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MIT Prof Predicts the End of Disabilities In Next 50 Years

judgecorp writes "MIT professor Hugh Herr describes how technology can end disability in 50 years — with a big incentive from the need to support injured war veterans. A champion climber, Herr lost both legs below the knee, returned to climbing and designed improved climbing prostheses. From the article: 'Herr believes the work he is doing won’t just have humanitarian benefits. There’s money to be made too. And if there’s a market here, it means more people will receive help. Despite all the horrors and injustices the Iraq and Afghanistan wars spawned, they have helped make the biomechatronics industry a lot more viable. Back in 2007, Herr gave Garth Stewart, a 24-year-old Army veteran who lost his left leg below the knee during the conflict in Iraq, a bionic ankle. It used tendon-like springs and an electric motor to provide support for Stewart.'"

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  1. And flying cars and moon bases too, yeah, yeah by crazyjj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I predict that 50 years from now, we'll realize that all long-term predictions made in 2012 turned out to be wrong.

    As for the bionic limb prediction specifically, I've been hearing that my whole life. We always seem to be right on the edge of every amputee having bionic limbs. And yet decade after decade passes and, with the exception of a few prototypes here and there along the way, they all still seem to be wearing the same basic hooks and passive limbs that they've had forever (albeit much improved and lighter versions). Steve Austin, with his bionic limbs, is like a mirage that's always just up ahead--but never seems to actually get any closer.

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    1. Re:And flying cars and moon bases too, yeah, yeah by Sir_Sri · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Apparently, despite all of the people who are injured in road accidents, left over land mines, general mishaps that befall the population etc, the key to moving technology forward is to have 30 or 40 000 soldiers injured.

    2. Re:And flying cars and moon bases too, yeah, yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes and Motor Neurones, Spinabifida, MS and a whole load of other conditions aren't disabilities now.

      The MIT guy is talking about one small part of a massive group of conditions.

      Heres a cheaper and easier way to end disabilities from wars... Stop sending soldiers into war over other people's greed.

    3. Re:And flying cars and moon bases too, yeah, yeah by Qzukk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      they all still seem to be wearing the same basic hooks and passive limbs that they've had forever

      That's what their insurance covers.

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    4. Re:And flying cars and moon bases too, yeah, yeah by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There is too many ways of getting disabled. Amputated limbs okay, but how much leg is left? If it is past the knee you might be okay but what if it is mid femur? What if it is neurological? Again how far up is the neurological problem? Are you a quadropeligic or is it just a local nerve in the leg? Do you have a degenerative neural disease so even your currently working nerves are weird? Too many variables I think an expanding portion of people will be candidates but I don't think we'll ever get everyone. I'm sorry sometimes the most reasonable thing to tell little Timmy is that he'll never walk again, and no really he'll never walk again. There isn't some miracle just around the corner etc. medicine tries too much to give hope to the hopeless it is becoming more of a religion every day. Same thing happens in cancer were I work.

      Oh cancer will be cured in 20 years, yeah we've been hearing that since cancer was discovered. There is too many ways that your cells can go bad. Too many regions of the body, too many where cancers are really close to the normal tissues etc. We'll cure some, we'll prevent some, but there will always be cancer of one form or another and we need it: mutations are necessary for evolution.

    5. Re:And flying cars and moon bases too, yeah, yeah by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Perhaps the key is to have 30 or 40 000 amputees with a health-care plan that isn't dedicated to maximizing profits.

      /ducks and runs

    6. Re:And flying cars and moon bases too, yeah, yeah by jamstar7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      they all still seem to be wearing the same basic hooks and passive limbs that they've had forever

      That's what their insurance covers.

      And therein lies the problem. Anything more expensive than the basics, and the insurance companies weasel about paying for it. Medical insurance companies are still for-profit companies, and any payments come off the bottom line. Even with the unnecessary 'bailout' that the so-called 'Obamacare' legislation jammed down our throats, healthcare in the US hasn't been determined by qualified medical professionals (i.e., 'doctors') in decades, it's been determined by beancounters. For some serious giggles, google up the profits of the health care insurance companies and see for yourself.

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    7. Re:And flying cars and moon bases too, yeah, yeah by Sir_Sri · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, that wouldn't do it, because the civilized world have health plans not dedicated to maximizing profits and we don't have some magical solutions either.

      It's all politics, the US especially but others generally are willing to invest a huge amount into R&D for soldiers who get injured, but many thousands more people who suffer similar problems every year seem to not get the same priorities.

    8. Re:And flying cars and moon bases too, yeah, yeah by ace37 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Apparently, despite all of the people who are injured in road accidents, left over land mines, general mishaps that befall the population etc, the key to moving technology forward is to have 30 or 40 000 soldiers injured.

      Compare that to workers comp and lawsuits from 30k-40k injuries at work in US private industry.

      This has a much lower cost to the military and has a great external benefit to society. I don't think these soldiers are making out like bandits here, and I'm glad we'll have the technology for those few injured in road accidents and general mishaps.

      Land mines aren't common on US soil, and it will take decades of improvement before these types of technologies can be extended to the many countries with those problems. And perhaps they need it the most; I don't know. But it must happen first somewhere, and this type of technology won't be developed by an impoverished nation that lacks advanced engineering skills.

    9. Re:And flying cars and moon bases too, yeah, yeah by girlintraining · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For some serious giggles, google up the profits of the health care insurance companies and see for yourself.

      I work for a health care insurance company. There is no incentive to improve business process here; Millions are wasted due to systemic inefficiency. Medicare is an example of administration done right: They take something like $0.05 of every dollar to administer the program -- that is, all the approvals, rejections, communications, support infrastructure, and personnel to move the money from point A to point B and provide full auditing of it as well. There is no private-sector company that can begin to approach that level of efficiency. But insurance companies' overhead costs are being spread across their entire subscriber base, an every solution is about as inefficient as any other in the private sector. This doesn't become apparent until you try to buy medical goods and services at "retail" prices. That's the price of systemic inefficiency, and since insurance companies have no incentive to improve business process, billions are lost every year due to it.

      Before you complain about how they're profit-maximizing, consider that the reason you're paying so much isn't just to pad profit margins: It's also because there's no reason to be efficient. Most people can't afford not to have health insurance. Even a perfectly healthy person doing routine preventative care would see the equivalent of a decent used car rolling out of their pocket and into the gaping maw of "Medical expenses". Yes, the companies are to blame, but make sure you're pinning it on the right behavior!

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  2. The end of disability? by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't see any indication that spinal cord or brain injuries or birth defects will be gone in fifty years.

    1. Re:The end of disability? by vlm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't see any indication that spinal cord or brain injuries or birth defects will be gone in fifty years.

      Lack of medical care for all but the 1% means they'll be dead, not disabled.

      There was a day when middle class people had houseservants, maids, etc. That sounds kinda laughable today. In the future thats how they'll look back on pensions, social security, medical care for all but the 1%...

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    2. Re:The end of disability? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      birth defects

      The category known as "birth defects" will expand greatly over the next fifty years. The technology (and societal willingness) to enable the survival of previously-unviable fetuses and sustain life will continue to outpace the technology to solve the much more difficult issue of curing/correcting the issue.

      If you think you've seen some weird allergies lately, you have no idea what's coming in fifty years. Get ready for headlines like: "Doctors miraculously save baby that couldn't breathe"...and ten years later: "Schools unable to cope with kids that are allergic to oxygen"

  3. Not all disabilities are created equal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... and to say that all disabilities will be solved by tech in the next 50 years seems to be an overly broad statement. We may be able to eliminate physical disability due to lost or missing limbs within 50 years, and possibly even many spinal core injuries, but there are many other forms of disability, especially traumatic brain injury and disabilities due to genetic anomalies that are still not well understood, and likely will never have a "cure". In many of the genetic cases, even if diagnosed in utero, there really isn't anything that can be done.
       

  4. Send drones by captainpanic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you can make robotic legs, arms, eyes, hands, etc., why not put all that together and send the drones to do the fighting? Then you have no more veterans to fix up when they come back missing a limb.

  5. Re:Hmm... by MozeeToby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm inclined to wonder what people will do given the choice between a truly advanced robotic prosthesis and regrowing a limb.

    "Well Mr Johnson, we can fit you with a robotic hand with full tactile feedback via a 2 way neural link, wireless charging (though a mat that we put under your mattress), and have you back to 90% functional with a couple weeks training and therapy and greater than before your accident long term. Of course, as technology improves we can upgrade your arm accordingly. We even offer a "utility" mode with greater than human strength, durability, and dexterity, though for safety reasons this is disabled through limiters during normal use.

    Or, we can give you a series of treatments to regrow you arm. It'll be a long, and probably painful process as the bones and muscles regrow. You'll need months, if not years of physical therapy to tone the muscles and strengthen the joints. But in the end, you'll have an arm that is actually "you" in every way, right down to the genetic level (minus a few tweaks we made to make the arm grow in faster).

    The choice is yours."