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Annual Airline Achievement Report Released

According to an annual report by Dean Headley, a business professor at Wichita State University, flying is getting slowly better. Lost bag reports, delayed flights, service complaints and cases of getting bumped from your flight were all slightly down in 2011. From the article: "Hawaiian Airlines did the best job of arriving on time with an average of 92.8 percent, while JetBlue Airways had the worst on-time performance, 73.3 percent. A flight is considered on time if it arrives within 15 minutes of when it was originally due. Nearly half the 15 airlines improved their on-time arrival performance in 2011, and seven had an on-time arrival percentage over 80 percent — Hawaiian, Southwest Airlines, AirTran Airways, Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, and Mesa Airlines. The average on-time performance for the industry was 80 percent last year, just a tad better than 2010's average of 79.8 percent."

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  1. Games airlines play by Enuratique · · Score: 5, Informative

    The flight time listed for ATL-> RIC when purchasing tickets is about 90 minutes, but the time from takeoff to touchdown is only 63 minutes. They've padded the flight time to account for issues at the airport so that they can more often meet this punctuality window. For example, my flight yesterday took off 11 minutes late, and still arrived 10 minutes early.

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    1. Re:Games airlines play by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How's that a "game"? Sounds like good planning.

      Don't you ever leave 10 minutes early to ensure you make an appointment on time? Is that also considered a "game"?

    2. Re:Games airlines play by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The flight time listed for ATL-> RIC when purchasing tickets is about 90 minutes, but the time from takeoff to touchdown is only 63 minutes.

      Do they list 'flight time' or 'travel time?' Usually it's the latter - Travel time. In this scenario, time spent on the tarmac taxiing should be factored into the equation.

    3. Re:Games airlines play by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Of course not. I'm married. We always leave for an appointment precisely when the appointment actually occurs. No matter how far away.

    4. Re:Games airlines play by xaxa · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How's that a "game"? Sounds like good planning.

      Don't you ever leave 10 minutes early to ensure you make an appointment on time? Is that also considered a "game"?

      Hmm... I think I'd rather that was my responsibility or risk.

      The first train I catch to visit my parents used to have a scheduled time of 72 minutes. There is only one intermediate stop. It used to arrive about a minute or two early, and very occasionally five minutes late -- generally if there was a big football match at the intermediate stop's town. Now, the time is supposedly 77 minutes. However, the train still arrives at the same time -- so it's normally 6-7 minutes early.

      Many people change trains at this station, and the journey planning software allows some time (5 minutes?) to do that. Previously, with a scheduled arrival of 18:00 it would recommend taking the 18:06 train to somewhere else. But, even though the first train still arrives at 17:59, the journey planner now recommends waiting for the next half-hourly train at 18:36. That makes the journey seem half an hour longer, which makes people less likely to use the train in the first place. If you actually do the journey, you get a pleasant surprise if you get there, realise there's another train leaving in a couple of minutes, and arrive 30 minutes earlier than you expected to.

      I wouldn't rely on making that close connection for a job interview, a wedding, or an unflexible flight. But I could easily rely on it for work, and I'd certainly take the risk for leisure trip.

    5. Re:Games airlines play by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Funny

      So, wait, when do the trains pass each other?

      Is this one extra credit?

    6. Re:Games airlines play by realsilly · · Score: 2

      This is not a bad thing. It allows for people to schedule their own time more appropriately. I actually agree with this bit of logic for a few reasons. Airline passengers are forced to schedule their flights to get to their destinations, and for some that requires multiple flights or resources, so if the flight is a layover, an airlines has some wiggle room. As a passenger having some wiggle room is good too. Depending on the airport, you may miss a layover flight due to the congestion at that airport. Rides from the airport can be scheduled more safely, where passengers aren't as rushed. This doesn't mean that flights still won't be late, crap happens, but it allows for confidence to return in the airlines, which I think that they sorely need these days.

      For those who are particular about every wasted moment, well you'll never be happy with this situation.

      But this is just my 2 cents worth.

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  2. Criminals all. by Tommy+Bologna · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is all very nice, but when will the public stop being treated like criminals during air travel?

  3. Short Flights by timmans · · Score: 2

    Airlines that predominately do short flights (like Hawaiian does) would find it much easier to be on time than an airline that runs longer duration filghts.

  4. Bag Fees = Fewer Lost Bag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Lost bags are down, not because the airlines are getting better (or the panty sniffers in TSA aren't stealing your junk) but because fewer people are checking bags because of stupidly high bag check fees.

  5. Re:Hey by ericloewe · · Score: 2

    Considering you're paying quite a bit on Airport fees, the least you can expect is for all compulsory invasive searches to be free.

  6. On Time by characterZer0 · · Score: 2

    considered on time if it arrives within 15 minutes of when it was originally due.

    I tried to explain this to my boss when he complained that I show up 14 minutes late every day.

    Seriously though, why do they not simply report X percent arrived within 15 minutes of due time?

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  7. Bah! All lies... by doston · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Flown lately? It sucks. It sucks so much that if you manage to get from one place to another without a *major* fiasco, you keep your mouth shut. Just because expectations have been lowered to the basement, doesn't mean things are getting better. More like passengers are just feeling more powerless and complaining less. As for on-time arrivals and all that...wow nice. Probably not as difficult, since they've gutted most routes to bare minimum and use sophisticated software to keep planes packed like sardines. Sorry, but air travel sucks and no report of marginal statistical improvement will change anybody's view on that.

  8. Analyzing the wrong statistics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This report looks at almost none of the statistics that I care about when flying. IDBs are rare enough that doubling or halving the rate doesn't matter to me, I've never been IDB'd. I rarely care if my flight is 15-20 minutes late getting to my final destination. The time to wait for checked bags, get a taxi, get through customs/immigration usually vary more than that anyways. I do get royally pissed off, though, if I have to make a connecting flight, and the later flight leaves on time when the earlier flight is late, stranding me for hours. How about some statistics on that? When a airline runs a route, say, back and forth between Chicago and Newark several times a day, if the route falls behind early in the day, instead of progressively letting the later flights run late, they'll just cancel a flight in the middle, and voila, the later flight is "on time", potentially stranding hundreds of fliers. I wonder how this situation plays out in these statistics?

  9. Are the stats improving or the metric getting wors by Arabian+Nights · · Score: 2

    I've noticed a lot of my recent flights arrive earlier than the airline predicts, even when we depart right on time. I've even had pilots tell me we are going to be early before we take off when we're slightly behind schedule. I guess I would like to see a graph of estimated flight times vs. time, and how often they are 'late' side by side, to see if the airlines are just erroneously padding predicted flight durations to get more people to their destinations 'on time.' These numbers just might mean JetBlue is the most honest airline.

  10. I'm confused by mmmmbeer · · Score: 2

    What achievement did they unlock?

  11. Jet Blue == JFK, not on time... by neurocutie · · Score: 5, Informative

    Its obvious that JetBlue's poor on-time performance can be tied directly to its hub being JFK, in the busiest, most congestion airspace in the country. Comparing it to Hawaiian Air for on-time performance is kinda silly. Even airlines with Chicago as a major hub (e.g. American, United), can dilute those bad performances with flights from other of their hubs, but not JetBlue whose only hub is JFK.

  12. Re:Bah! All lies... by doston · · Score: 2

    Flown lately?

    Yep, lots. I feel pretty confident in stating I likely fly far more frequently than you.

    And I don't experience a "major fiasco" on any kind of a regular basis. Maybe I'm lucky, but I should be having a lot of problems to justify your comments. For reference, I'm flying out of PHL, one of the busiest airports in the U.S.

    Glad you enjoy it. Most people think it sucks and has gotten worse over the years, not better. The fact that you fly more and don't hate it says more about the human ability to adapt to unpleasant situations than that flying doesn't blow. it blows, it blows more and more every year and you're nearly the only person I've ever heard, outside airline executives that doesn't agree. And if you want stats, here's a nice link http://articles.cnn.com/2011-06-21/travel/customer.satisfaction.airlines.hotels_1_passenger-satisfaction-claes-fornell-american-customer-satisfaction-index?_s=PM:TRAVEL Airlines score lowest in customer satisfaction. duh.