny that way.

      The good news is that energy companies (and energy service companies) are eying the alternative energy market as an exit strategy from oil-as-energy. Halliburton does geothermal well cementing, and is trying to advance the art so the wells and plants can be more productive. Challenges include seismic instability, high permeability of the rock layers (you pick places where there are lots of natural fractures), and balancing the need for insulation/strength/durability of the cement. None of these problems are insurmountable, but making geothermal cost competitive with oil is challenging.

      I'm personally surprised that we don't see closed-loop geothermal power systems. It seems like they're all farcture-and-collect style systems. Admittedly, fracture-and-collect exposes the water to more surface area of rock, and the wells are cheaper to drill. On the other hand, the operator wouldn't have to deal with produced sand/salt/corrosives that will invariably result from mingling water with rocks downhole, and there wouldn't be any issue with water losses.* If I had to take a guess, though, no-one does it for the same reason that oil/gas operators in the Rockies don't buy downhole sand control solutions - it's an upfront cost that they have to justify to a beancounter rather than an operating cost they can balance against ongoing profits (cost of doing business and all that...).

      *Seriously, who approves these lossy geothermal systems in deserts? When there are crops to irrigate and drinking water needed for houses (not to mention sensitive ecosystems) I have trouble seeing how the water use of (big pdf warning!) nearly a gallon per kWh is practical.

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  3. Why exaggerate? by nuckfuts · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From the summary:

    the 150-meter long machines...

    From the article:

    The 140 metre long, fully assembled tunnel boring machine...

    At 140 metres, each TBM would just fit just inside the boundaries of a cricket oval.

    Was 140 meters not impressive enough, so the submitter had to add 10 meters?

    1. Re:Why exaggerate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      TIL 140 metres = 150 meters. It's not just a wonky British spelling.

    2. Re:Why exaggerate? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Was 140 meters not impressive enough, so the submitter had to add 10 meters?

      He's a guy - exaggerating a bit about length is reflexive.

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    3. Re:Why exaggerate? by Nemyst · · Score: 4, Funny

      Obviously the submitter is American and did the conversion from British-meters to American-meters.

    4. Re:Why exaggerate? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Metres. A metre is a measure of length. A meter is a thing you measure with. A metre meter is a stick one metre long. Damn yanks overloading words, it's as if they're speaking C++...

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    5. Re:Why exaggerate? by FormOfActionBanana · · Score: 3, Informative

      Humphrey Davey called it Aluminum... and some jerk in a British publication reviewed his work and said "Aluminium" sounded more Latin. From then onward... chaos.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium#Etymology

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  4. Re:comparative position? by Finallyjoined!!! · · Score: 4, Informative

    How does London's subway system compare to everyone elses?

    It's older than any other subway system.... Which would make them the original leader, eh?

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  5. Meh. by hey! · · Score: 3, Funny

    Call me when they can load one up on a big green supersonic aircraft and deploy it anywhere in the world on a moment's notice.

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  6. Dune by sixtyeight · · Score: 2, Funny

    We may as well get all of the Dune references out of the way here in this one thread.

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    1. Re:Dune by The+Wild+Norseman · · Score: 2

      What's that thundering noise underground? Is it a worm? No, it's just a boring machine.

      A boring machine?? OH MY GOD! They've figured out how to clone Alistair Darling!!

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  7. Re:comparative position? by glwtta · · Score: 5, Funny

    It has more gaps than any other system - you have to constantly mind them.

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  8. Nothing 'peculiarly British' about it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's nothing peculiarly British about partisan politics resulting in funding taking years to be approved and plenty of NIMBYs protesting the plans!

  9. Re:comparative position? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    This isn't about the London Underground at all, it is a heavy rail link.

  10. Re:"Peculiarly British" by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Funny

    " . . . well, instead of a Mammoth Metal Mole, we could build this Giant Wooden Rabbit . . . "

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  11. Re:This is awesome, but... by Tastecicles · · Score: 2

    it's not unique at all - the design of the TBMs is identical to those used in the Eden (Channel Tunnel) Project, the Gotthard Base Tunnel, others at Orlovski, Niagara, Yucca... only difference being the number of tunnels excavated, the number of TBMs used in each project, and the type of rock chewed through.

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  12. Re:Tunnelling under London... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

    Someone hasn't played Jenga, apparently.

    Hoping not to disturb your world view overmuch, but there is this interesting concept of reality.

    You might try it sometime - it's different enough at any rate.

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  13. Re:Whitechapel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    The place is a complete dump.

    To be fair, many people not from London would say the same about all of our illustrious capital.

  14. Re:comparative position? by sixtyeight · · Score: 3, Interesting

    London's system appears to be conveniently bi-directional.

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  15. Buy now by fantomas · · Score: 2

    You wait til a superfast train connection stops there. House prices will go up again... Fast connection across London stopping there will mean it's going to go up in the world.

  16. Re:comparative position? by Noughmad · · Score: 5, Funny

    It has more gaps than any other system - you have to constantly mind them.

    That's why I prefer the Moscow Metro. Because there, the gap minds you.

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  17. Life doesn't begin at conception by goodmanj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can't count the life of a project from the date someone first thought of it. By that measure, the Apollo moon landing project took at least 100 years. You should start counting from the date significant funding began, which in this case is 2010. Not bad, compared to, say, Boston's Big Dig.

    1. Re:Life doesn't begin at conception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      30 years only seems like a long time to people in their 20s.

  18. Re:comparative position? by alex67500 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sorry, but no, it's in Cumbria, in the North of England. http://g.co/maps/4f64r

    And I lost one mod point for you...

  19. Rules Change Re:Whitechapel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They had to add the stop because the Alternate Thursday Rule, when applied in conjunction with the Left-Hand Turns Only Method, caused too many people to end up in the middle of the Thames.

  20. A Bave New World, with just a handful of men by Master+Moose · · Score: 2

    ARTILLERYMAN: We're gonna build a whole new world for ourselves. Look, they
    clap eyes on us and we're dead, right?

    So we gotta make a new life where they'll never find us. You know where?
    Underground.

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  21. Have they .... by PPH · · Score: 2

    ... consulted with Professor Quatermass before commencing excavation?

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  22. Re:Tunnelling under London... by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, it isn't going to do anything, because they don't want the tunnels collapsing...

    This isn't like pumping water, gas or oil out from under the ground - the tunnels need to be servicable and usable after the fact, otherwise there isn't any point in making them, so they get lined with concrete or some other material which keeps them rigid and bearing the weight of the ground above them.

    Bear in mind that they've been doing this in London for 200 years or more, what with the London Underground, service tunnels, Royal Mail tunnels, BT telecommunications tunnels etc etc etc. London is criscrossed with tunnels already, 99% of them not having any issue on the surface at all. They've got experience in this.

  23. Re:Whitechapel by ChumpusRex2003 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Whitechapel already has a station with 3 lines.

    In fact, you know that things are strange in Whitechapel, because the underground trains run overground, and the overground trains run underground.

  24. Re:comparative position? by rkww · · Score: 4, Informative

    The first London subway line opened in 1863, so it's not a new thing. In terms of milage, it's the second largest metro system in the world (ref. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metro_systems) And 45% of its 249 miles are underground. There are some facts and figures here: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/modesoftransport/londonunderground/1608.aspx

  25. Re:comparative position? by 91degrees · · Score: 2

    This isn't really part of the London Underground. It's a very long mainline railway tunnel.

    "The Tube", like most major metropolitan underground systems is extremely overloaded, but actually a pretty good network, and well integrated with the mainline. It has its problems, the main one being expense. It is a major target of investment, mainly because the city depends on it to operate. Many parts of it are pretty old, but this is more a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

  26. Took the Brits only 30 years? by tomhath · · Score: 2

    Pffft, Amateurs. Boston's Big Dig is only 3.5 miles long and it took 35 years from first review to completion.

  27. Re:Sulfur by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

    I suppose you would also want all other homophones to be spelled the same way, right, rite, wright, write?

    I made no such claim, however, it would actually help linguistic clarity to have all homophones be homographs.

    English has never been a phonetic language, neither the UK nor the US version.

    Yes, it was. Old English and Middle English are phonetic, but Modern English has adopted many words never officially in the precursor languages. Bureau is not phonetic, but is an English word, even if it retains its French spelling and approximately French pronunciation. But such adoptions post-date the inception of the language called "English."

  28. Re:Good on London for supporting public transport by garyebickford · · Score: 3, Interesting

    About 10 years ago I was commuting via the bus for a while, and was curious about the true efficiency. So I took the total amount of fuel that the bus system was reported to use in a year, and divided by the number of passengers and total miles driven (all part of their annual report). My conclusion was that the bus system got about 12 passenger miles per gallon averaged over all their routes and schedules. Unfortunately for most people the real price of taking the bus, besided the bus fare, was the loss of time. My commute took over an hour each way, and could be driven even in bad traffic in about 25 minutes. At the time I was only making $15/hour, so the opportunity cost to me of taking the bus was very conservatively over an hour per day or $15 per day (not even counting the time to walk out to and wait for the bus, and the restriction on my work schedule - the last bus home went by at about 6:30 PM) - enough to buy a very nice car if I wanted to.

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  29. Re:comparative position? by digitig · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's sort of debatable. The tunnels are too small for it to work as a heavy rail link as defined in European rail standards (as was pointed out at a presentation I was at recently, they could get a European standard-sized heavy rail locomotive through the tunnel but not operate it through the tunnel because there's no room for safe electrical separations). But there's a policy decision for it not to be a metro system, which would allow smaller units. So it's actually neither one nor the other; a heavy rail system that is too light to be a heavy rail system. Say one thing for the British: we can compromise.

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  30. Re:Britsh Technology by newcastlejon · · Score: 2

    I was never troubled by Lucas electrics. Having been burned by one too many Lucas-blighted cars I decided to rip out all the wiring and do it again properly.

    It was nice being able to turn the headlights on without the smell of burning insulation.

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  31. Re:Whitechapel by digitig · · Score: 2

    It has an excellent art galley.

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  32. Re:comparative position? by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 3, Informative

    In fairness, there are genuine improvements coming down the line. (Sorry...) These are at least partly driven by a desire not to look like idiots when a few million extra people are around for the Olympics later this year.

    New trains with air-conditioning and a walk-through design, as used in underground networks such as those in Paris and Rome, have been rolling out for a year or so. They are replacing one line at a time and due to cover 40% of the network by 2015.

    Also, a deal was announced just last week for Virgin Media to provide WiFi access on the London Underground during the 2012 Olympics, though it only covers station areas and not the trains themselves while they are in the tunnels. Its stated goal is to allow travellers to respond more quickly to disruption and avoid the busiest areas (which are almost certainly going to be flooded far beyond capacity at peak times during the Olympics, whatever happens).

    The system is still nowhere near the level of, for example, the other European capitals I mentioned, though, and won't get there any time soon.

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  33. Re:Tunnelling under London... by xaxa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's sincerely reassuring then, and I thank you. I hadn't thought they could successfully reinforce tunnels a tenth of a kilometer wide.

    Um, what?

    The tunnel diameter is 6.2 metres, i.e. a bit bigger than the cross section of a train + emergency walkway. The new, underground station platforms will be 250 metres long (wow!) but still only ~18m diameter (my guess from the mock-up video). Presumably they've planned for enough space for most of the "some 1,500 passengers ... carried in each train at peak periods" to get off at a single station.

    Tunnelling can cause problems though. For example, London's local Quake II level (see picture) required some special work to avoid the Houses of Parliament collapsing.

  34. Re:Mind you, if they run into voids, we're in trou by Ghaoth · · Score: 2

    Doesn't anyone remember Hobb's Lane in London and Quatermass adn the Pit?

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  35. Re:Britsh Technology by Jeremi · · Score: 2

    they build exciting and reliable sports cars, too

    Actually it's German technology, the British merely bought a couple (and will sell them back to the German's when they're done with them).

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  36. Re:comparative position? by jo_ham · · Score: 3, Informative

    They are actually retrofitting AC systems into the newer rolling stock. It's just difficult due to the size of the tunnels, which places quite strict limits on the size of the train but more importantly, the ability to dump all that waste heat - you can't just pump it into the tunnels as it's already quite warm down there.

    You need to be able to use heat exchangers that are very efficient, or cycle the heat out of a transfer medium when the train comes up above ground (as they all tend to do outside of the centre).

  37. Re:comparative position? by chill · · Score: 4, Informative

    No. London's predates New York's by about 41 years. (1863 vs 1904). Glasgow's is dated to 1896, so even the Scots beat the Yanks to this.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metro_systems

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  38. Re:Britsh Technology by afidel · · Score: 2

    Really? Normally for bigger projects like this the TBM's are just crossed at the midpoint and left buried since the cutter head can't fit inside of a finished tunnel and the midpoint is normally somewhere where you can't simply bring a TBM to the surface.

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  39. Uhm. by CountBrass · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You have heard of the Channel Tunnel haven't you?

    They dug from both ends and met in the middle, under much deeper water than the Thames, and were only a centimetre out.

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  40. Re:comparative position? by Patch86 · · Score: 3, Informative

    London's Underground is what is usually considered its "subway" system. It's the oldest in the world, and one of the most comprehensive.

    This, however, is something else. This is a mainline railway route which is going under central London. Tube trains (on the London Underground) are small vehicles with an odd cross-section, so that they can go through smaller tunnels, and are powered by "four rail electrification". This new Crossrail line is designed for full-sized intercity trains, with normal overhead-wire electrification. This is part of why it's such a big project.