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'Antimagnet' Cloak Hides Objects From Magnetic Fields

ananyo writes "Researchers have made a cloak that can hide objects from static magnetic fields, realizing a theoretical prediction they made last year. This 'antimagnet' could have medical applications, but could also be used to subvert airport security. The cloak's interior is lined with turns of tape made from a high-temperature superconductor. Superconductors repel magnetic fields, so any magnetic field enclosed within a superconductor would be undetectable from outside. But the superconductor itself would still perturb an external magnetic field, so the researchers coated its external side with an ordinary ferromagnet. The superconductor tries to repel external field lines, whereas the ferromagnet tries to draw them in — together, the two layers cancel each other out (abstract)."

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  1. Airport security? by hpa · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Hey, mind if I take in this superconductor cooler through the checkpoint?"

    1. Re:Airport security? by Brad1138 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't assume airport security adheres to any sort of logic...

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    2. Re:Airport security? by tylerni7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No look, this is perfect. We convince DHS that the terrorists are trying to develop room temperature superconductors to subvert metal detectors and security checkpoints.

      Then, clearly the solution is for DHS to start giving obscene amounts of money to physicists in the USA to develop the technology first! It's pretty much a win-win-win situation.

    3. Re:Airport security? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Amazing isn't it? Rea searchers make a breakthrough in practical physics, and all anyone can think about is terrorists!

      Be afraid people! There could be one under your bed right now!

    4. Re:Airport security? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      There's a red under every bed.

    5. Re:Airport security? by drkich · · Score: 2

      It's called strip search, the anti-magnet detector

    6. Re:Airport security? by Malties · · Score: 2

      "Oh that cloud of smoke coming from under my trenchcoat? That's nothing"

    7. Re:Airport security? by Ihmhi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Besides, it's much easier to bypass airport security. Just be rich.

      What, poor people can't get in through the rich lines? Well, a Fortune 500 CEO flying on a private jet surely has assistants, security, and other personnel, and he'll be damned if some "airport security" will hold up his tee time in Cabo!

      I wonder how long it will take for someone to exploit this particular attack vector.

  2. MRI by nschubach · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If I understand correctly, they should be able to envelope something like an MRI so that you don't have to worry about metal bits carried into the room?

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    1. Re:MRI by AdrianKemp · · Score: 2

      Well, yes but no.

      You only need half of the equation (the superconductor) to do that. You don't care about "cloaking" anything when trying to dissipate the MRI field, you just get rid of it.

      As far as I know (and admittedly, when it comes to MRI machines that isn't a great deal) there isn't any real technical hurdle regarding removing it's magnetic field. It would be annoying (keeping even a high temperature super conductor cool), expensive, and a lot harder than just telling everyone to empty their pockets.

    2. Re:MRI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      It renders the object invisible to static magnetic fields. MRI utilizes rapidly changing magnetic fields to encode position. This is still a problem.

  3. Subvert airport security? by TheLink · · Score: 2

    You could use a zillion things to subvert airport security.

    Or use a private plane. Those stars don't seem to have trouble loading up private planes with all sorts of stuff.

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  4. No problem for airport security by marcosdumay · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Since metal detectors use electromagnetic waves (call those non-static magnetic fields if you want), instead of magnetic fields, that cloak wouldn't be a problem at all. Well, ok, it would cloak its interior, like any piece of conductor would. It would also trigger the alarm itself, like any piece of conductor.

    But now, why are people so concerned about airport security anyway? The invention has no relation to it.

    1. Re:No problem for airport security by jdgeorge · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But now, why are people so concerned about airport security anyway? The invention has no relation to it.

      They're not really concerned with airport security. Slashdotters desperately crave upward moderation. Posting a clever remark related to a popular meme is the easiest way to satisfy that desire.

    2. Re:No problem for airport security by JustAnotherIdiot · · Score: 2
      FTFA:

      This 'antimagnet' could have medical applications, but might also subvert airport security.

      First paragraph, at least read that far dude.

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  5. Tinfoil hat replacement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally, a tinfoil hat replacement. Everyone knows that some aliens use magnets and not EM waves.

    1. Re:Tinfoil hat replacement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      It it really a tin foil hat replacement?

      The reason I ask is that some have been misled to believe that aluminum foil works just as well. But those of us who use actual tin foil hats know that aluminum foil doesn't work.

      "They" can penetrate aluminum foil with their mind control rays so "they" worked to drive down the price of aluminum foil while making real tin foil more expensive. This was done in conjunction with a "grass roots" whisper campaign selling the virtues of aluminum foil as blocking their mind control rays. Once the unaware switch to non-protecting aluminum foil from the fully protecting tin foil, the first thing "they" do is make the wearer believe that the aluminum foil is effective. And over time their campaign gains traction as fewer and fewer of us wear real tin foil hats.

      Is this yet another attempt to get people away from the safety of real tin foil hat protection? Personally, I'm not taking the chance and will stick with my tin foil hat.

  6. High temperature superconductor, misleading by mark-t · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because it's not "high temperature" in any sense that would be understood by the term.

    It's called high temperature because it's significantly hotter than temperatures where superconductivity occurs in ordinary metals (around 30K). But even the highest temperature at which superconductivity has ever been observed is still freakin' cold... over a hundred degrees below 0

    Until room temperature superconductivity is discovered (an enormous breakthrough in physics that would have countless applications), nothing's getting by airport security with this mechanism.

    1. Re:High temperature superconductor, misleading by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That was my first thought. But this might end up being a good prod to get true high temperature superconductor research a super boost. One of the main methods used to detect submarines in the military are magnetic anomaly detectors usually attached to a plane or helicopter. The aircraft don't even need to dip them in the water, just fly over and look for magnetic anomalies (granted the sub needs to be fairly close... but I'm not sure if the military tells anyone what counts as really close). So the crux is that if this will help hide their subs, DARPA and the military might be inclined to shovel piles of money into high temperature superconductors. Although I'm sure they have financed this in the past, this direct applications of stealth for submarines could help with an improved cash flow (or maybe this project is financed this way already.... ?). mmmmm blah blah blah ... profit! Or something like that.

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  7. Protect magnetic storage? by danaris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So...is this something that could someday be used to protect magnetic storage media from accidental (or even deliberate) exposure to magnetic fields?

    Dan Aris

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  8. The terrorists have won. by Habberhead · · Score: 2

    Why is it that we have come to a point where the first thing we think of for a cool new technology application like this is "could be used to subvert airport security"??

    I am sick and disgusted of where we have arrived.

    I want off.

  9. Submarines by tsotha · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This could be a big deal in submarine warfare if they can get the temperature up. With the advent of AIP, navies are having to rely on second-string technologies like Magnetic Anomaly Detectors.

  10. Re:This solves what? New? by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 3, Informative
    I was about to mention mumetal, but its claim to fame is very high permeability. It doesn't repel magnetic fields, it Shamwows them. I suppose if the mumetal is saturated from the inside, then it doesn't hide the object from an external field. Although it takes a lot to saturate properly treated mumetal.

    Old man story time. My Tektronix 547 CRT oscilloscope has its CRT encased in a mumetal shield. I got a powerful magnet and put it on the side of the case, the trace didn't budge at all. Great stuff. Of course, mumetal loses its properites if it's dinged, deformed or otherwise mechanically abused.

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  11. 'high temp' superconductors by pswPhD · · Score: 2

    Currently, high temperature superconductors work up to around 100K- which is about -170C. So currently you would need a liquid nitrogen cylinder to contain the cloak and keep it cold enough. Then you would need to hide that in some other way. somehow I don't think that is likely. Room temperature superconductors are some way off- they know how low temperature (few kelvin) superconductors work, but are not sure how the high temperature conductors work- so researchers are not sure how to improve on the current designs.

  12. Re:Over my head 3 lines in .... by RDW · · Score: 2

    Should have studied more in physics ...

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  13. Liquid nitrogen airport security epic fail ... by JoeGee · · Score: 2

    Terrorist Jim: Bob, we will have you wear the antimagnet cloaking suit. All we have to do is have you walk into a restroom right before you go through the scanner, open this forty gallon Thermos container and pour the liquid nitrogen all over yourself.

    You'll walk to airport security and pass through the security check with no problems.

    Day of the terrorist strike.

    Bob enters the airport dragging a heavy carry-on suitcase. His suit is disproportionately large compared to his body, and seems quite stiff. He moves with great difficulty.

    He takes his luggage into the airport restroom and enters a bathroom stall. Witnesses report a hissing noise and a strange fog coming from under the stall door. There's a splashing noise, followed by a sizzling sound and a loud wail. Bob flings open the bathroom stall to reveal his suit, bathed in vapor. Steam rises from his exposed cracked skin. He takes two steps and falls to the floor, writhing in pain, as parts of his suit shatter and skin sloughs from his hands.

    Terrorist Jim (upon seeing the news reports): So next time, we strap a small refrigeration unit to Sam's back ...

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  14. Not just the rich by mcrbids · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anybody who has their own plane pretty much does whatever they want. I've landed my plane at large airports (EG: Oakland, CA) with extensive security lines for commercial flights, and driven my car out to the plane in order to load it. The only credentials I need are the keys to a plane and maybe a driver's license.

    I've landed my private plane at big airports in order to hook up with commercial flights, and it's truly absurd to land, walk in off the tarmac, be personally greeted at the private aviation side of the airport, and then take a shuttle to be treated like a potential criminal in a cattle stock yard. This affords me very little respect for the TSA.

    You don't need to be a Fortune 500 CEO to have a private plane, the actual cost to own (especially for a time share aka "flight club") can be similar in cost to owning a recent model car.

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