FBI Says American Universities Infiltrated by Spies
An anonymous reader writes, using various bits of the article: "While most international students, researchers and professors come to the U.S. for legitimate reasons, universities are an 'ideal place' for foreign intelligence services 'to find recruits, propose and nurture ideas, learn and even steal research data, or place trainees,' according to a 2011 FBI report. Tretyakov was quoted as saying, 'We often targeted academics because their job was to share knowledge and information by teaching it to others, and this made them less guarded than, say, UN diplomats.' China has 'lots of students who either are forced to or volunteer to collect information,' he said. 'I've heard it said, "If it wanted to steal a beach, Russia would send a forklift. China would send a thousand people who would pick up a grain of sand at a time."' China also has more than 3,000 front companies in the U.S. 'for the sole purpose of acquiring our technology,' said former CIA officer S. Eugene Poteat."
The war on the academic sector. One more nail in our coffin.
Virtually all of us are infested with CIA. What's the problem?
Meanwhile the Japanese would study the beach, then copy it, in miniature.
The Brits would copy it but get all the good bits wrong and make the bad bits worse.
The Australians would make a copy that is just better but they would never stop feeling inferior about it.
The greeks would expect the rest of the world to pay for it.
The saudies would just buy it and see nothing wrong with paying a fortune for sand.
The Germans would dig a hole in it.
The dutch wouldn't feel happy on it until they build a sand castle to protect against the tide.
Apple would put it in a pretty box and sell it for a premium but you could only use it as Jobs intended.
Have I insulted everyone yet? Not on topic? Oh come on, universities have always been a haven for spies and the recruitment of spies. Duh, where else to find information, underpaid people with lots of info and impressionable young minds looking for a cause?
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Foreigners are at an university to "nurture ideas" and to "learn"!! CALL THE FBI!!!
China also has more than 3,000 front companies in the U.S.
See? That's what you call a job creator. Outsourcing works both ways.
I'd note that the 3k companies claim came not from the CIA, but from a guy who's retired from the CIA in the 90s, and was previously involved in - get this - the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
And the simple fact is i'm sure we do the same thing duh! Universities are where one often begins to question the way things are for the first time. You are a young adult, in some ways grown and others not, and many cling to idealism before that lovely jaded cynicism that so many of us have seeps in. Remember its a lot harder to recruit someone who just blindly accepts things at face value, easier when they begin to question why things are the way they are. I do find it ironic that the same things that help someone grow as a person can be labeled as "potentially subversive" depending on which flag you are waving.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
I'm 90% certain this 3000 front companies figure is going to appear in a ton of places now. But where the hell does it come from?
Because S. Eugene Poteat is no longer a CIA agent. He's been out of the CIA for over 10 years. So how does he have access to privileged intel on Chinese intelligence activities? How on earth could he, a man whose intel career ended well before the start of this nonsense, know?
The answer is, by my reckoning, he doesn't. It's just a made up statistic. And there's a pattern behind this guy's statements too: he's long been a proponent of the removal of accountability from the intel services.
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0316-27.htm
There's a certain wing of the US who is pushing the intel agenda. By reproducing the cold war, they get more funding and the unlimited powers they always coveted. S. Eugene Poteat's proper title is 'Intellaine security company employee, and lobbyist for greater surveillance powers without civilian oversight'. Don't buy into their bullshit, unless they show their working.
No, the Romans conquered Greece and stole all their academics wholesale. But Greece had the last laugh because all these academics captured by the Romans became tutors who raised the next generation of Roman elite to in the image of Greece. Roman mythology and culture became Greek in all but name only. History can repeat again. All these Chinese academics coached in USA go back with a lot more culture acclimatization than the stolen grains of sand. In the end China might become America in all but name.
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