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MacBook Pro Fragrance Created

First time accepted submitter GreenPages writes "There's a new signature scent for Apple fans — 'the scent of an Apple product being opened for the very first time.' Created for an art exhibition, the special fragrance is not for sale. From the article: 'The scent created with Air Aroma for Greatest Hits encompasses the smell of the plastic wrap covering the box, the printed ink on the cardboard, the smell of paper and plastic components within the box and, of course, the aluminum laptop which has come straight from the factory in China.'"

114 comments

  1. Sexy? by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

    Would that turn people on?

    1. Re:Sexy? by PrescriptionWarning · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of course it would, the fresh chinese factory worker smell really does a number on the olfactory!

    2. Re:Sexy? by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 1

      Can we have a slashdot Apple fanboi variant, an iPhone that has been in Woz's sweaty crotch for a few days?

      *sniff*

    3. Re:Sexy? by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      Did Woz ever have the affect that Jobs had on Apple users?

    4. Re: Sexy? by janimal · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My thought on reading the headline was that this was a scent that Apple would drop into their new laptops. Not a bad idea, I thought.
      This reminds me of my first visit to the Abercrombie & Fitch store in London. They spritzed the clothing in there with their perfume. And the hot girls that helped me pick the clothes also had the scent on. The experience ingrained the smell into my brain as the smell of "sexy".
      Smell association is a powerful device. If you got Apple fans to associate Apple gear with a specific scent, they would crave the product if they just smelled the store around the corner.

      But the smell of plastic and aluminum? Boring.

    5. Re: Sexy? by JosKarith · · Score: 1

      I avoid A&F. The perfume in the air is so strong it knocks out my sense of smell for about an hour and the forced "californian surf shack" ambience is so false it makes my teeth hurt. Plus there's nothing in there I'd ever actually wear...

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    6. Re:Sexy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yes. It smells like Steve Jobs' scrotum.

    7. Re: Sexy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This reminds me of my first visit to the Abercrombie & Fitch store in London.

      First visit? As if to imply that not only did you go into an A&F and pick out clothes there... but you actually WENT BACK at least one more time?

      All right, 'fess up. Who'd you scam into typing enough complete sentences to make this post for you? And how much did you pay him? Go on, hire him back so you can reply, he's obviously quite good at making sense of your monosyllabic grunts.

    8. Re:Sexy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's more like the smell of Forever Alone

    9. Re:Sexy? by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Oh yes. It smells like Steve Jobs' scrotum.

      Speaking from experience?

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    10. Re: Sexy? by janimal · · Score: 1

      Heh. :) My wife dresses me. She was there with me the whole time and she really liked the muscular twins that helped her out. And yes, I'll put on a pink shirt if she says I look good in it.
      Actually, the quality of the A&F stuff is very high. 5 years on, and today I'm wearing one of the shirts I bout there for the.. cough... 80 quid. It looks good as new and is probably one of my best made shirts (compared with Tommy Hillfiger, Polo, and some no-names).

  2. Olfactory Distortion Field by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This article is going to spawn about 40 attempts at +1 Funny and another 40 Troll results.

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    1. Re:Olfactory Distortion Field by MadKeithV · · Score: 2

      This article is going to spawn about 40 attempts at +1 Funny and another 40 Troll results.

      Yeah, the article stinks.

    2. Re:Olfactory Distortion Field by radiumsoup · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I got a few...
      "The new fragrance is called 'Smug'"
      "There's a $249 charge for Apple Aroma Care to keep your smell refreshed as new versions come out"
      "The first version of the atomizer will have a lot of features you never knew you needed, but later versions will drop those in favor of still other features you don't actually need at all, but will learn to rely on."
      "The bottle and spritzer are not upgradable, but why would you want to change perfection?"
      "Well, at least now I'll be able to smell a douchebag in advance so I can know when to take the next elevator."

    3. Re:Olfactory Distortion Field by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      Nah, it just smells funny. Where's your sense of humour?

    4. Re:Olfactory Distortion Field by kermidge · · Score: 1

      I saw, I read, I swooned.

    5. Re:Olfactory Distortion Field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My least favorite but most familiar Apple MacBook-Pro scent is the death of the SuperDrive 2 weeks after the warrant expires, as it's laser "re-writes" the Snow Leopard boot disk into a warped mass of plastic. I could have saved the disk, but not the SuperDrive if only the MacBook-Pro still had a removable battery. I could have saved the disk, and the SuperDrive, if Apple actually made a laptop computer with a dedicated reset button that clears physical memory. Apple is more interested in "instant-on" sleep-mode than on limiting the damage done by "reside-in-memory" Java malware.

      My replacement SuperDrive, purchased on-line but not-from-Apple, didn't come with a MacBook-Pro "new equipment" scent.

    6. Re:Olfactory Distortion Field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...if Apple actually made a laptop computer with a dedicated reset button that clears physical memory.

      Hold the power button.

    7. Re:Olfactory Distortion Field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because the geek filth of the world are never EVER smug about anything.

      STFU, loser.

    8. Re:Olfactory Distortion Field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My sense of humo(u)r is definitely not with a delayed-fuse incendiary bomb article :)

    9. Re:Olfactory Distortion Field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't worry, soon we geeks will have OpenSmug, LibreSmug, Gnarcissist, Konceit and, of course, Gnu Scent, which features six modifier squeeze-bulbs and a commented-out toe-lint include (the source comes with it).

    10. Re:Olfactory Distortion Field by Bucky24 · · Score: 1

      I think you mean the "iSmug"

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    11. Re:Olfactory Distortion Field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Que?
      We're self important fanboi!

      Who eould ever think about nvram and pram on a mac? It just works!

    12. Re:Olfactory Distortion Field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are smelling it wrong

  3. It'd sell by loftwyr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, people buy "new car" smell fragrances so I can see people buying this.

    1. Re:It'd sell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It'd sell well at that. I used to work as a computer lab installer for a school and I remember that new Mac smell 15 years later...

    2. Re:It'd sell by Phics · · Score: 1

      Well, since unboxing your Mac is typically the last time most people will ever be that much in lust with the thing, occasionally spritzing the air with that "new Mac" smell might just prolong that loving feeling...

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  4. another idea by Spiked_Three · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sure if there was a way to capture the fragrance of throwing money out of the window, the mac crowd would buy that too.

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    1. Re:another idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's only because the pc crowd showed them how to do it first.

    2. Re:another idea by geekmux · · Score: 1

      I'm sure if there was a way to capture the fragrance of throwing money out of the window, the mac crowd would buy that too.

      Who the hell needs a Mac for that? That smell comes on strong for me every time I visit a gas pump.

      The stench is almost unbearable when paying my taxes...

    3. Re:another idea by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      At least at the gas pump I am exchanging it for something I want. Taxes you're just hoping it's not paying for another thing that harms you.

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    4. Re:another idea by itsdapead · · Score: 2

      I'm sure if there was a way to capture the fragrance of throwing money out of the window

      I think that Chanel, Dior, Boss et. al. nailed that years ago.

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    5. Re:another idea by Isaac+Remuant · · Score: 1

      Errr... PC = Personal Computer. It doesn't need to have Windows installed (in case that's what you were referring to)

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    6. Re:another idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone needs to employ your ass.

  5. Reports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reports say the fragrance smells of Stupidity, BO, and pretentiousness with a subtle hint of desperation.

    1. Re:Reports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And here I thought it might smell of patchouli oil and pot.

    2. Re:Reports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wasn't this atory about Macs not Linux users?

  6. eau de solvent by Joe+U · · Score: 1

    Does someone wake up and say "I was thinking this morning, how could I smell more like a manufacturing center?"

    Seriously, I don't recommend breathing that stuff in.

    1. Re:eau de solvent by Reverand+Dave · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, it smells more like a pretentious hipster douche-bag. Like B.O., a tall half-cap-mocha-chino with fair trade organically grown beans, and Patchouli oil, with a hint of too tight jeans and horn rim glasses.

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    2. Re:eau de solvent by Joe+U · · Score: 1

      I don't recommend breathing that in either.

  7. Lemme Guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It smells like farts that are only pleasant to the perfume-wearer...

  8. Laugh by koan · · Score: 1

    Benzine and flop sweat...

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  9. Microsoft has flavours by OzPeter · · Score: 1

    But Apple has fragrances .. which are so much more alluring than a smile flavour.

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  10. If cancer had a smell by areusche · · Score: 1, Funny

    Then the scent of a freshly opened Macbook Pro would be it. I had to open 40 Macbook Pros once and by the end I had a headache from that scent.

  11. Copyright / Patent Infringement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm serious will Apple shut them down for the name? or Style? or Smell? of the product in question? I didn't seen in the article that this was done in corroperation with Apple. It kind of reminds me of when Harley-Davidson sued Honda over the sound of the engine. http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/law/st_org/iptf/articles/content/1998101101.html

  12. What does arrogance smell like, anyway? by Trip6 · · Score: 2

    Always wondered...

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    1. Re:What does arrogance smell like, anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apples!

    2. Re:What does arrogance smell like, anyway? by geekmux · · Score: 1

      Always wondered...

      It's easy to find out. It's the official smell of the 1%.

      Well, OK, maybe it's not that easy to find out, since the 1% right now are sunning themselves on a beach somewhere spending your money.

  13. I've bough a lot of Macs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And without exception, they all smelled mildly foul out of the box. I'm not the only one who's noticed it.

    Even worse were the old iBooks. They had a glue or sealant that started to smell like human body odor after a while.

  14. ...which has come straight from the factory in Chi by clickety6 · · Score: 1

    So it smells of blood, sweat and tears?

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  15. scent with nervegas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i wonder if they also include this ingredient called n-hexane (nervegas)
    many workers died or got crippeled by cleaning screens of new products

  16. Mmmm by mc1138 · · Score: 1

    I love the smell of underpayment in the morning!

    1. Re:Mmmm by dryriver · · Score: 1

      I read that as "underpants" while I was scrolling... yuck... =)

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  17. Looks at the article below it... by StoneyMahoney · · Score: 1

    So Microsoft have flavours and Apple have fragrances?

  18. Pricing by jones_supa · · Score: 1

    Starting at only $99! Available today in brushed aluminum bottle.

    Full prices:

    • 5 ml for $99
    • 10 ml for $499
    • 20 ml for $999
    • 20 ml with custom engraving $1,999 (incl. shipping)
  19. Re:...which has come straight from the factory in by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

    no; only when someone left the iPhone out in the rain

    (oblig: "...and it took so long to 'break it")

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  20. Hmmmm I can just imagine what it must smell like.. by Phizzle · · Score: 1

    The gentle blend of overheating plastic and burned money :)
    I kid, I kid... I own a few Macs and love my iSlab and iPhone, but thats the first association that came to mind.

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  21. Smells like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SMUG

  22. This is to far! by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

    Wow I know apple fans are literally crazy about apple products but this is going 10 steps past to far.

    1. Re:This is to far! by geekmux · · Score: 1

      Wow I know apple fans are literally crazy about apple products but this is going 10 steps past to far.

      This is hardly viewed as crazy when you consider the amount of people quite addicted to "new car smell" and the products pimping that stench...like this is really any different.

    2. Re:This is to far! by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

      If your that addicted to the new Apple smell I think you need to seek professional help.

    3. Re:This is to far! by geekmux · · Score: 1

      If your that addicted to the new Apple smell I think you need to seek professional help.

      Right now, it's just an art exhibit, but I wouldn't be surprised if this eventually morphs into a product for the fanbois out there. Stupid I know, but so was the pet rock.

  23. The artist was trying to say what with this? by dryriver · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Since this is an art project, the created scent is supposed to evoke something or the other, right? Some kind of intellectual reaction or discussion? It may be a commentary on the ritual of "product unboxing" being taken so far by some people, that they even create "product unboxing videos" on Youtube... It may be a commentary on Apple users being so damn addicted to buying from Apple, that even the "unboxing scent" of the products being opened evokes a sense of "Euphoria" in Apple fans. Since most scents are closely related to fashion (labels), it may be a commentary on Apple's products being so mainstream "fashionable" now, that one might as well create a "fragrance" for Apple, which some people wear like they wear Prada, Hugo Boss or YSL... That last one is probably what they were targeting with this art project. The fact that Apple products have become more "fashion item" than "computer product". And, probably the related fact that many people who buy Apple stuff to be in the "in-crowd", are "fashion-victims" of sorts, who feel compelled to buy that-which-is-fashionable. ---- (Now if only someone made a scent replicating the smell of my latest Samsung laptop being unboxed, then I could become a "fashion-victim" like the Apple geeks, too =)

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    1. Re:The artist was trying to say what with this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sigh... not everyone who buys apple is into fashion, or likes it because others will look on them differently. It's also not cool to say "Apple users" as one whole group... about as effective as saying "PC users" as one whole group.

  24. Yes. by metrometro · · Score: 1

    I've been rubbing my Macbook on my wrists for years trying to get that sweet, warm scent of smug that the ladies love.

  25. Great Smell at only Twice the Cost by Dareth · · Score: 1

    Great Smell at only Twice the Cost of similar fragrance. Captures the smell and the Apple/MAC experience perfectly!

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  26. Ingredient list by WillyWanker · · Score: 1

    Sandalwood, musk, essence of hipster, and oil of douche

  27. perfect by haggus71 · · Score: 1

    Now you, too, can smell like a total douche.

    1. Re:perfect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      smells like a walled garden

  28. Seriously, this story was modded-up that much...!? by mxbradley · · Score: 1

    ...as to make it to the /. main page. Stupid!

  29. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Citation is, of course, needed. Macbooks, being made out of the exact same consumer-grade components that every other laptop is made out of, tend to have an expected lifetime of 3-4 years with daily use, again just like every other laptop. Unless we're talking about the type of user who replaces their laptop every year and sells last year's model, which I am not sure I'd really call "frugal", I highly doubt anybody is getting any reasonable dollar value out of reselling old equipment.

    Maybe I'm wrong and there is a burgeoning market in secondhand post-warranty laptops that could stop working any day now, but I'm doubtful.

  30. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by BronsCon · · Score: 2

    DISCLAIMER: I work in a mixed OSX/Windows/Linux office and run all three operating systems personally.

    Funny, I bought an Acer Aspire One in 2008. I gave it to my sister for christmas last year, still working, still useful, with not a scratch on it. Runs Win7 just fine and handled everything I, as a developer, ever threw at it, including running CentOS and OSX in VMs on a Win7 host (it was a tight squeeze in 2GB of RAM, but it did it).

    For $239.95 plus tax.

    Further, I'm not sure of your definition of "last much longer", but I routinely see PC laptops physically outlast their Mac counterparts. Further to the point, I can go out and get a PC laptop that outspecs the top-end MBP, for less than the top-end MBP, so if you're touting top-end hardware that won't be as obsolete, as fast, I'm sorry, you're wrong there, as well.

    In other words, take your smug elsewhere.

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  31. Too bad it's not for sale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd love to wear some of this into the local starbucks whilst getting fucked up the ass.

  32. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

    Citation is, of course, needed. Macbooks, being made out of the exact same consumer-grade components that every other laptop is made out of, tend to have an expected lifetime of 3-4 years with daily use, again just like every other laptop. Unless we're talking about the type of user who replaces their laptop every year and sells last year's model, which I am not sure I'd really call "frugal", I highly doubt anybody is getting any reasonable dollar value out of reselling old equipment.

    Maybe I'm wrong and there is a burgeoning market in secondhand post-warranty laptops that could stop working any day now, but I'm doubtful.

    Two things - if everything were the same quality, then even the cheapest Acer or Asus laptop would be the top sellers. Or hell, HP computers for that matter - they'd all last forever. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be the case (even though they're all made by the same Foxconn factory in the end). What happens it the manufacturer specifies a quality level - from "just throw the parts in the box and ship it" to "carefully lay out all the cables along the guides in the case so the case can be opened fully with the wires routed to the side pivoting..." sort of quality. (Anyone's who had to deal with OEM machines with too-short cables in the case requiring unplugging every part to replace the RAM can attest).

    Anyhow, it seems Macs have long useful lives - my old Powerbook (!) dates to 2003 and is still in use today - probably a good 10 years of service out of what I paid. And most people find that's the case - machines that are 6+ years old (the early Intel Macs, for example) are still useful. The eBay prices for used Macs tends to attest to that - still considerably higher than a PC of equivalent age. Sure my Mac will probably never fetch more than $200 or so, but a 10 year old PC getting $200 is pretty unheard of unless it's special in some way - and most people would scoff if you tried to get more than $20 for it.

    That's just the Mac market. I guess it also helps that the metal casing generally tends to be of good quality so the worst damage a Mac usually has is missing rubber feet and scratches. PCs having lots of little plastic bits all over the place will have pieces falling off.

    The other thing Apple does is concentrate on experience. Apple packages stuff really well compared to a lot of other manufacturers and it shows. The paper's not some recycled crap that's covering your new device in little bits of paper dust when you open the box, it doesn't look like someone randomly took all the pieces and thrown it in the box and be done with it or have the nasty folded cardboard packaging cut with some strange wavy saw that saws through your hand as you extract it out (it seems the Japanese love it - Sony and Panasonic packaging...).

    Not to say there isn't well-packaged stuff (Nintendo's DSi and later handhelds are pretty good compared to the DS series and prior). My Gnex came in a nice box with well laid out accessories. Then again, there's some Datel stuff I got in a nice box, but held in a nasty cheap cardboard holder that covered my "shiny" new product in a fine brown dust. Bleh.

  33. Crédule pour homme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (C) (R) (patent pending) etc. 2012.

  34. Ah.. by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    So that explains why Samsung put out a job posting for an aroma analyst.

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  35. Woz was a god by number6x · · Score: 2

    Woz never had the reality distortion effect that affected people the way that Jobs did, but he did have a different kind of cult hero effect.

    Back in the late '70s and early '80s, Woz was probably more highly regarded by Apple users than Jobs was. Of course, those were the days of 'hobby' computers and that group made up a large portion of Apple II users.

    Woz created good hardware that simplified and reduced the cost of many components. He was also interested in bringing computing to the masses, but didn't dumb it down. Woz had a lifelong love of education and he really pushed creating an informed and educated user base.

    His attitude was a key part of Apple's early success. They produced documentation that enabled users to learn and enhance their systems and to promote a good level of code quality.

    There were many heros from the home-brew era of computers, and Woz was one of the top heros.

  36. What smell? by pushing-robot · · Score: 1

    The only "scent" I've noticed is paper and a faint bit of what I would assume is adhesive that finished drying during shipment. I assumed Apple tried to keep smells down, since I've inhaled far worse after opening other electronics packages (motherboards come to mind). I've never thought of any sort of characteristic "Mac smell"...though admittedly I don't hold my nose up to the packaging and inhale deeply. This is nothing but a gimmick IMHO.

    Oh, and the obligatory.

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    1. Re:What smell? by Dogtanian · · Score: 2

      Oh, and the obligatory [penny-arcade.com].

      WTF? No, this is the obligatory Penny Arcade cartoon. (Could it be any more appropriate to this story?!)

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  37. Re:Seriously, this story was modded-up that much.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another PC troll who has no idea what the f they are talking about. Your disclaimer is BS!!!

    2GB of RAM to run a VM on top of the OS, Yeah the VM booted, but then nothing else would run. $240 of cheap plastic crap that is using a processor that probably came out 3 years before the laptop.

    I run all three OSes as well, but I still prefer a Mac to any other computer (whether it be the Mac OS, Win7 or Linux). Like anything else in life you get what you pay for. Can I get a cheaper PC and hack it to run OSX? Yes. Would I want to? No. Does the Mac have a premium price over a comparable PC? Yes, absolutely. But not as much as the trolls would have you believe. And while the Apple does outdate its OSes on older machines, this is to move the platform forward so it is not beholden to old hardware. Just ask Microsoft, they are heading in the same direction.

    I don't understand why Apple gets so much crap fro putting a premium on quality. This happens with cars, with watches, with beer and so many other things. Just because YOU don't want to pay for it, doesn't mean it isn't right for the people who appreciate quality. So why don't you take your piece of crap Acer, get in your Yugo (The Acer equivalent to a car) and go troll somewhere else.

  38. Re:Seriously, this story was modded-up that much.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wrong spot, my bad

  39. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two things - if everything were the same quality, then even the cheapest Acer or Asus laptop would be the top sellers. Or hell, HP computers for that matter - they'd all last forever. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be the case (even though they're all made by the same Foxconn factory in the end). What happens it the manufacturer specifies a quality level - from "just throw the parts in the box and ship it" to "carefully lay out all the cables along the guides in the case so the case can be opened fully with the wires routed to the side pivoting..." sort of quality. (Anyone's who had to deal with OEM machines with too-short cables in the case requiring unplugging every part to replace the RAM can attest).

    This begs the obvious question: do Apple products actually "last forever"? Also, are the problems you mention descriptive of every single non-Mac laptop available? The Mac has to be better than all available competitors who sell at much lower price points to truly negate the claim that buying one is equivalent to throwing money out the window. And, most importantly of all, what do the problems you've listed have to do with longevity? Chassis damage aside, the parts that are going to likely break and brick your computer are really not subject to build quality instructions from Apple, Dell, or Asus. Seagate doesn't reserve the "special" hard drives for Apple, nor does Intel provide better processors, etc. The only plausible thing I can think of that would relate would be cooling, and that's not even an area where Apple laptops do well.

    Anyhow, it seems Macs have long useful lives - my old Powerbook (!) dates to 2003 and is still in use today - probably a good 10 years of service out of what I paid. And most people find that's the case - machines that are 6+ years old (the early Intel Macs, for example) are still useful.

    Anecdotal evidence. I've known Macbook Pro users whose machines totaled themselves after 2-3 years. I've seen Dell laptops last a decade, as well. The standard deviation of laptop lifetime is really huge, especially if you can't account for use patterns, so a few data points aren't going to help you figure out much of anything about reliability.

    The eBay prices for used Macs tends to attest to that - still considerably higher than a PC of equivalent age.Sure my Mac will probably never fetch more than $200 or so, but a 10 year old PC getting $200 is pretty unheard of unless it's special in some way - and most people would scoff if you tried to get more than $20 for it.

    I call shenanigans. There are lots of people attempting to sell Macs on Ebay for inflated prices, but if you dig down and find the devices that actually have bids on them, even
    That's just the Mac market. I guess it also helps that the metal casing generally tends to be of good quality so the worst damage a Mac usually has is missing rubber feet and scratches. PCs having lots of little plastic bits all over the place will have pieces falling off.

    Another broad generalization. My non-Apple laptop also has a metal casing. You usually do when you get high build quality on expensive laptops. Comparing $2000+ Apple laptops with bottom end
    The other thing Apple does is concentrate on experience. Apple packages stuff really well compared to a lot of other manufacturers and it shows. The paper's not some recycled crap that's covering your new device in little bits of paper dust when you open the box, it doesn't look like someone randomly took all the pieces and thrown it in the box and be done with it or have the nasty folded cardboard packaging cut with some strange wavy saw that saws through your hand as you extract it out (it seems the Japanese love it - Sony and Panasonic packaging...).

    How exactly does this have anything to do with resale value? You just felt like taking the opportunity to wax poetic over the cardboard box your laptop was shipped in? You know, that thing that matters for all of 10 minutes aft

  40. Feed lots have this too by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    It is called The Smell of Other Peoples' Money.

    1. Re:Feed lots have this too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't the smell of a Windows installation...

  41. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like slashdot nommed part of my reply.

    I call shenanigans. There are lots of people attempting to sell Macs on Ebay for inflated prices, but if you dig down and find the devices that actually have bids on them, even less than 5 years old, drop under $200 unless they have expensive software installed on them like Photoshop. And that's already not nearly enough to cover the Apple premium paid on the original purchase price for the hardware.

    Also...

    Comparing $2000+ Apple laptops with bottom end sub $800 PC laptops isn't reasonable.

  42. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by LDAPMAN · · Score: 1

    I buy a new MacBook about once a year or as often as the updated hardware warrants it. I've done this for a long time and usually get about 50% of the original price when I sell the old one. My old laptop is usually sold within hours. I'm sure I could get more if I wanted to put some effort into it.

  43. The scent of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chinese slave labor sweat and tears in the morning.

  44. Smells of Pretentiousness,Coffee and Soybean Farts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is all...

  45. Do I detect ... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    ... a small hint of semen and faeces?

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  46. iSmell by bennomatic · · Score: 1

    How can I be the first to post that likely name for the scent?

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    1. Re:iSmell by Spiked_Three · · Score: 1

      would it be iSmell or iStink?

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    2. Re:iSmell by FSWKU · · Score: 1

      iSmug from Apple:
      "When a fragrance becomes this good, breathing is more vibrant. Everything is more brilliant. Because when a fragrance becomes this good, it's simply you and the arrogant elitism you care about. The stunning iSmug. An innovative new fragrance. From Apple."

      Let Conan's team get a hold of that ad copy and work their magic on it...

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  47. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't understand why Apple gets so much crap fro putting a premium on quality.

    Again, the big glaring question is whether you are actually getting quality, or if you are just paying a premium. This isn't a discussion of a Lamborghini versus a Kia. We're talking about devices that have the exact same innards made by the same cheap Chinese companies that fill up an equivalent Dell or HP. And frequently, there are issues with the chassis itself, the only piece that Apple does have anything to do with. I haven't met an Apple power cord in the past decade that wasn't a cheap piece of junk, and the Macbook Pro line loves to have heating problems because air ventilation was sacrificed for visual appeal.

  48. Eau de Burnt thighs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eau de Burnt thighs

    Eau de Burnt Lap

    Eau de male infertility

  49. Other Options by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a few "smells" that I could make available at a reasonable price...
    File this story under "WTF"

  50. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by strength_of_10_men · · Score: 1

    Two things - if everything were the same quality, then even the cheapest Acer or Asus laptop would be the top sellers. Or hell, HP computers for that matter - they'd all last forever.

    I guess it depends on your definition of quality. Consumer Reports surveyed their reads about laptop reliability a few issues back and the results surprised me. Macs did fair better in that they had fewer problems. But the gap was 1% point between Macs and almost all other laptop makers. I did some googling but couldn't find this year's results but this article citing CR actually lists Apple as worse than Asus or Toshiba by 2% for 2011.

    Going off the top of my head, I seem to remember the respondents were > 30K in number. And I didn't read more into how they defined "problems" but there you go.

    And to match your anecdote with mine, I handed down my 8 y.o. Compaq laptop to my parents and they're still using it daily to surf the web and do email

  51. As Posted Earlier.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eau du Cancer, for sure.

  52. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have just about reached the 3 year mark on my MacBook Pro, and it continues to perform admirably despite the drops and dings and general abuse it has received. I've had windows and linux laptops get cranky or fail with less abuse. The money I spent was well spent. I have not had to upgrade or replace anything. The processing power continues to be sufficient for my needs, so I would be buying a new one in order to give this one to the kids as their school projects are getting more computer oriented, not because I need a faster laptop.

  53. Comes with free Bird Flu! by ski9826 · · Score: 1

    Details inside!!!

  54. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's hardly the definition of "frugal" I think most of us subscribe to, but okay.

  55. Smells like... by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 1

    Reportedly, the fragrance smells like old burnt coffee. As though it had been fresh once, but neglected by it's barista. Java anyone?

  56. Wish they'd make a PC components version by Vrtigo1 · · Score: 1

    I remember back in the nineties when you'd order PC parts from Computer Shopper or the like to build a new PC and you had a whole room full of PC parts, there was a very distinct smell. You don't get that so much anymore since it seems like only hardcore folks build PCs these days instead of buying them. I wish someone made an air freshener that had that smell so I could hang it in my car.

  57. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple does provide better quality. They don't (any more) make plastic cases. Yes they do have the same processors and chipsets as other PCs, but they are not using the low end crap and the stuff that is years past its prime. You can get a PC with the same hardware inside, but then the price difference is much less once you configure the machines as close as possible. So at that point, the difference comes down to the OS itself. Since I can't (legally) run the Mac OS on a generic PC, this all becomes moot.

    Lamborghini vs Kia is not fair. How about a BMW vs VW (not trying to start a car fight, just trying to use a more apt comparison). Will both get you where you need to go, yes. One just does it in style.

    Not sure where your going with the power cords. They had some issues with fraying with the first gen of magnetic adapters (I've only seen 2 in my entire company have this problem, and these had more to do with abuse). But Apple will replace any of these you bring to the Apple store. The new ones are problem free. And for the record, if you've ever seen a Dell power brick (and I mean brick), then there shouldn't be any comparison. If you have ever tripped over a laptop chord only to see the laptop go flying, you greatly appreciate these chords.

    The MPBs haven't had a heat issue since they were first introduced (I had a first gen, they were hot, but not as bad as everyone made it out to be). This problem had more to do with the materials of choice (aluminum) and the processors of the time.

    So at the end of the day, is it worth it to me to pay a couple hundred dollars more for what I feel a superior machine and OS, yes.

    And for the record, a MBP smells awesome when they are first opened.

  58. Smells Like Cancer! by foxalopex · · Score: 1

    Actually to be honest the "new computer" smell like the new car smell isn't exactly good for your health. It's made up of a lot of toxic chemicals. I'm suprised no one's pointed this out . It's like having a "car exhaust" smell. Not really appealing if you ask me. ;)

  59. Super Nintendo unboxing by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

    We've all smelt that fresh unboxing of a new product now and then. From tennis balls (pass out in a non-stop sniffing stupor on those), shoes, electronics, to stepping into a brand new car. But of all the memories of unboxing, opening up my SNES for the first time was the most impressionable. Nothing, and I mean nothing had the smell of excitement like a brand-freaking-new SNES console with Super Mario included. Ok, so maybe sex tops that.

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  60. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    read this, it is from 07, but it is still applicable.

    http://www.salon.com/2007/11/07/mac_price/singleton/

    Macs have a higher resell value over equal Windows/generic PCs (yes I know "PC" means personal computer, get over it, the world calls windows boxes PCs). It is partly because of the higher starting point, but it is also about demand. Not as many people want used PCs (ok maybe they do, but there are tons more of them).

    People covet Macs. I don't know of many people that feel this for PCs (again I know).

    Yeah I'm a fanboy, but I except it. It is not because I follow Apple blindly. I used PCs (I know) for years (going back to 1990). I switched when OSX can out and I've never looked back. I still use Windows and Linux, but I will always prefer a Mac (It is nice that I can run all 3 OSes on one box to boot).

    What the trolls need to realize is that PCs are commodities and Macs are not.

  61. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by penguinchris · · Score: 1

    I think there may be a difference in the type of problems Mac users typically have vs. what other users have, but that's just speculation.

    What isn't speculation is that if you have a problem with your Mac, you can take it to an Apple store and they will fix it right there while you wait (if they can - obviously not everything can be fixed in-store quickly), for free. I recently took my 3-year-old Macbook Pro in because the touchpad stopped working, and they fixed it for free even though it was two years past the warranty expired (it turns out I could have fixed it myself, but I didn't have the right screwdriver for their security screws... but that's a different discussion, and the point is that I didn't have to do it myself and neither do people who aren't experienced techies).

    What do you do if your Asus or Toshiba has a problem? I honestly don't know, but I guarantee it's not as convenient and is probably quite unpleasant.

    Apple has an obvious advantage because they have retail stores and are able to offer that service, but, there's really nothing stopping the other manufacturers from doing the same thing (except the fact that they care more about profit margins than customer service). I'd think it'd be a huge boon for the other manufacturers if they decided to get together and install non-douchey customer service and repair people at certain retail stores across the country (e.g. they'd take the place of Geek Squad at Best Buy, or at Radio Shack or some other nationwide chain) to provide a similar service. Or maybe an expansion of the Microsoft Store nationwide - I've been in the one at Costa Mesa and it seems like they could provide similar things that the Apple Store does.

  62. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You do realize that the reason your mac can run all 3 and your PC can't is because apple forbids it, don't you?

    what I have found, time after time, is that people who are not technically inclined prefer the Mac. That's fine by me, that is exactly the crowd apple can get more money for the same thing from.

    I will admit, they appear to be higher quality - but as a commodity, it's like buying a titanium shovel, who the fuck cares? Throw any common task at them, photoshop, premeire, blender, and for the same price the PC runs circles around them al biet with a less attractive mouse. who gives a fuck except the self worshipers?

  63. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by BronsCon · · Score: 1

    My disclaimer is, indeed, factual. I run a CentOS 6.2 host with OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.8 in one VM and Windows 7 Ultimate in another.

    I'd be shit for a web developer if I did not test on all three platforms, as well as Android, Blackberry, and iOS, and my employer has standardized on using Coda, an OSX application, for development.

    How often does a troll come back wit ha valid reference for his setup? You'll also note that I talk about this setup in several other posts in several other threads.

    Apple's kit is far from premium quality, 2 of the 3 iMacs in my office go unused and my boss can't keep his MacBook Pro connected to a wireless network for more than a couple hours at a time. It was purchased in mid-2010 and replaced last December with a new machine, both with the same issue across multiple networks in multiple locations. I have never experienced this with a PC, none of our iMacs do this (well, the workong one doesn't, the other two didn't) and my wife's MacBook Pro has no issues staying connected to any network. I'm not saying Apple kit is crap, it's decent stuff, but premium quality it is not; the same person doesn't get two lemons in a row from a manufacturer of premium goods.

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  64. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by BronsCon · · Score: 1

    The MPBs haven't had a heat issue since they were first introduced

    I have a wife and a boss who would both love to hear you say that to their faces.

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  65. Re:Buying product with better resale throwing mone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dell will do NBD on-site computer repairs. I don't know if that's strictly better or worse (you have to wait until tomorrow but they will come to you) but it is at least in the right ballpark. I don't know how other manufacturers stack up in that regard exactly, but Apple doesn't have a monopoly on fast, local service.

  66. will need a warning label by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    caution: may cause boner