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Majority of Landmark Cancer Studies Cannot Be Replicated

New submitter Beeftopia writes with perhaps distressing news about cancer research. From the article: "During a decade as head of global cancer research at Amgen, C. Glenn Begley identified 53 'landmark' publications — papers in top journals, from reputable labs — for his team to reproduce. Begley sought to double-check the findings before trying to build on them for drug development. Result: 47 of the 53 could not be replicated. He described his findings in a commentary piece published on Wednesday in the journal Nature (paywalled) . ... But they and others fear the phenomenon is the product of a skewed system of incentives that has academics cutting corners to further their careers." As is the fashion at Nature, you can only read the actual article if you are a subscriber or want to fork over $32. Anyone with access care to provide more insight? Update: 04/06 14:00 GMT by U L : Naffer pointed us toward informative commentary in Pipeline. Thanks!

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  1. Grants-whores and publicists in academia?!?!? by crazyjj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But they and others fear the phenomenon is the product of a skewed system of incentives that has academics cutting corners to further their careers.

    As I've said before, back when I was in academia, there were always grant-whores and academics more interested in their own interests than science around. Too many people have come to treat science with a reverence more appropriate to a religion than a system of knowledge and discovery, however. And so when I point out that there are scientists out there willing to cook the numbers, exaggerate, play to politics and/or public opinion, etc. I inevitably run into those who say "Science wouldn't allow that" (like my friend who's still in the field). But science is only as good as the people practicing it. And, in any field, there are always those willing to put their own personal interests ahead of the greater good.

    I just hope this doesn't cast a shadow over those out there who *are* doing good work and *are* trying to do honest work. Sadly, some of the best researchers out there are the ones who make the least noise, get the least attention, get the least grants, and are least likely to get tenure.

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    1. Re:Grants-whores and publicists in academia?!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Those of us in other fields of science tend to hold up biomed as an example of how not to run a science. They tend to have a shoddy idea of experiment design and statistics. Same way when I was a student it was always the premeds who did all the cheating.

    2. Re:Grants-whores and publicists in academia?!?!? by hey! · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I inevitably run into those who say "Science wouldn't allow that" (like my friend who's still in the field).

      Well, science is rather like democracy in that regard. It doesn't prevent mistakes, but what makes it better than other things people have tried is that it has a mechanism for correcting them.

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    3. Re:Grants-whores and publicists in academia?!?!? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But they and others fear the phenomenon is the product of a skewed system of incentives that has academics cutting corners to further their careers.

      A few years back one of the USA's leading medical journals changed their rules to allow doctors who are receiving money from pharmaceuticals to publish reviews of the drugs sold by those same pharmaceuticals. We may have a problem that runs deeper than "cutting corners".

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    4. Re:Grants-whores and publicists in academia?!?!? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Same way when I was a student it was always the premeds who did all the cheating.

      During my orientation at a university, the Dean of my college said that's exactly what they found among the people who get busted.

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    5. Re:Grants-whores and publicists in academia?!?!? by Missing.Matter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've actually been on a ranting spree the past couple of days due to terrible journal manuscript submissions I've had to review recently. I can't tell you the number of times I've read a submission that was outright published in another periodical. Many foreign submitters don't understand the concept of plagiarism, let along self plagiarism. These "scientists" are ranked and compensated by the number of publications they produce, so they publish one piece of research and try to pass it off in as many periodicals as possible, essentially representing old research as brand new. This compensation system has obscured the true purpose of publication: what was once a means to disseminate your work to the general population is now a means to get you and your lab more money.

      I take my responsibility as a reviewer very seriously; the job of a scientist is not only to create new research, but to critique and evaluate the research of others. But many academics who have been in the field longer than I approach reviewing as a chore, and only focus on half of the interesting part of their job, the research. I don't know how many of these terrible publications slip through the cracks due to lazy reviewers, but I'm sure it's more than I'm comfortable to admit to myself.

    6. Re:Grants-whores and publicists in academia?!?!? by pepty · · Score: 4, Informative
      Can't blame all of this on grants-whores. There are a lot of reasons for published results to "revert to the mean": honest mistakes like cell lines that drift from their normal phenotype, lack of budget necessary to run additional or larger experiments, and publication bias at the journals. One of the biggest problems is brought up in TFA: the observed effect was only seen under extremely specific conditions. Often that means that the company had to adapt the experiment to a model (say a different animal or cell line) that was relevant to their own work, and they couldn't reproduce the result in that model. In which case the result is still true, but much less likely to be useful for identifying a drug target.

      On the other hand, this isn't really news, or limited to oncology. Bayer published a report last year covering its analysis of targets in CV, womens health, and onco and overall could only verify ~25% of targets in house.

    7. Re:Grants-whores and publicists in academia?!?!? by crmarvin42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Your post makes me think of two recent instances in my field (I am a non-ruminant nutritionist).

      1st had to do with a Professor down in Texas who is pushing the feeding of supplemental L-arginine to sows and a "consultant" for an Arginine manufacturer. He's been pushing it based on (frequently) contradictory reports of improved litter sizes and reduced piglet mortalitites. However, he's never had sufficeint statisitcal power. You need at least 100 sows per treatment because of the high standard deviations involved, but he frequently uses less than 10 sows per treatment. At the Midwest American Society of Animal Science meeting in Des Moines, IA this year there were two presentations from industry where they EACH used over 100 sows per treatment and found no positive effects of feeding supplemental L-arginine. They never mentioned the Texas professor directly, but you could tell that both studies were intended to be a rebuttal of what they considered bad, and self-serving science.

      2nd has to do with an article I read critiquing the use of what is called "Nutritional Epidemiology," and can be found here. It is incredibly long, but very insightfule critique of a field that is given far too much credence simply becuase of where the scientists work, and how free they are with chicken-little-esq proclomations about how meat is going to increase your chances of dieing by 30%!! (everyone has an exactly 100% chance of dieing).

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    8. Re:Grants-whores and publicists in academia?!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      These "scientists" are ranked and compensated by the number of publications they produce, so they publish one piece of research and try to pass it off in as many periodicals as possible, essentially representing old research as brand new. This compensation system has obscured the true purpose of publication: what was once a means to disseminate your work to the general population is now a means to get you and your lab more money.

      The incentives do cause number to be more important than quality, but as a grad student who does understand the concept of self-plagiarism, I gotta tell you that every single academic (not other students, actual professors) I've encountered will try to walk that line. It's not that we republish the same paper, it's that when we get results we're encouraged to think, "how many papers can we divide this up in?" So you publish one part in a journal, then an incremental improvement that you already had in a second journal (while citing the paper in the first one, but they are still fairly similar work). Depending on the nature of those incremental improvements, I can see someone trying to publish a paper that crosses the line.

      We need to change the culture to have journals publish papers that are just verification of data from other papers. That's the ideal work for grad students that are just starting to get in the field anyway, and it helps peer review immensely. Once you have a degree and a job doing research, you can start working on publishing new work, but then you'll be more worried about publishing half-baked ideas because you know there's an army of grad students just waiting to see if they can replicate your results.

    9. Re:Grants-whores and publicists in academia?!?!? by pavon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      These "scientists" are ranked and compensated by the number of publications they produce, so they publish one piece of research and try to pass it off in as many periodicals as possible, essentially representing old research as brand new.

      This problem has also created backlash that affects genuine researchers. My adviser had been working on some new research and was invited to present at a conference. So he wrote up his work in-progress (limited to 4-pages), and presented there. When the work was completed he tried to submit it to a journal, and one of the reviewers rejected it because it was "just a copy of this prior work". This is despite the fact that the 12-page journal paper went into far more detail, provided proof for what were conjectures at the time of the conference, and corrected significant errors in that preliminary work. So now the only scientific record of this work is an incomplete incorrect account.

    10. Re:Grants-whores and publicists in academia?!?!? by hey! · · Score: 4, Informative

      Eugenics is junk science for four reasons:

      1) It makes invalid extrapolations from valid science.
      2) There is little empirical evidence for it, and what there is turns out to be tortuously misinterpreted.
      3) The validity or definition of some of its core concepts is questionable, so many of its ideas are untestable.
      4) It is statistically naive, ignoring things like regression to the mean.

      You can't extrapolate between dogs and people; dogs are domestic animals, and people are wild animals. At the risk of making another list, there are two problems with doing that:

      (A) Dogs are domestic animals; people are wild animals with far greater genetic diversity. Sexual reproduction is supposed to increase genetic diversity; only by starting with an artificially uniform genetic population can you breed for specific traits with any reliability. Look at several large human families and while you'll see some resemblance, it's far less than the resemblance of purebred puppies born in the same litter.

      (B) A dog reaches sexual maturity in 6-12 months; humans in 12-14 years. In the course of a 40 career a dog breeder gets to work with 30-50 generations, a human breeder would only get 2-3. Even if you start by inbreeding a single human family, it'll take you centuries to get the kind of results a dog breeder can get in 20 years.

      I'll leave off debunking eugenics here, because I'll have to start using roman numerals.

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  2. For detail and commentary... by Naffer · · Score: 4, Informative

    See this discussion of the same paper on In the Pipeline, a blog devoted to organic chemistry and drug discovery. http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2012/03/29/sloppy_science.php

  3. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. by concealment · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is no greater "absolute power" than knowing that if you say or write something that others will like, they will pay you lots of money and make you famous.

    It's not that money corrupts. Money is not the root of all evil; the full quote is "the love of money is the root of all evil." When our society decided that money was more important than truth, we surrendered truth to the void.

    A research scientist thinks about his day. He can slightly fudge his cancer study, make big headlines, get a ton of grant money and get appointed chair at the university. Or he can go down the long hall to his boss and say, "Nope, this one didn't work either, and while I'd like to start a religion based on false hope, this isn't the false hope you're looking for." If he does that, he can then watch one of his subordinates fudge the cancer study, make big headlines, and be his boss at the same time next year.

    Which choice would you make?

    1. Re:Absolute power corrupts absolutely. by WhiplashII · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, its a little worse than that. The honest guy doesn't get tenure, and is eventually fired. The dishonest guy remains a "scientist" for life. So in the steady state, there will be many, many more dishonest "scientists" than honest ones.

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    2. Re:Absolute power corrupts absolutely. by crazyjj · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or he can go down the long hall to his boss and say, "Nope, this one didn't work either, and while I'd like to start a religion based on false hope, this isn't the false hope you're looking for."

      And that's what *really* pissed me off about academia. Guys like that never get tenure, never get thanked. With so many of the people I worked with, "hypothesis" was synonymous with "foregone conclusion." The standard practice was to come up with your hypothesis, cook up a bunch of data to support it (dismissing any evidence that contradicted it with a little intellectual sleight-of-hand), publish, and then get your promotions and tenure. The guys who treated their hypotheses as ACTUAL hypotheses (that they might actually find to be wrong) were treated like bad researchers, when in fact, they were the *good* researchers. With so many people cooking the numbers, it began to be assumed that if your hypotheses weren't always proven right, it meant you were somehow flawed.

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  4. Re:No Surprise Here by smg5266 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Most people pursue careers in atmospheric science for the dollars

  5. Re:No Surprise Here by next_ghost · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My second thought is "Hmmm, academics/scientists skewing results for the sake of their own careers. Global warming, anyone?"

    Your second thought is completely off because every single time someone actually tried to replicate global warming research, they DID get the same results. Unlike in the case of those medical papers TFA is about.

  6. I call bullshit by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Given the expense, I flat don't believe that a private company just decided to replicate 53 studies.

    And he claims that authors "made" his team sign confidentiality agreements. How do authors force that?

    So, he claims, he can't even tell us which studies failed.

    Now he works at a different cancer research company. Conflict of interests?

    I don't doubt that we've got problems in the "medical industry", but the linked article reeks of bullshit.

    Has anyone looked at Nature?

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    1. Re:I call bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      And look at many of the complaints he has about academic research in this 'paper'.

      "In addition, preclinical testing rarely includes predictive biomarkers that, when advanced to clinical trials, will help to distinguish those patients who are likely to benefit from a drug."

      When I publish a paper, I'm trying to present the the interesting findings in regards to the molecular system I'm studying. Finding a bunch of associated biomarkers is an entirely different study. If you expect me to write multiple studies/papers rolled into one and replicate the experiments over and over in dozens of cell lines and animal models, you better be paying me to do it, because I don't have the funding for that in the small budget I got for the proposed study funded by taxpayers through the NIH. When I wrote the grant to do the study, I didn't even know I would find anything for sure, so I didn't ask for a budget 20x the size so I could replicate it in every model out there to look for biomarkers as well, just in case I found something. Asking for that is a good way to have your grant rejected in the first place. My paper was to find the interesting thing. By publishing it I'm saying, 'we found something interesting, please fund us or other researchers to take the next step and replicate, test in other systems, etc, etc. Publishing my results does not mean 'Big Pharma should go ahead and spend $10 million trying this in humans right now!'

      "Given the inherent difficulties of mimicking the human micro-environment in preclinical research, reviewers and editors should demand greater thoroughness."

      It's tough to do. That's why we typically do small bite-size chunks. That and the size of our grants allow us to do the bite-size chunks. Want greater thouroughness? Increase our funding. Ohh, but that's from taxpayers, and you want them to spend all the money doing research so you don't have to.

      "Studies should not be published using a single cell line or model, but should include a number of well-characterized cancer cell lines that are representative of the intended patient population. Cancer researchers must commit to making the difficult, time-consuming and costly transition towards new research tools, as well as adopting more robust, predictive tumour models and improved validation strategies. "

      Cancer researchers must commit to the costly transition? Yes, yes, research is being held up because all those academics, with all their mega-millions in earnings each year, just aren't willing to pony up the cash to do their experiments right. We live off grants. If there isn't funding to do a huge study, we can't. Simple. No 'not willing to commit' involved.

      "Similarly, efforts to identify patient-selection biomarkers should be mandatory at the outset of drug development."

      Once again, the budget for that wasn't in my grant because I didn't know I would even find anything, let alone need to find every associated biomarker. Want to know the biomarkers? Then pay for it, or wait for me to publish this first paper, then write another grant asking for funding to look for biomarkers now that I've got a very good reason to look for them and spend the money. In a rush? Either pony up the cash or stop whining about taxpayer-funded academics not providing everything to you on a silver platter in record time.

  7. Less evil, more science by AtomicDevice · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While certainly there are those who will publish findings they know to be false, that's not really the big issue I see here. Good science demands that studies be replicated so they can be upheld or refuted. Sure, there's confirmation bias in science all over the place - the bigger problem I see is that there's very little incentive to publish a paper that simply refutes another. Busting existing studies should be a glorious field, but it's not. If big-name scientist A publishes a result in nature, and no-name scientist B publishes a paper in the journal-of-no-one-reads-it, everyone just assumes scientist B is just a bad scientist (assuming he even managed to actually get published at all).

    Another major issue is that the null hypothesis is a very un-enticing story. No one wants to publish the paper: "New Drug does nothing to cure cancer". If you spent a year and a ton of money researching New Drug, you're damn sure going to try and make it work. It's unfortunate, because often the null hypothesis is very informative, but it doesn't get you paid or published. Or how about the psychology paper: "Brain does not respond to stimulus A in any meaningful way", don't remember that paper? That's because it never got published.

    I think this is less about malicious behavior, and more about a lack of interest (which can somewhat be blamed on the way universities/journals/grants handle funding, notoriety, etc) in replicating and refuting studies.

    Do you want to be the guy who cured cancer, or the guy who disproved a bunch of studies?

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  8. Most published research findings are false by kahizonaki · · Score: 4, Informative

    A recent PLOS article (free to view!) analyses modern research, coming to the conclusion that most research findings are false.
    TLDR: Because of the nature of the statistics used and the fact that only positive results are reported.
    http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124

  9. Indeed by Benfea · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Physicists get cranky if you show them research with p values higher than one in ten thousand, but medical research routinely produces p values as high as 0.2. On top of that, you have a large number of wealthy corporations who have powerful financial motivations to influence the results of medical research fraudulently, which probably doesn't come up as often in other fields. There has been a lot of news about problems with medical research lately, mostly because the medical research community itself is discussing these issues, which is a promising sign.