AT&T Charged US Taxpayers $16 Million For Nigerian Fraud Calls
McGruber writes "Bloomberg News is reporting that AT&T got more than $16 million from the U.S. government to run Telecommunications Relay Services, intended to help the hearing- and speech-impaired. However, as many as '95 percent of the calls in AT&T's hearing- impaired program were made by people outside the U.S. attempting to defraud merchants through the use of stolen credit cards, counterfeit checks and money orders.' According to the DoJ, 'AT&T in 2004, after getting complaints from merchants, determined the Internet Protocol addresses of 10 of the top 12 users of the service were abroad, primarily in Lagos, Nigeria.' The DOJ intervened in the whistle-blower lawsuit Lyttle v. AT&T Communications of Pennsylvania, 10-01376, U.S. District Court, Western District of Pennsylvania (Pittsburgh). The DOJ is seeking triple damages from AT&T."
It's treble, not triple.
.. the only ones getting hurt by the fines will AT&T's customers when they see their bills increase.
I always laugh when a lawyer or judge or politician starts screaming about hitting a business with a financial loss to punish them for fraud or negligence or some other crime or scam. Where do they think that that money is going to come from? Do they think that the CEOs are going to pay it from their own pockets?
That money will come directly from consumers and subscribers. Most who will be completely unaware of this lawsuit. AT&T will up the rates or charge extra for other services or products and that will pay off whatever losses are from this lawsuit.
Basically only the consumers lose. The Nigerian scammers make their money. AT&T makes its money back eventually. The judges and lawyers make their money. And the consumers and taxpayers foot the bill for everything. It's a great system.
Back then, it was the Sprint relay service. Callers would want to buy a dozen flat panel monitors, and offer a credit card and U.S. shipping address. Card was usually bogus, but sometimes not. We accepted a few orders but when the card would not approve we just dumped them - and callers would call back to order huge quantities of more expensive gear. We actually started refusing these calls from Sprint outright, got threatened with an ADA suit, and then magically they all stopped. I wonder if Sprint figured it out, or if the clan just moved on. Our defense against the ADA complaint was that we did not do business with foreign customers, no matter the shipping address. Part of this scam was to delay the shipments, dispute the charges, get refunded, and the merchandise is gone. Card goes bad, no one to complain to, and merchants usually have no recourse with the issuer or banks. You're just out the money AND the merchandise. We didn't happen to lose a dollar, but they probably managed to nick someone.
Nice work though, AT&T being the disinterested third party for profit.
Now can we start looking into how the Universal Service Find is being hijacked to try and build the rural Internet where no provider seems willing to do so as in some cases legally required? Noooo... but crony capitalism is flourishing, thanks to the few remaining taxpayers.
Feh.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
AT&T must have people dedicated to finding new ways to rip off customers. Just this month they retroactively increased my rates for the previous billing period. That period was consumed, billed and paid for. This month my bill goes up (an across the board $5/month increase for DSL), I look it over and see they credited part of the previous billing cycle at the old rate then charged it again at the new rate. I see no way it's legal to go into the past and charge more for services already rendered, billed and paid for.
Probably most people did not pay enough attention to even realize what they did, and for the extra $3 it's not worth going to court. It's just another example of AT&T ripping off customers in a precise way to minimize the chances of getting called on their thievery.
As a huckster, I don't appreciate you slandering my name like that.
than the crooks that abused the system to run their scams.
at&t fixed the problem with postcard-based registration verification but when revenues when down (due to only legitimate users, which accounted for only 20% of them, getting access to the service) they went back to a free-for-all internet-based registration and then the problem with overseas abuse returned.
of course they should pay.. and pay a hell of a lot more than 3 x 16 million for fraud...
what i would have a problem with though is if the government expects (or requires) relay operators to monitor or log conversation content and act on that content.
It's the euphemism treadmill. People come up with a euphemism to describe a negative condition without the negative connotations associated with the original word. Unfortunately, the reason why the word had negative connotations in the first place is because the condition it described was undesirable. So the euphemism picks up the negative connotations that it was specifically created to avoid, and a new euphemism is necessary. The process then repeats. You can see this in a number of places. My favorite is how "idiot" turned to "imbecile" which turned to "slow" which turned to "retarded" which turned to "learning impaired" or "minimally exceptional" or whatever it is now.
The great 20th century philosopher and orator George Carlin had a pretty good routine about this; I'm sure you can find it on YouTube or something.
and i'm "hearing impaired" i hate it when people do stupid shit like this to be more "politically correct"
I dated a girl once that was deaf in one ear. She preferred to call it "deaf in one ear".
$16 million from the U.S. government to run Telecommunications Relay Services, intended to help the hearing- and speech-impaired
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$16 million from the U.S. government to offer a calling service for the deaf that the company knew was being used by Nigerian fraudsters
There's a huge difference between these two statements. The first makes it sound like AT&T thought it was doing something good, but just so happened to be not so good.
The second makes it sound like AT&T knew what it was doing, but did it anyway.
Anyway, I'm usually not one to side with the DOJ, but I hope they kick AT&T's ass to the curb for this.
What do I know, I'm just an idiot, right?
Make CEOs responsible for the actions of their companies. After all, if I defauded the government of 16million dollars you bet your ass I'd be in prison, but somehow AT&T gets only a fine?
A fine that they will not even pay, since the money will actually come from their customers?
The solution is to Jail the CEO.Just ask Mitt Romney, after all, he claims the corporations are people too.
The CEOs should take responsibility, since it's the only way they can justify their outrageous salaries. It sure isn't because they've added value to the company. The S&P500 has been flat for a decade, but CEO compensation has gone up 400%.
Disclaimer: I am the 99%
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
"Hearing impaired" is not the preferred phrase
Yeah, it should be HEARING IMPAIRED!!!!!
:wq
We get a ton of these calls at our restaurant. It costs us time taken away from actual customers on the fear that we might actually get a real relay call someday. However, I can pretty much guarantee that it will never happen. The caller always asks for 50+ of the exact same item (never on our menu but generic enough to be on most restaurants menu). I wish we could class action sue AT&T for our business costs dealing with these fraudulent calls. FYI, we have found that the best way to shorten up the call is to ask how the weather is in Nigeria. Pretty much guarantees a disconnect.
"Some voices got treble, some voices got bass
We've got the kind of voices that are in your face!"
-- Beastie Boys
See? Not out of use at all... Oh, wait, we're talking about treble/triple though aren't we?
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WHAT???
By now I don't remember what year it happened, but 2002 seems about right. I got a call from the internet deaf relay on a Sunday night on my work cellphone, with somebody who had a business proposition for me. I was in a noisy restaurant so I couldn't really hear the operator, and asked them to call back in the daytime; he called again the next evening. I don't think the guy really understood the concept of time zones, and he certainly didn't know that Memorial Day was a holiday and therefore a really unlikely time to sell my company whatever scam he was pushing.
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I agree, plus the mixed case is a dead giveaway.
It isn't. What is their fault is choosing to deliberately sabotage their identity validation procedures with the express purpose of keeping call volume (and hence government reimbursement) high, while knowing that the increased traffic would be largely overseas scammers, which they represented themselves as properly blocking according the deal they made with the government that allows them to operate the service in the first place.