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Ask Slashdot: The Very Best Paper Airplane?

An anonymous reader writes "'The Harrier' (or 'Eastern star,' as it is also called), is very well known, and is considered to be one of the best paper airplane designs. After much searching and trying, I have not found a better plane. So, I am asking Slashdot: is there anything that beats 'The Harrier' in a competition (indoors or outdoors)? This would be a really nice geek skill!"

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  1. Outdated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The harrier is 1980s technology. Try a F35-B joint strike fighter STOVL variant. Folding instructions are a bit behind schedule and over budget still.

    1. Re:Outdated by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 4, Funny

      The F35-B only uses one sheet of paper, and we have to have two sheets to fly properly in Canada's arctic weather.

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    2. Re:Outdated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      And I thought our government was three sheets to the wind when they decided to buy the damn things.

  2. Ask the mythbusters by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They can test out ideas in a cool way.

    1. Re:Ask the mythbusters by LordLucless · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes. They will test out which paper plane travels the furthest by considering a number of different launch techniques, one of which will inevitable be being propelled by the force of an explosion.

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    2. Re:Ask the mythbusters by TexVex · · Score: 2

      One of my top three episodes is the one with the water heater rockets. Another is the one where the moribund cement truck gets vaporized.

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    3. Re:Ask the mythbusters by MiG82au · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bullshit. The paper plane throw record is 69 m. Try match that with your paper ball. You can definitely exclude a ball from the definition of "plane". It follows a ballistic trajectory because it doesn't generate lift.

    4. Re:Ask the mythbusters by Joce640k · · Score: 2

      The first episode of Mythbusters was the JATO rocket Chevy so viral videos aren't too far from their roots.

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    5. Re:Ask the mythbusters by JosKarith · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "A great long canon fires a ballistic trajectory, with it's impact speed higher than it's initial muzzle velocity."
      Orly? the only way the cannon shell would gain speed from such a trajectory is if it dropped farther than it rose and I believe that both ships would be sitting on a medium that tends towards a certain amount of flatness. I'm willing to bet that any miniscule gain from this would be greatly outweighed by velocity lost due to air resistance.

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  3. the bat by electrosoccertux · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.instructables.com/id/Awesome-paper-plane!!/

    due to its erratic flight, it let you use the full gymnasium, much more exciting than anything that flew in a straight line....

    1. Re:the bat by Darth_brooks · · Score: 4, Informative

      That is by far my favorite design. Great for letting loose in the office, and it's easily customizable. You can easily add ailerons with just a couple of scissor snips.

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    2. Re:the bat by ChenLiWay · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In my life, I've thrown two of these that I tracked with my eyes for 5+ minutes that never came down.

      First was from ground level but in a downtown area. It caught the currents between the tall buildings and just kept going and I lost it after it crossed a street and I couldn't cross fast enough to follow.

      Second was from a 19th floor balcony. The two other paper plane designs my friends used fell to the ground in less than a minute. Mine reached about the 4th floor, caught an updraft from the hot asphalt streets, and never came down. It flew so high that it became a dot and eventually wasn't visible.

      Cliffs: this design is great for gliding and catching air currents, and will fly forever if it catches the right one. Throw outdoors for great fun.

    3. Re:the bat by sunderland56 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I prefer "The Great International Paper Airplane Book", by Mander/Dippel/Gossage (from 1968!):

      http://www.amazon.com/Great-International-Paper-Airplane-Book/dp/1578660289/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1334112956&sr=1-1

      Probably the first serious book on the subject, and a must-read if you're into paper airplanes.

    4. Re:the bat by gknoy · · Score: 2

      I bet someone has thrown one while skydiving. ;)

    5. Re:the bat by JosKarith · · Score: 2

      When I was a kid we went to the Eiffel Tower. I might have had pockets full of paper planes for the event...

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  4. The Ring by khendron · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Might not win a competition, but I've always liked this design. Looks way cool when flying.

    The Ring.

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  5. What are you aiming for? by Hentes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Speed? Distance? Height? The optimal design depends on what you want to achieve.

  6. Barnaby by pcjunky · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I remember this from an old over 30 years ago.

    http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-the-Barnaby-Paper-Aeroplane/

  7. flying squarish thing by GonzoPhysicist · · Score: 2

    I've always liked Ken Blackburn's that set the world record, it's easy to make and the wing actually makes a nice airfoil.

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  8. Take environment conditions into account by ninjackn · · Score: 5, Funny

    One time at my university the engineering department had this paper airplane competition, everyone was given a sheet of 8.5x11" paper and a paper clip. It was particularly windy that day and the event had been organized for better weather so we ended up having to throw the planes directly into the wind from ground level. The distance of the various planes people built ranged from -10 feet to 20 feet from launch point. Taking this into account I decided to modify my design at the last second. I stepped up to the launch area with my plane, aimed it at a 45 degree angle, crumbled it up into a ball and threw it as hard as I could. I got something like 40 feet and had the furthest distance. I kept saying that it was designed to minimize air resistance but In the end I was disqualified for being a smart ass.

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    1. Re:Take environment conditions into account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      My school did the same thing at a physics competition. They gave us paperclips duct tape and paper to make a device that would travel the furthest through the air after being launched by hand. They never said "paper airplane" but that's what they had in mind. We put a bunch of paperclips in a paperball and taped it together, and one of the kids on our team was a pitcher for the school's baseball team so he just chucked it down the hallway. It hit the backwall and we won our school an award for it.

    2. Re:Take environment conditions into account by flaming+error · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I would have appealed their decision. If that's the whole story you were smart, not an ass. I've always judged my planes against the baseline of a crumpled paper ball, and when I've run competitions, we always had an event specifically for crumpled balls. If your event organizers didn't want that design, they should have prohibited it before the event. If that design never occurred to them, then you taught them a valuable engineering lesson.

    3. Re:Take environment conditions into account by Yakasha · · Score: 2

      I would have appealed their decision. If that's the whole story you were smart, not an ass. I've always judged my planes against the baseline of a crumpled paper ball, and when I've run competitions, we always had an event specifically for crumpled balls. If your event organizers didn't want that design, they should have prohibited it before the event. If that design never occurred to them, then you taught them a valuable engineering lesson.

      I'm slowly learning that is why us nerds don't get promoted.

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    4. Re:Take environment conditions into account by NotPeteMcCabe · · Score: 2

      I think the most amazing thing about this story is that you were able to throw a crumpled ball of paper 40 feet into a stiff wind. I just went into my front yard with a crumpled ball of paper and could not get more than 33 feet, and that's with no wind at all.

    5. Re:Take environment conditions into account by nameer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The intent of the organizers is to generate designs with "nice" glide ratios. But to encourage that, the right metric is not distance of flight, but time aloft. A paper airplane that slowly covers 15' is a much "nicer" design then a wadded paper ball that covers 40' in two seconds.

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    6. Re:Take environment conditions into account by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Funny

      The simple explanation is that you throw like girl. :-)

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    7. Re:Take environment conditions into account by sjames · · Score: 2

      Then they should have used glide time as the metric.

      That's the danger of any metric, if it doesn't actually measure what you want, you'll get 'odd' results.

  9. Re:I made a Saturn V once by Genda · · Score: 3, Funny

    She initiated deflagration to which he exploded in premature ignition!!!

  10. Hypersonic shaped Paper Airplane by Banichi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The very best distance paper airplane I have ever encountered was shown to me by a fellow church-going Virginian when I was about 5 years old.
    You fold the paper into a very narrow dart looking shape, a wingspan of maybe an inch or so at most, a length of almost the entire sheet. Throwing this paper airplane, you can get incredible distances.
    I've never seen anyone else use that design, not that I've looked especially hard.

  11. Scientific American Published a book on it. by Earl+The+Squirrel · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Great International Paper Airplane Book by Scientific America : http://www.amazon.com/Great-International-Paper-Airplane-Book/dp/0671211293
    had, at least at the time, the "best performing" for time aloft, distance, etc. The designs were very solid.

  12. world record... by mortonda · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:world record... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Video of the John Collins, the inventor/creator of that design folding the plane: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VG-4BSZcwI
      Unlisted video, don't know why.

      I've just tried it, and even without the tape, it flies much better than the Harrier

    2. Re:world record... by curunir · · Score: 2

      This article has a brief discussion of the overall design of the plane. Not really a step-by-step how-to, but there's enough in there for someone with some physics knowledge and Googling skills to create something similar.

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  13. Super-basic square by mcrbids · · Score: 2

    I grew up having to go to church. And every week, I would wait so impatiently for the 20 minutes or so at the end of service when all of us kids would get the run of the main hall and run around in circles and burn off all the energy we'd saved up sitting still!

    We had a perpetual paper airplane contest, because every week there were program sheets passed out that nobody cared about after the service. So I spent years competing for the best flying airplane, at least among other children under 12 or so.

    The very best design I ever concocted was a "square plane" design, something like this one, except that instead of folding it down the middle, I bent it up about 1" along either side, making it into a low, squared off "U" shape when viewed from the front. Experiment with different sizes of roll, different lengths of roll until you get it right. (I didn't get much result making the fins down either side much smaller or bigger, 1" is about perfect) I usually got best results with the plane being 6" wide and 6" long - nearly perfect square, with about 5 inches of paper rolled up at the front.

    Launch by pulling it into the air straight up, over your head, with your fingers under the front rolled-over part, it will gently fly with the fins up ("upside down") and glide a long way, dancing along the edge of stall. If you are looking for excellent hang times (not speed) this is the plane you want. 30 seconds or more of airtime are commonplace.

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  14. Magic trick by eulernet · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just use a sheet, draw a treasure map on it, and let it fly.

    In a lot of movies, a simple sheet of paper is able to fly long distances, even when there is no wind, as long as it contains something important for the hero.

  15. I concur with the article's writer. by mark-t · · Score: 2

    For aiming, it's only slightly worse than the dart style of paper plane, but this one has *WAY* more lift....when made correctly, a gentle toss can send it gliding almost perfectly straight for dozens of yards.

  16. "The Harrier"? by LanceUppercut · · Score: 2

    "The Harrier"? Where did that come from? This plane is known as Nakamura lock, although this design is normally recognized as the "defualt" paper airplane design. It doesn't really need a name. When someone simply says "a paper airplane" without providing any specifics, it is universally assumed that Nakamura lock is implied.

  17. The Box. by Balinares · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Back when I was still at school, one year, my classroom was one overlooking a deep vale. One of our primary pastimes that year was chucking assorted stuff out the window and see how it'd fly. Mostly (but not limited to) paper planes.

    The record winner for that year in terms of distance covered, and by far, was also the simplest model we ever came up with.

    It was much like the Ring mentioned above, except even simpler. Where the Ring's profile makes an O, the Box's makes a square U. So you don't even need tape.

    Just take a rectangular piece of paper, fold the front over several times to make a thicker leading edge, and fold two vertical wings so the thing will look somewhat like an elongated cube with three missing sides. That's it. Not only it flies, but it flies pretty well, so long as you balanced the 'wings' well enough.

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  18. Re:FIRST by GeorgeMonroy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I recommend the learn the grammar.

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  19. Re:Erratic Flight by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 2

    I'll reply to you because you're high up enough to be noticed.

    Absolutely no one in the thread has noted my favorite design. Sorry, no pics. This is a stunt design, not about distance.

    1. Typical 8x11, vertical/portrait
    2. Bottom left corner to 3/4 right side.
    3. Bottom right corner to match = "Inverted house". Crease hard. (I flip 180 degrees here for ease on next step.)
    4. Buckle the two sides in so that you get another "house" but this time with two extra flaps.
            Protip: Slight variations in this step lead to different tricks.
    5. Fold Nose Half to 2/3 of the way to the base of the "triangle". (Created by the cross folds.)
    6. Fold directly in half along the base to connect both wings.
    7. Fold each wing down making a fuselage
    8. Fold wingtips up or down as desired.

    It's a slow heavy design but it can do about 4 tricks depending on mods:
    Yoyo Loops (Right back to your feet), Circle Patrols, Short-Direct flights 15 feet away, or "Ditzy" where it completely loses its balance and goes haywire.

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  20. Nakamura Lock by Lucidus · · Score: 2

    This design appears to be identical to one I learned to make from a Klutz Press book. It is called the Nakamura Lock, after its designer, and it is definitely the best paper airplane I have flown indoors. It seems kind of tacky to rename it - the designer should get some credit for his work.

  21. Longest flying plane by Stargoat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I was a kid, we had a longest flying plane contest. The rules were the plane had to be moving, and out of your hands. I attached a piece of string to it, and whipped it around for four minutes. The buggers DQed me, stating that I should follow the spirit of the rules.

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