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Polish Government To Deliver Free Textbooks For All Kids Grades 4-6

rekrutacja writes "Today the Polish government started a Digital School pilot program, which includes distributing e-textbooks. This came after a years-long effort by the Open Education Coalition and its members to persuade policy makers, that Open Educational Resources are the future of education. The last few months have been especially eventful, as the free textbooks part of the program was dropped by the Ministry of Education and reinstated again by the Prime Minister Office."

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  1. That's advanced by symbolset · · Score: 4, Informative

    The India government is looking to deliver K-12 education to a half billion kids in the next decade, if they can get Android tablets at $40 each. I wish them luck. Right now the price point is $128 for a 7" tablet. The education is, of course, free - thanks to the diligent work of Michael Hart (may he rest in peace!)

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    1. Re:That's advanced by horza · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Android tablets are going for under $90 new on ebay (average price for 7" tablet appears to be £55). However combine something like the Raspberry Pi with the plastic eink display by LG that Slashdot was covering a couple of days ago and I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to halve that. Forward-wind into the future where those printable solar cells could be put on the back of the eReader to make them totally self-powered and we have the perfect educational delivery device for developing countries. It takes time to build up a library of good quality content so it makes sense to start now. In a few years when the library catalogue has filled out then technology might have caught up at the same time.

      Phillip.

  2. Good for them! by excelsior_gr · · Score: 2

    The article doesn't mention for which e-book reader the textbooks will be available. I hope this is not part of someone's marketing strategy...

    Free textbooks in Europe is not new, however. E.g. the Greek state has been giving away dead-tree textbooks for all classes for free since decades now.

    1. Re:Good for them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      yeah since they are available as CC-BY with sources that means any reader
      from the site with the books http://wolnelektury.pl/
      PDF to print
      EPUB for an e-book reader
      MOBI for Kindle
      TXT for advanced usage
      and
      Source of the book
      Source XML file
      Book on Editor's Platform
      Mix this book

    2. Re:Good for them! by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 2

      Free textbooks are the norm in Europe, we have a strange system where textbooks that are mass printed for education are cheaper than regular textbooks, and educational systems negotiate a discount and get it ...

      Unlike the Free Market system in the USA where the manufacturers make specific books for Education, unsuited to the requirements of the curriculum, massively overcharge for them, and make sure they change from year to year so new ones have to be purchased ...

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  3. CC BY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    from the article (in Polish):

    all these resources will be available under CC BY, which is compliant with the Definition of Free Cultural Works.

  4. Re:Lulz at Slashdot by symbolset · · Score: 4, Funny

    These kids are going to be totally left behind by the daily innovations in basic math and Algebra with their static etexts. Why, quite often Algebra Science is stood on its ear by decisions of the courts. Just a few years ago Alabama sought to upset Euclid and legislate that Pi was exactly equal to three. There's no way these tablets can be kept current with modern jurisprudence.

    And then there's the Hubble constant, which we all know gets edited every year to re-explain the observations.

    Or maybe you could just not be such a freaking retard. The above text (in case you didn't know) is sarcasm. That I have to call that out makes me want to (not talk to) you all. You may insert into (not talk to) whatever remediation technologies you prefer, as long as they involve acid, ballistic weapons, or a freaking flamethrower.

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  5. Re:Yeah by excelsior_gr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you think that free textbooks for kids is what bankrupted Greece then you are being naive. This has been standard practice even before Greece joined the EU and is a direct follow-up of the Greek constitution. Oh, and you might want to look up on how this systems works in Greece before posting further comments.

    For the record, I agree with you on taxes and spending. You just have to apply this concept to sections of the budget like "military spending" and "Olympics 2004". And don't get me started on corruption, bad management and the like...

  6. Re:Yeah by gl4ss · · Score: 2

    free textbooks are the norm around europe. there was a recession when I was a kid and we had to use books that were used already, but still, before the highschool equivalent stage the state pays the books, which makes sense since you're required to get schooled anyhow.

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  7. Re:Do their math textbooks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Use Polish notation?
    Then they can program with a Lisp.

    Wouldn 't that be Polith nothathion?

  8. Re:Yeah by PCM2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I went to school in the United States and I don't remember ever having to pay for textbooks for grades K-12, either. You gave them back at the end of the term, so most classes handed out used books.

    When I first saw this story, my initial reaction was, "Oh no, are they making elementary school kids pay for books somewhere?" I can just imagine what it would be like to teach a class in American schools where half the kids don't even have a copy of the book.

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  9. Re:Advertisement by rekrutacja · · Score: 5, Funny

    That is so true! I feel really bad because now you exposed all my dirty secrets. I lobbied governement all those years to accept this program exactly yesterday, because i want to advertise on Slashdot, and win all those 1% donations. I will use this money for champagne, caviar and orbital trips. I'm also a member of Majestic 12, and work for New World Order, for full disclosure :-)

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  10. Re:Lulz at Slashdot by Ihmhi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Agreed... I think very few things actually change in the specific fields represented in the K-12 curriculum. As far as I can see, the only potential changes are (some) of the following:

    • * A new, easier-to-learn methodology to run through a particular type of mathematics.
    • * A significant, confirmed change in history, or perhaps removal of the bias already existing in history texts (such as the fact that Paul Revere was one of three riders and actually quite lazy - history class should teach history, not legends).
    • * Changes to grammatical rules (the whole "Lists and a comma before 'and' thing" - for example: it used to be "Jim, John, and Lisa" but apparently it is now supposed to be "Jim, John and Lisa" for... some reason. I think it's idiotic as the first one better represents how one would actually say the sentence, though.)
    • * Changes to specific tools in the curriculum. For instance, drafting isn't taught much in high school anymore, but AutoCAD is. Cursive is often being dropped in favor of typing. You rarely will see a shop class using a hand drill over a power drill. etc.
    • * New requirements for education that add new subjects to the curriculum, although what currently exists is pretty well-rounded.

    I think you could take a full set of school books from 20 years ago and they'd be almost identical to the ones used today.

  11. Re:Lulz at Slashdot by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Indiana Pi Bill was not fictional.

    The Indiana Pi Bill is the popular name for bill #246 of the 1897 sitting of the Indiana General Assembly, one of the most famous attempts to establish scientific truth by legislative fiat. Despite that name, the main result claimed by the bill is a method to square the circle, rather than to establish a certain value for the mathematical constant (pi), the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. However, the bill does contain text that appears to dictate various incorrect values of , such as 3.2 (when 3.1 is closer, with = 3.14159265...).

    The bill never became law, due to the intervention of a mathematics professor who happened to be present in the legislature

  12. Re:Yeah by Tsingi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of course someone had to pay for them.

    You think that providing an education for your citizenry is a burden on society?

    Do you think it would it be more efficient to spend the money on prisons and welfare?

  13. Re:Yeah by mrzaph0d · · Score: 2

    I can just imagine what it would be like to teach a class in American schools where half the kids don't even have a copy of the book.

    no imagination necessary, just go to any inner city school. but that's not too bad, the teacher just ends up giving the textbooks to the half that can actually read.

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  14. Re:Lulz at Slashdot by digitig · · Score: 2

    Changes to grammatical rules (the whole "Lists and a comma before 'and' thing" - for example: it used to be "Jim, John, and Lisa" but apparently it is now supposed to be "Jim, John and Lisa" for... some reason. I think it's idiotic as the first one better represents how one would actually say the sentence, though.)

    Any such rule would be the style of a particular institution. There is no such rule of English grammar. Partly because ( as K. S. Kyosuke points out) because there's no legislative body for English, but that wouldn't be enough; it would still be considered wrong to, use' arbitrary~ punctuation! all` over [{] the place or fail to put a major stop at the end of a sentence

    More significant is that there is absolutely no consensus over the Oxford comma. Some current style guides mandate it, some forbid it, and all of the respectable style guides add the qualification that you can break the "rule" to avoid ambiguity.

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  15. Re:Lulz at Slashdot by pluther · · Score: 2

    * Changes to grammatical rules (the whole "Lists and a comma before 'and' thing" - for example: it used to be "Jim, John, and Lisa" but apparently it is now supposed to be "Jim, John and Lisa" for... some reason. I think it's idiotic as the first one better represents how one would actually say the sentence, though.)

    It depends who you ask.

    The second comma in your example is called the Oxford Comma, and made big news a while ago as Oxford was considering dropping it from their recommendations of style.

    In the US, different standard manuals of style have different recommendations. The Chicago Manual, for instance, recommends using the Oxford comma, whereas the AP Manual does not. (Or maybe it's the other way around. It's been a while since I edited professionally.) I've always preferred it, though had been taught over 25 years ago that it's optional, as long as use (or non-use) is consistent throughout any particular document

    Worry not, though, for the Oxford comma is still safe (at Oxford anyway). They decided to keep it.

    My favorite comment defending it in the recent brouhaha was somebody's much-repeated post: "For teaching me that the Oxford comma resolves ambiguity, I'd like to thank my parents, Sinead O'Connor and the Pope.”

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