NBC Apologizes For Editing Zimmerman 911 Call
Hugh Pickens writes "The Washington Post reports that NBC has completed its investigation into the Today show's mishandling of the police dispatcher's conversation with George Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case with a finding of error, plus an apology. The apology addresses the show's failure to accurately abridge the conversation between Zimmerman and the dispatcher in this high-profile case. This is how the program portrayed a segment of that conversation: Zimmerman: 'This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black' Here what was actually said: Zimmerman: 'This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.' Dispatcher: 'OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?' Zimmerman: 'He looks black.' In an appearance on Fox News's Hannity, Brent Bozell, president of the conservative Media Research Center, called this omission on the part of Today an 'all-out falsehood' — not just a distortion or misrepresentation. 'On the good front, [NBC] acknowledges the mistake and apologizes to viewers for the bad editing. It's a forthright correction and spares us any excuses about the faulty portrayal. On the bad front, the statement is skimpy on the details on just how the mistake unfolded,' writes Erik Wemple. 'In light of all that's happened, Zimmerman may be a tough person for a news network to apologize to, but that's just the point: Apologies are hard.'"
The ethnicity is absolutely relevant. As has been pointed out here - find a case of a black man doing this to a white kid *under equal circumstances*, where the black man was not arrested. I live in the county that had the lowest murder rate in the country in 2004, Fairfax County. I know a guy (not by choice) who did a similar thing - he was drunk, heard a ruckus outside, brought out a gun, shot a hispanic kid, left the scene, did not call 911, flushed his evidence down the toilet. He was white. The kid he shot was brown. The shooter claimed self defense was not charged. He sat with cops and joked during the wrongful death lawsuit (that he lost). He was never charged. His name was never released to the family, who had to sue in court for over a year just to find his name. His name is Brandon Gotwalt. Hopefully I'm retelling the story right, but there's plenty to google on this. Show me where this happens with races reversed. Race absolutely changes how the law is applied. This has been statistically proven over and over and over and over.
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You don't know Zimmerman started the fight. From what I've seen reported, Zimmerman asked Martin a question, and Martin punched him, then jumped on Zimmerman and started to beat him.
Keep in mind this "child" was 6'3" and 17 years old. Not the 12 year old boy the media is showing (Hmmm portray Martin as a young boy and Zimmerman as a racist (via doctored 911 call audio), and tried REALLY hard to portray Zimmerman as white, when he is Hispanic... Why would they do that?)
Keep in mind, two days ago the police report was released on this. There are six adult witnesses on it. The cops did take Zimmerman's weapon as evidence and took 3 statements and a video statement.
This is the Duke Lacrosse case all over again. The media tries to spin racial injustice (that's great for ratings!!!) but the facts (and DNA) say the accused is innocent.
if (it != oneThing) it = another;
What people constantly fail to point out is that in the past year, Zimmerman's neighborhood had been robbed 8 times by somone described as a "young black male." I would have called the cops to.
And 160 lbs at 6'3 is so skinny as to be a total non-threat. I know, because I've been there. Furthermore, there was no smashing the head into the pavement. Otherwise, he would have gotten a ride to the ER and a catscan to check for bleeding in the brain.
Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue.
You realize that murder has a legal meaning right?... and if he 'gets off' on a technicality... then he's not legally murderer... and actually leaves you actionable for libel.
More so... murder tends to require a specific intent, so unless you care to demonstrate that he got out of his car thinking/saying "I'm going to go shoot this guy"... the best you could hope for would be manslaughter... and even then the evidence of the assault on Mr. Zimmerman makes it an even tougher case.
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The photo of Mr. Martin in the red shirt is not from age 17, or even 16... but ~ age 12... as are the majority of the photos shown in the MSM... now his twitter accounts had more telling photos.... just as the mug shot looking photo of Mr. Zimmerman which has been splashed most places is similarly old and helping to lead to incorrect conclusions about both me.
Correct... but not to the media who labeled him as a white man from day one because it played into a narrative of "gun weilding white man gun downs young and unarmed black boy"... and only later backed away slightly as they realized their mistake.
Care to support that argument? All credible information I've seen says just the opposite that people of all races in the community knew that he was someone who could be counted on.
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Reports from Martins girlfriend on the phone have the conversation down to martin asking why he was being followed, followed by Zimmerman asking "what are you doing here"
2.) no witnesses as to what happened
Actually, there were five contemporaneous witnesses, not counting Martin and Zimmerman.
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Not that it matters, but just to corret you: Hispanic is not a race. You can have black hispanics, white hispanics and every other colour hispanics.
What does matter is your lie about Obama: Obama was asked a direct question about the case in a press conference, following is a complete video of the answer. And at no time does he refer to Zimmerman as a white man.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/2012-election/video-pres-obama-if-i-had-son-heâ(TM)d-look-trayvon
I won't bother looking up the other accusations you made. The may be similarly full of shit or they may be true. It doesn't matter to the case. As I said Zimmerman's race is irrelevant.
A gated community that had been robbed multiple times.
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
Sorry but 911 operators have exactly zero authority to tell or order anyone to do anything.
Also, stand your ground laws have nothing to do with this. The only reason they are mentioned is because some people vehemently oppose them and this seems like the perfect opportunity for them to complain about them. If someone hits you, knocking you down, jumps on you, and starts bashing your head into the pavement then standing your ground isn't even an issue. Self defense laws cover that situation already.
You might want to rethink your opposition to stand your ground laws while you're at it. If you're legally obligated to run away instead of defending yourself then you can be herded like a lamb to the slaughter.
Hey turns out that video was edited too. The unedited video shows blood on the back of his head.
Plus an EMT treated him at the scene. And a witness saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman. But hey I guess they could all be lying.
Or, you know, maybe the the wannabe banger actually attacked him like he said.
Most states DO have this. It's called "brandishing." Exposing the firearm for the purpose of intimidation not related to a defensive reason.
The thing is, if you get punished for pulling it w/o using it, you'll end up with a lot more people shot in the back. Why? Many times simply pulling a concealed gun ends the threat: the idiot threatening you has a sudden stroke of intelligence and bolts or submits. Thankfully, a lot of things can and do change in the half second between breaking leather and presentation on target. That saves many idiots' lives.
That link has no eye witness account. The only thing in it is that Zimmerman stated that he had been yelling for help. The only thing in it related to witnesses is the list of witnesses, and the fact that statements had been taken. Nothing about what those statements actually were.
So if that's where you got your information from: you're just making shit up. Which is just one step away from lying about it.
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*cough*bullshit*cough* What the police have is a dead body, no witnesses to the start of the altercation(You cannot be penalized for a self defense claim when doing something legal), the only witness to see part of the altercation itself agrees completely with Zimmerman's story, wounds entirely consistent with his story unless you assume the arresting officers, paramedics, and lead investigator are all lying, and a self defense claim. Given that evidence, no prosecutor in their right mind is going to arrest because they don't have a snowflakes chance in hell of conviction.
Hell, even the girlfriend's story has Martin confronting Zimmerman.
3 years ago. You demonstrate my point. Rare vs the constant stream of distortions and lies from Fox News.
http://foxnewslies.net/
href="http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf">police report that states he was injured and treated at the scene:
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"This particular teenager" was caught by police with burglary tools and 12 women's rings, after getting caught on video vandalizing school property. When pressed, "a friend gave them to him".
His presence in the neighborhood could very well coincide with some of the burglaries.
The community is not "gated" as in "prison yard", it's "gated" as in you can't drive a car in without driving over grass if you can't open the gate. There are not walls around all of it. A person can easily walk in, and the walls there are, are four feet tall.
This is information is available on Google Maps.
There's a PDF of his school disciplinary record floating around that has the details of the burglary bust in it.