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Garden Gnome Tests Earth's Gravity

sciencehabit writes "Researchers have long hypothesized that objects weigh less at Earth's equator because the planet's spin and shape lessen gravity's pull there versus at the poles. Satellite accelerometers have confirmed this, but a digital scale manufacturer decided to test things the old-fashioned way. Enter the Kern garden gnome. When placed on a scale at the South Pole, the intrepid ornament weighed 309.82 grams versus 307.86 grams at the equator, a difference of 0.6%."

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  1. This is why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I buy my drugs at the North pole.

    1. Re:This is why by PacoCheezdom · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But if you bought them at the equator, you'd get a .6% discount! It's pay by weight, you know.

    2. Re:This is why by NicknameAvailable · · Score: 4, Funny

      But if you bought them at the equator, you'd get a .6% discount! It's pay by weight, you know.

      He's clearly high.

    3. Re:This is why by stoofa · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe he has so many drugs in his system that he's developed a paranoid fear of gnomes and heard rumours they were gathering on the equator.

    4. Re:This is why by shugah · · Score: 3, Funny

      I make it a rule; never buy drugs from gnomes.

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    5. Re:This is why by stoofa · · Score: 2

      Sounds fairy snuff to me.

  2. Garden Gnome Tests Earth's Gravity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So it has come to this.

    1. Re:Garden Gnome Tests Earth's Gravity? by NicknameAvailable · · Score: 5, Funny
  3. .6 percent by Iamthecheese · · Score: 2

    That should be more than enough for heavy metal arbitrage.

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    1. Re:.6 percent by istartedi · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but if you could actually find an arbitrage and keep it secret long enough then you'd be rich and you could have all the hookers and blow you want no matter how much you weigh and it wouldn't matter if you were just some bored loser who had nothing better to do than post on Slashdot in annoyingly long runon sentances in between chapters of books by Faulkner who is your literary idol.

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  4. Next to the standard kilogram by buchner.johannes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Next to the standard kilogram, there will be a standard garden gnome.

    0.6% is not a small number. I'm looking forward to discussing the next international health survey and asking "Did you normalize your weights for gravitational variance?"

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    1. Re:Next to the standard kilogram by VanGarrett · · Score: 2

      My problem with the use of a "gram" to make this measurement, is that a "gram" is a measurement of Mass, rather than a measurement of weight. By presenting the weight in grams, they have illustrated the inaccuracy of their scale, rather than the variance of local gravity. As there doesn't appear to be a unit of weight in the Metric system, they perhaps should have expressed the value in Pounds.

  5. Makes sense by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know that, whenever I see a garden gnome, I feel a powerful urge to use it to test gravity. Especially if there's a large asphalt or cement driveway nearby.

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    1. Re:Makes sense by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 2

      Incidentally, Valve thought the same thing. It was somewhat of a different method, however.

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  6. We are the 0.6% by stevegee58 · · Score: 2

    Occupy the South Pole!

  7. Wrong units... by MrKevvy · · Score: 5, Informative

    "When placed on a scale at the South Pole, the intrepid ornament weighed 309.82 grams versus 307.86 grams at the equator..."

    The grams is a unit of mass, which is invariant depending on gravity. The metric unit of weight is the kilopond.

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    1. Re:Wrong units... by PRMan · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's why we in the US still use pounds. That way, it's always accurate.

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    2. Re:Wrong units... by tepples · · Score: 4, Informative

      True. But in fact, these scales appear to measure things in kgf and cut off the f, giving 0.30982 kgf vs. 0.30786 kgf.

      Random related anecdote: I used to work for an e-tailer, and trade-legal scales used for calculating postage for goods to be shipped to a customer have to have buttons to calibrate for the gravity at any given latitude. In dimensional terms, this acts as a conversion factor from kgf to kg.

    3. Re:Wrong units... by suomynonAyletamitlU · · Score: 4, Informative

      Million-dolar spacecraft have been lost for less. Units matter.

      I don't know why a company that made scales would make that particular mistake, but then, if NASA can do it, who am I to judge.

    4. Re:Wrong units... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Imperial (US) unit of mass if the Slug (really - look it up). So we here in the US have the same dichotomy.

    5. Re:Wrong units... by snookums · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I once saw an ad for a digital bathroom scale that claimed it "never needs calibrating" and was "accurate to 0.1%". I immediately called bullshit* on this in my head and am glad to know that I was justified in doing so.

      * Note that this was in Australia where we actually measure our mass in kg, rather than our weight in lb. It may well have been that accurate as a weighing machine, but not as a "massing" machine.

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    6. Re:Wrong units... by pnewhook · · Score: 2

      The grams is a unit of mass, which is invariant depending on gravity. The metric unit of weight is the kilopond [wikipedia.org].

      Sort of. The metric system is no longer used and has been replaced with SI. The kilopond or kgf is not part of the recognized SI system, and instead it used the Newton (N). When people now mention metric they actually are saying SI, but regardless, kilopond is not in that system of measures.

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    7. Re:Wrong units... by pnewhook · · Score: 2

      Why would you say it is a mistake? The company makes scales that measure in grams (a convention although strictly inaccurate). They showed an object of the same mass measures differently. The only variable that changed when measuring force is gravity, therefore they proved what they set out to prove. There is no mistake there at all.

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    8. Re:Wrong units... by suomynonAyletamitlU · · Score: 2

      Why would you say it is a mistake?

      They make high precision scales, and they're going around the world saying, "Look how our scale gives a different mass measurement for the same object in different places." In the video on their site they talk about how they do in fact go out of their way to adjust the scales for local gravity (wherever they're being shipped to? Somehow?), but they could push that emphasis more.

      What they're showing is that the mass reading (as opposed to weight reading, which is accurate) is not consistent when you move them around the world, and that their instruments in particular are sensitive enough to be affected. That's true and important, but they should be making more of a fuss about their calibration services if they're going to be showing off that sensitivity.

    9. Re:Wrong units... by artor3 · · Score: 2

      Not quite. The slug is a unit of mass, but so is the pound ...sometimes. We have the pound-mass and the pound-force, with the latter being described as the weight of an object with a mass of one pound-mass under standard Earth gravity. The slug is then defined based on the pound-force as an amount of mass that accelerates at 1 ft/s^2 when exposed to one pound-force of force.

      If you're thinking that having two nearly identically named units to describe two closely linked parameters is just asking for someone to mix them up, the congratulations -- you've found one of the many flaws of the Imperial measurement system.

  8. Hmm... by xstonedogx · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does it also test the Earth's travelocity?

    (I'm so, so sorry. I'm a sick man. I need help.)

  9. spin doesn't decrease gravity's pull by decora · · Score: 2

    the mass of the earth is the same whether it's spinning or not. the spin causes centripetal acceleration, which is in the opposite direction of the acceleration due to gravity. i.e. the 'centrifugal force' cancels out a little bit of the 'gravitational force', but the gravity force itself is only slightly different because of shape, not because of the spin itself.

    or am i missing something?

  10. Wrong units by mmontour · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's sometimes an acceptable shorthand to express a weight in grams, but not when that's the whole point of the story. The _mass_ in grams is (hopefully) not changing. The _weight_ in newtons (or any other dimensionally-correct unit you prefer) is what's changing.

    If you're using a device that measures weight and reports it in grams, then you need to re-calibrate it against a known reference mass at each new location.

    p.s. don't forget about buoyancy. Accurate measurements need to be done in a vacuum chamber.

    1. Re:Wrong units by 32771 · · Score: 2

      I'm sure we could measure the mass of the garden gnome through inertial measurements.

      You know accelerate the thing real hard and then measure the dent it leaves in the wall of the wall of the vacuum chamber.

      Maybe we can get the weight through ballistic measurements in the vacuum chamber? Where it lands is determined by gravity.

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  11. Re:lost in transport? by ackthpt · · Score: 2

    how much was lost during transport?

    Pretty certain it had the same number of Gnomons (Gn) at both locations, but we'll have to wait for the reports to come in from GIT (Gnomic Institute of Technocracy)

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  12. Traspeed by tepples · · Score: 2

    Does it also test the Earth's travelocity?

    Imagine a travel agency called "Traspeed". It'd be like Hotwire or Priceline, filling unused seats on a flight and unused rooms in a hotel. Except you wouldn't even get to pick where your vacation will be, just "a ski resort" or "a beach resort" or "an amusement park" or the like. So you never know where you're going, but you know how fast you'll get there.

    1. Re:Traspeed by organgtool · · Score: 2

      So you never know where you're going, but you know how fast you'll get there.

      Instead of "Traspeed", may I suggest "Heisencation"?

  13. Earth != sphere by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

    The earth's shape is a geoid, which is flattened compared to a sphere. Because the distance from center of mass to the surface is smaller at the poles than at the equator, gravity is stronger at the poles, and the weight of an equal mass is greater.

  14. Missing from the summary. by MasseKid · · Score: 2

    1) The object's mass
    2) The object's theoretical weight difference at the different locations
    3) The error bounds on the measurement.

    Without any of this, I have no idea if this is shocking news, or merely expected. And I'm on slash dot, while it might be contained within the article, I don't come here to RTFA.

  15. Last act by The+Infamous+Grimace · · Score: 2

    Afterwards, did they blast it into space?

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  16. correction things would 'weigh more' w/o spin by decora · · Score: 2

    and if the earth sped up by a huge amount, things would 'weigh' a lot less. in fact, some things would go flying off into space... if earths outer edge somehow managed to reach escape velocity (in some unimaginable cataclysm). gravity itself wouldn't have changed though.

  17. Physics FAIL by Arancaytar · · Score: 2

    the intrepid ornament weighed 309.82 grams versus 307.86 grams at the equator, a difference of 0.6%

    This sentence is completely without sense. Barring relativistic effects, the object's mass in grams remains constant. One of those masses is correct (possibly), the other is a measuring error introduced by a scale not calibrated correctly for local gravity. The actual discrepancy is in the weight of the object in Newtons. This is, like, middle-school physics stuff.

    That's like using an iron yardstick to determine that one meter in summer is equal to about 1.005 meters in winter, and conclude that space itself expands and contracts.

  18. Re:yes but they are claiming that the spin by kiwimate · · Score: 2

    an interesting question about your point is this - if you take stuff to the top of a mountain, does it weigh 'more' or 'less' than at sea level?

    More. High school physics teaches us that F=(GM1M2)/R squared

  19. Re:yes but they are claiming that the spin by enrgeeman · · Score: 2

    You mean less, I hope. It weighs less at the top of a mountain than it would at sea level because the distance(R) is bigger.

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  20. Re:yes but they are claiming that the spin by cwebster · · Score: 2

    changes gravity.

    i.e. they are specifically claiming that 'gravity is different due to the spin'. but the spin is only relevant in that the earth's "geoid" shape is thought to be due to the spin. the spin itself doesnt change how gravity works. at least not that i am aware of. if the earth stopped spinning all of a sudden, but remained a geoid... then the gravity at the poles wouldn't change, nor would the gravity at the equator. the only thing gone would be the centripetal acceleration due to spin. things would 'weigh less' because they lacked centripetal acceleration not because gravity suddenly changed.

    an interesting question about your point is this - if you take stuff to the top of a mountain, does it weigh 'more' or 'less' than at sea level?

    The spin does cause the Earth to be shaped like an oblate spheroid as you mention but it does alter the gravity you experience as well. The local balance of forces if you are at rest relative to the Earth involves gravitational force and an apparent force (centrifugal) caused by centripetal acceleration. This alters your effective gravity that you experience ever so slightly (ie g_eff = g_newtonian + f_cent, where f is a specific force [units ms-2 or N/kg]) .

  21. Natural selection! by dsrg · · Score: 2

    I once heard that the reason everything falls downwards is that everything that falls UPWARDS (or sideways) have long since disappeared into space, and have therefore not been able to breed. So everything that's still here on Earth has the "fall downwards"-gene still present.

    Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SNZuOHnFDk (In Swedish, but you get the idea.)

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  22. I'm surprised no one has raised this... by ilsaloving · · Score: 2

    Has an equivalent test been done with KDE?