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An anonymous reader writes "I finally started looking at my taxes and instead of handing over my personal information and money to TurboTax I was wondering if there were any recommendations for freely available/open source tax software? Ideally, the data would be stored in a portable, open format. I wouldn't really need a GUI, but something that filled out PDF forms would be nice." It's a question that just won't go away. Open source solution or not, if you're a U.S. taxpayer, the deadline for filing is nearly to hand.

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  1. For this you want a professional product by CoderExpert · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, this is the kind of product that is done with help of lawyers and accountants, because it is really complicated. Specialists rarely work for free with open source products. You really don't want some 18 year open source coder's "product" (who just filed his taxes for the first time and quickly coded up something) for this. They just don't understand all the different tax laws and practices, especially in some corner cases. And it is YOU who will be responsible when the program gets it wrong. Using open source instead of a program made by professionals with the help of accountants and tax professionals is incredibly stupid!

    1. Re:For this you want a professional product by alen · · Score: 5, Informative

      no, the reason turbo tax costs money is they have teams of accountants translate new tax laws in every state into easy to fill out forms and the math functions behind them

    2. Re:For this you want a professional product by autocannon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yes, go use some free open source "stuff" to file your taxes. Hope it works, hope it's accurate. Oh, and hope they update it multiple times every god damn year to keep up to date with the ever changing tax code. But hey, it's free right. Why would anyone want to actually support software developers by "paying" for software.

      Seriously, what is the obsession here with people wanting everything for free? You want to do your taxes for free, sit down with the paper form and do them. If Turbotax is too expensive for you, try TaxAct. It was $20 to efile both state and federal this year.

    3. Re:For this you want a professional product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It didn't take long for that 18 year old coder to respond.

    4. Re:For this you want a professional product by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh, and hope they update it multiple times every god damn year to keep up to date with the ever changing tax code.

      I think you've identified the real problem. It's not that there is no open source tax software, it's that your tax system is so complex that it requires software to file the return.

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    5. Re:For this you want a professional product by sribe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Everything you said PLUS tax software must conform to an extremely rigid release schedule, where neither dates nor functionality are negotiable at all, which is not something I've ever seen from open source.

    6. Re:For this you want a professional product by Joiseybill · · Score: 5, Insightful


      BS. I have a 9-to-5, have a mortgage, play in the stock market, do contracting on the side, and do my own taxes. And I'd say I've just described more than what 90% of US taxpayers need to file. And seriously? Mind-numbingly easy. Painfully easy. Embarrassing-that-professionals-do-that-for-a-living easy. ...
      Doing ones own taxes involves nothing harder than "add up all the box 2s on your W2s and box 4s on your 1099s and enter that total on line 62 of your 1040". Totally mechanical crap that doesn't require the least bit of thought or familiarity with tax law. ... ...
      For the rest of us, don't try to make this sound harder than the reality. Plug and frickin' chug, baby!

      @pla: +1 because you are a 1%-er. ( intended as a wake up; I can't afford the 1% moniker, maybe I'm in the top 10)
          Sure, for the /. audience, the "algorithm" of following the instructions, including branches.. plugging & chugging when we fill in variables, and making an informed decision on deductibles - is all likely within our grasp.

      However, look around at the rest of the country.
      Most Americans cannot balance a checkbook [1], [2].

      The basic tax guide "Publication 17" is over 300 pages long. [3]
      The instructions for the basic 1040 form is at 100 pages [4].

      Just answering the questions "What's New?", "Do I have to file", and "Where do I file" ( [4] pages 6-7) incorporate 4 more pages of tables and worksheets referenced in the text ( pp 8-11), and suggest the taxpayer review 10 separate publications for clarifications, outside the 'core' paperwork of Pub 17 and 1040 instructions.
        point: it is complex, even to "just follow the instructions". Not everyone is the sort who just jumps in, presses ON, and only looks for manuals after it doesn't work. ( I am.. but not everyone is.)

      If you are lucky enough to have a job, and a mortgage, play in the stock market, and do contracting on the side.. you are a pretty smart and fairly motivated person. You can multitask. You can prioritize tasks, and see projects through to the finish.
      Only 58% of the US population is employed.. or 42% is not. [5] - BLS report " population/employment ratio" .. when it comes to the word "unemployed", the US Govt needs to take a lesson from Inigo Montoya, “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means”

      Never mind making educated decisions about deductions like work expenses and medical costs. I don't think the average American could fill out the typical medical insurance claim form, never mind read one and extract information for tax purposes.

      How many Americans - picked "at random" - would you trust to balance your checkbook, or to fill out your tax forms?
      Heck, I don't even trust a "jury of my peers" to render a sensible verdict.
      Most folks I have met can't follow a 2 -page recipe in a cookbook, or remember the plot to a 200-page novel unless the movie and/or starred Heath Ledger or Megan Fox.

      If every citizen was encouraged to do their own taxes, imagine how much WE taxpayers would be paying to clean that mess up?
      Don't give people more credit than they deserve. Look at our last few elections.

  2. Open Tax Solver by rbowen · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's one: https://sourceforge.net/projects/opentaxsolver/

    Having said that, I have found that paying a professional has always been a worthwhile investment. I have a masters degree in mathematics, so it's not a question of the calculations, but my accountant knows things about tax law that I don't, and keeps me from getting audited while getting me the best refunds that the law allows.

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  3. Government should give away such software. by couchslug · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tax compliance is in Federal interest, and with standard Free and Open software everyone could use the same application.

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