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Confidentiality Expires For 1940 Census Records

Hugh Pickens writes writes "In spring of 1940, the Census Bureau sent out more than 120,000 fact-gatherers, known as 'enumerators,' to survey the nation's 33 million homes and 7 million farms. Now as the 72 years of confidentiality expires, the National Archives website buckled under the load as the 1940 census records were released and 1.9 million users hit the archives servers in the first four hours the data went public and at one point, the Archives said, its computers were receiving 100,000 requests per second. Data miners will have the opportunity to pick and chip through more than 3.8 million digital images of census schedules, maps and other sociological minutiae. What will we learn from this mother lode? The pivotal year 1940 'marked the beginnings of a shift from a depressed peacetime to a prosperous wartime,' says David E. Kyvig, author of Daily Life in the United States, 1920-1939. The vast data dump, Kyvig says, will allow historians 'to look closely at particular communities and how people within them were doing in terms of employment, income and material comforts.' The 1940 census was the first Census that looked deeper into the details of much of American life. 'As we see how the country evolved over the subsequent 20 years, where we have aggregate census data ... we ought to be able to see more clearly how government spending bettered everyday life, confirmed Keynesian economic theory and revealed that, before the war, the New Deal did too little, rather than too much, to stimulate the U.S. economy."" Get all 18TB of it while it's hot.

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  1. correlation != causation by starworks5 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just because the government was able to implement a Keynesian solution to that economic problem, does not mean that it holds the solution to every economic problem, for instance one that involves post - peak natural resource production.

    1. Re:correlation != causation by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      /.is really trolling today. I've seen multiple stories on the 1940 census records release, and zero mentioned this discredited economic theory.

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    2. Re:correlation != causation by supadjg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's from Darren Aronofsky film "Pi", which has some great lines:

      "Hold on. You have to slow down. You're losing it. You have to take a breath. Listen to yourself. You're connecting a computer bug I had with a computer bug you might have had and some religious hogwash. You want to find the number 216 in the world, you will be able to find it everywhere. 216 steps from a mere street corner to your front door. 216 seconds you spend riding on the elevator. When your mind becomes obsessed with anything, you will filter everything else out and find that thing everywhere."

      "As soon as you discard scientific rigor, you're no longer a mathematician, you're a numerologist."

    3. Re:correlation != causation by repapetilto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's impossible to say what would have happened without the war.

    4. Re:correlation != causation by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      . Someone looking for an excuse to promote huge government stimulus and spending. The difference here is WWII.

      WWII was the hugest government stimulus and spending. It was government spending without limits, which at some point is what it took to get out of the first Great Depression. It helped that our competitors were all turned to rubble, but the Keynes effect was so great that we ended up with a recovery strong enough to allow us to help those competitors rebuild.

      Keynes is not only good for the economy, it's good for the soul.

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    5. Re:correlation != causation by repapetilto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Keynes is not only good for the economy, it's good for the soul.

      Really?? Before Keynes no country ever survived a depression?

    6. Re:correlation != causation by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to mention after the war. The United States was the largest nation that had the least collateral damage. So the decades to follow while Europe and Japan was rebuilding the United States had a near monopoly on trade. The USSR was a threat however the way they implemented communism it created a situation where people didn't have that much motivation to build very competitive products, with a few exceptions mostly in weapons.
      Combined with people living on rations for years, a government forced saving program. When the war was over, people had money, they wanted to spend it and with the GI Bill a lot of these people went to college and got better educated. As well as their time in the war gave a lot of these people discipline that they wouldn't have gotten else ware. While some of the Stimulus spending helped, but not so much in terms of spending but in the fact that it rebuild and improved key areas of the infrastructure.

      Monopoly + (Disciplined + Educated) Work Force + With a lot of money saved up + Improved Infrastructure = Dominate Economy.

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    7. Re:correlation != causation by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If I didn't fear China's economic power yet, I would start right now.

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    8. Re:correlation != causation by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Really?? Before Keynes no country ever survived a depression?

      Pretty much, yeah.

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    9. Re:correlation != causation by starworks5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The autocracy was a result of constant existential threats, much like what occurred in the USA.

      I have a saying "terrorists need tyrants, like tyrants need terrorists", but it generally applies to the relationship fear and control.

      His centralized planning also led to the industrialization of the country, but there was a chicken and the egg problem where you have to move people from farming, and you dont have anything to sell but agriculture to build factories. Many non communist countries have had this same exact problem, even countries that recieve IMF development (often capitalist dictators), but we like to use it as fodder against the communists.

      its not as if our dictators are less dispicable than theirs (chile and iran come to mind), or that our development from agriculture to industry was less worse (irish famine) ( US slavery) (germ warfare).

  2. Why was it confidential? by Henriok · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OK it's somewhat sensitive information, but why was it confidential for so long?

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  3. Re:Keynsian Theories by repapetilto · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have gathered that point, however there is more than one way to get rid of debt.

    I think that is kind of tangential to what I was asking though. Keynes advocated "counter-cyclical" spending, correct? Inflate during recession and deflate during boom times (yes, people and businesses will default because of this policy). What we have instead is constant inflation.

  4. Re:1940 regulation? by SirGarlon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not claiming that all regulation is good. The examples you cite (regulating price of electricity, the TSA) are clear examples of stupid, counterproductive regulation.

    My position is that without Federal law to suppress a host of discriminatory practices, the bigots would still be in charge. Without Federal law to prevent dioxin in the ground water, companies would still be dumping toxic waste. The quality of life we take for granted did not magically emerge as we all became enlightened. It required the big stick of government regulation to stop the elite from abusing the rest of the public.

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  5. Re:18 Terabytes?! by arth1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, the reason for the 100,000 requests per second is largely - drumroll - mormons.
    No, I'm not kidding. Honestly.

    Part of their religion is that they hold baptisms for dead people, so they allegedly get a chance to become mormons after their death, and thus gain greater rewards[*]. In order to do that, they engage extensively in genealogy. Really extensively.

    Their accuracy isn't much to brag about, though. I discovered through a search engine that someone in the LDS church had done a baptism "for" my departed father. And got most of his details wrong, including his birth year and family relations. But now it's "official" as far as they're concerned.
    They refuse to strike this from their records - I am "welcome to" submit correct information, but I don't want them to have that either. How about they stick to their own, and leave the rest of us alone?

    But yeah, mormons cause a huge part of the traffic.

    [*]: Like being reunited with one's loved ones, or becoming a Mr. and Mrs. God of a new planet. No, I'm not making this up. Religion is stranger than fiction.

  6. Re:As Krugman says by repapetilto · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The main claim is that government often creates more problems than it solves, then gets stuck in a loop of never ending quick fixes each generating more unintended consequences.

  7. Re:As Krugman says by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The main claim is that government often creates more problems than it solves, then gets stuck in a loop of never ending quick fixes each generating more unintended consequences.

    Yes, that's the main claim by right-wing fools.

    My wife can't make decent cacciatore, but that's no reason to never eat cacciatore.

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  8. Re:As Krugman says by Gilmoure · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the central bank prints up 20 trillion dollars and it doesn't help anything, Krugman and his ilk simply shrug and says "Eh, must not have been enough."

    No, Krugman says it wasn't spent correctly and yes, the $700B of the stimulus was half what he prescribed. Instead of being injected at the bottom of the economy (working folk and main street businesses), it was piled on to the top, where it was used to keep paying out bonuses to the very people that caused this mess in the first place.

    When the financial industry makes up 40% of the economy, purely by shuffling paper and gambling, that's actually acting as a drag on the economy and not helping things. The TBTF banks should have been broken up *and* liquidity should have been aimed at jobs creation. Instead, you have a gov't that's heavily influenced (run?) by bankers and financiers who can't see any further than the edges of Manhattan. No idea how we're going to get out of this one, unless they go and dig a moat around New Yawk and stop listening to all the yammerheads over there.

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  9. Re:As Krugman says by lacaprup · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But you can sit their in your smug, self-righteous libertarianism and keep pretending Krugman is a hack who hasn't consistently made very accurate predictions and the Nobel prize in economics is a fraud

    Krugman has consitently failed to predict anything since he helped lead Enron into an abyss about 14 years ago. Almost eveything he espouses has been proven to be bunk in the wake of Greece, Spain and Portugal in Europe, and his claims of "not enough spending" on the failed Obama stimulus plans is the type of overly general crap that mean nothing. Typical Keynesian... "no matter how much we spend, it's never enough." Further, he has more than once taken obvious disengenuous positions about a true Nobel laureate, Milton Friedman. Seeing as how his sheep-like readership has never actually read Freidman, they'll never know.