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Why the Middle East Is a Good Place For Women Tech Entrepreneurs

pbahra writes "Conferences for start-ups and entrepreneurs often feature 'pitch contests,' slots in which aspiring entrepreneurs take to the stage to sell their ideas to the audience. Last month's ArabNet conference, held in the Lebanese capital, was no different. What was different, however, was the number of pitches from female entrepreneurs. The stereotype has it that women in the Middle East are subjugated, oppressed and barely let out of their houses. But if that is the case, how come 40% of the pitches were from women—a higher percentage than is typical in equivalent conferences held in Europe? Nor was this closer-to-equal representation of women unique to ArabNet--other conferences in the region boast similar ratios."

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  1. so they can pitch just not drive cars... by johnjones · · Score: 5, Informative

    Women driving has been a controversial issue in Saudi Arabia since 1990 when 47 women got into 14 cars and drove on to a main street in Riyadh. They were stopped, suspended from work for two years and condemned for years in religious sermons and social circles....

    honestly

     

  2. As Arab cities go... by HBI · · Score: 4, Informative

    Beirut isn't very Arab. It's close to 40% Christian.

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    1. Re:As Arab cities go... by operagost · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Correct. Islam is the main problem. The Qur'an says that beating women is a step in the process of obtaining obedience, and there are several references in the Hadith of women being inferior.

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    2. Re:As Arab cities go... by operagost · · Score: 5, Informative

      Would the person who modded me "troll" please point out where my information is incorrect? Read the sayings of Mohammed as recorded by Al Bukhari: "A nation headed by a woman shall never succeed"; "If I have commanded kneeling for somebody, I would command a woman to kneel for her husband", "Women lack brain and religion". And the Qur'an, I think it's in Sura 5, "As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them, refuse to share their beds, beat them; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of other punishment)." Don't deny the truth.

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    3. Re:As Arab cities go... by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Arab" is an ethnic group, not a religion. It's more than possible to be an "Arab Christian," (typical Copt), just as it is to be an "Hispanic Jew."

    4. Re:As Arab cities go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you really want to convince us that all moslems take every archaic passage in the Qaran seriously then we must by the same logic also argue that all christians do as well.

      If someone tried to preach murder, violence and the destruction of democratic states in the largest christian church in the capital city of a major western nation, how long would he be allowed to continue? On the other hand Abu Hamza was able to do this for 5 years until stopped by part of the government.

      What Abu Hamza was able to do for so long in the Finsbury mosque shows that the die-hard fundies in Islam are more than just a tiny minority. Maybe they are not the majority, but they are a significant proportion.

  3. Saying it's a sterotype isn't saying it's not true by crazyjj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The stereotype has it that women in the Middle East are subjugated, oppressed and barely let out of their houses.

    In Saudi Arabia, that's *not* just a stereotype. Not to say that Saudi Arabia is representative of the entire region. But let's not pretend that more pitches from women at some conference makes it okay for one of the largest countries of the region to still tell women they can't drive, vote, show their faces in public, or even leave their house without male escort.

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  4. False choice fallacy by sideslash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Both may be true -- that this conference was friendly to women running startups, and also that women in many parts of the Middle East are drastically subjugated versus women in at last European and American countries. Who wrote this summary, anyway, and with what agenda?

  5. TFA answers the summary's question. by Internal+Modem · · Score: 4, Informative

    TFA answers the question: "Home working also allows women to combine their traditional roles of homemaker and mother, with being an entrepreneur. " So they are able to fulfill their expected roles. Also, "...most of the female entrepreneurs at the conference were young and had spent time in Europe, the U.S. or Australia." Many of them have more permissive families.

    1. Re:TFA answers the summary's question. by crazyjj · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, kidding. It looks like it was written by some Saudi prince who thinks that imprisoning his wife in his house is liberating, as long as he lets her run a mail order business and only beats her once a month instead of once a week.

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  6. Re:Saying it's a sterotype isn't saying it's not t by sycodon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't forget get being beating, raped and even murdered with the tacit approval of the society and the law.

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  7. Re:Saying it's a sterotype isn't saying it's not t by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A female VP from a major defense contractor was made to wait outside a contract signing not too long ago. A male subordinate sat at the event in her stead.

    And that's supposedly the way women can be treated by the business classes. I certainly would think twice before I subjected myself to such a culture. If you can be a successful entrepreneur, you would provably also succeed in a much more favorable culture.

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  8. Re:Soooo.... by Jawnn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Troll? Seriously? Because the Middle East is such a hotbed of advances in the area of women's rights, I suppose.
    Yes, yes. It's not fair to paint the entire region with one brush, but to even remotely suggest that the region, in general, isn't still influenced heavily by ass-backwards, women hating, religious fucktards is to miss a stupendously obvious reality. I'd say the same about Tennessee, but I think women get a moderately better shake there.

  9. Percentages and enforcement by Quila · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thankfully most moslems and christians (apart from some die-hard fundies) do not take everything written in the Quaran literally and implement every crazy thing that is written in scripture.

    First, we need to separate personal choice from law or enforced custom.

    A tiny percentage of Christians still practice strict biblical Christianity (believe gays should be put to death, women wear head covering in church, etc.), and NONE of them are able to put that into law to force others to obey their interpretation. In fact, they're generally laughed at or condemned by the society at large -- see the Westboro Baptists.

    A large percentage of Muslims still practice strict Quranic Islam, and many of them have it in law and enforced custom to force others to obey their interpretation. People are constantly jailed, beaten and even executed for violating these religious laws.

    There is a BIG difference in practice between Christianity and Islam.

    Both the Quaran and the Bible were written in very different times long ago and that fact should kept in mind when reading either text.

    People have been studying the Bible with this view for quite a long time. However, this has only recently started to happen with the Quran and Hadith, and such a thing should not be done in a Muslim country if you value your life. The Quran is still considered the absolute, unchanging, infallible Word of Allah by most adherents. That and Hadith form their law. If gays were to be put to death then, they are to be put to death now. Allah's law does not change.

  10. Re:Soooo.... by Jessified · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I concur. The whole article seems to be trying to say that the Middle East isn't a sexist place.

    That's like saying saying racism didn't exist in the 50s because some subset of black men were allowed to become a doctors.

    "You see? X-bias doesn't exist because some token example contradicts the mountains of examples where the bias does apply."

    Honestly. Does anyone here watch Star Trek? (Of course you do.) Does this not remind you of the Ferengi, as mainly depicted in DS9? The only difference I can see is that the Ferengi prefer their women unclothed rather than fully covered.

    How about some examples from this article:
    Lets start with the picture of the business women covered up from head to toe. For every one woman that truthfully and freely prefers to be dressed like that, how many are coerced by a sexist society?

    More flexible work options, freelance, home-based work, low capital requirements; you can see why starting a company on a small scale is a much more viable thing for women to do than get a corporate job.

    Why is that?

    In Jordan, specifically, the main reason for women not entering the work force is the lack of a proper transit system. We don't have an affordable transit system that can take women from remote areas to the city.

    Is the lack of public transportation not an issue for men, too? Why do women suffer from a lack of public transportation but men do not?

    Home working also allows women to combine their traditional roles of homemaker and mother, with being an entrepreneur.

    There it is. Women belong in the kitchen. Also, I imagine it's less embarassing to have women doing business anonymously over the internet, because no one needs to know she's a woman.

    He said that some private-sector companies would consider employing women, but were put off by the cost and the lack of knowledge of how to hire them. "One of the problems is that they don't know where to go to find the right kind of talents."

    Apparently, hiring women costs more than hiring men, and it's apparently much harder to assess the abilities of women than it is for men. Did not know that.

    If you were to look at the law, even in a country that claims to be as liberal as Lebanon, technically if your husband wanted to prevent you from traveling, he can. Technically you cannot open a bank account as a married woman, your husband has to do it. However, in practice these laws are not enforced."

    Well, it's not a repressive country if they simply don't enforce oppressive laws...for now. And that's an example of the most liberal middle eastern countries!

    It would be ironic if a region that is castigated for its attitudes toward women actually turned out to be more welcoming of female entrepreneurs than those doing the castigating.

    Right. The entire article depicted a more welcoming environment than the western world.

    The fact that any women are succeeding despite living in repressive regimes speaks to their strength of will, not the supposed "progress" of those countries.