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Coursera: Dozens of Free, Massive, and Open Online Courses

Titus Andronicus writes "Professors Daphne Koller and Andrew Ng of Stanford University announced a major expansion in the catalog of free, massive, open online courses being offered by the company they founded, Coursera. The subject areas include computer science, mathematics, and business. The providers include Stanford, Princeton, the University of Michigan, and the University of Pennsylvania. Even more courses are expected to be announced by competitors such as Udacity, MITx, Minerva, and Udemy — perhaps soon. Is this the future of education?"

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  1. Maybe by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It might not be the future of formal education; it lacks the cachet, the QA, the brand recognition.

    For studying for its own sake, perhaps.

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    1. Re:Maybe by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think you are confusing a degree with education. Education can be had for free. A degree is part of a formal program. There is intersection but the two are not mutually inclusive.

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    2. Re:Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What's wrong with riding a recumbent bicycle to work? Really, the only problem I can kind of see is that he could be sweaty when he gets in. Is that the only problem? As someone who plans to start biking to work, I'd like to know.

  2. Part of It by englishknnigits · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think the Khan Academy has a pretty good model. You can learn at your own pace at home and then get person to person (from teacher or fellow students) help the following day. Having the learning and exercises take place online lets teachers easily see how far each student got, how long they spent on each problem, etc. Having a really talented teacher prepare lectures online also helps alleviate the disparagement between education received by people with crappy teachers versus students who are blessed with good teachers.

    1. Re:Part of It by __aaeihw9960 · · Score: 2

      I talk about Khan as if it is a tool to get your feet under you, for this reason. You can take a small bite of a large apple, to see if it's something you want to spend a metric butt-ton of money on in an IRL campus. As far as specialization using Khan (and most other on-line academies), though? Not so much.

    2. Re:Part of It by GLMDesigns · · Score: 2

      The Khan model will only improve with time. It will be better organized; logic trees will direct users on different learning paths and there will be a massive increase in example videos that will help people who are confused by particular points. This is the beginning of the end of factory-inspired, top-down bureaucratic style that has been the paradigm in the K-12 education for the last century. We will see a return of student/tutor learning, the rise of decentralized "home"/group schooling; and variant forms that we don't yet know of.

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    3. Re:Part of It by fwarren · · Score: 2

      Yeah, that is exactly the problem traditional educational institutions will have with it.

      One thing is this stuff does not change, mathematics, chemistry, biology, book keeping, etc really has not changed. A very good book and video lecture should be as good in 20 years as it is now. If they spend time improving and adding material instead of just ditching everything and going with new material every few years like your typical college program does, they will be able to build something incredible.

      It was only a community college that I attended. But it was pretty useless. There was the books, I was expected to read them. I could buy "for dummies" books that would be better to learn from. Then there was the classroom instruction, which was repeating what the book said. If you did not understand something from the book, the instructor might help. If something in the book inspired you to ask a more advanced question. Sorry, they instructor would not answer, it might confuse the slower students. It turns out the books are there for you to read, and to provide tests to prove that you read the book. The instructors are there to proctor the tests and grade the work.

      Khan does not have to do much to do better than the current system at teaching students. Since he does not have to worry about real estate, sports, trustees, textbook publishers, unions and tenure he can focus on really teaching students instead of making money for everyone vested in doing things the way it has always been done.

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  3. Something to listen to at work by cpu6502 · · Score: 3

    Work == boring.
    College lectures == interesting. (Also audiobooks and infowars radio == interesting.)

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  4. Not the entire future by fiziko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've tried to learn online, and I've tried to learn in a classroom. I've also tried to teach both ways. Nothing beats a teacher who can interact with a student in person. Now, this may transform teachers into the people who answer questions students have after watching the videos, and it can certainly expand the reach of quality courses to low income and low population areas, which is a good thing (because reaching more students is always a good thing) but some elements of our education system survive because they work.

    Now, in the long term, coupling this with live teachers and individualized, adaptive education content can really change the world...

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    1. Re:Not the entire future by fiziko · · Score: 2

      The profs that are teaching the same subject to in person are worse than the guys in coursera videos. Sure, if I were at Stanford, I'd prefer them live - but a top professor online is better than a mediocre professor in any way.

      This is also true. However, I can imagine a working model in the future that actually allows for the larger class sizes the taxpayers seem to want to pay for, while mitigating the instructional quality problem by having the region or country's best teachers providing video lectures and then the best of the local teachers supplementing the questions, preferably with a different outlook. The obvious risk is that the local teachers will grow less experienced over the generations, and the interaction between teacher and student will suffer.

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  5. Sweet, Comp Sci courses by hamalnamal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As I am about 50% self taught, very often I will want to learn about say "Probabilistic Graphical Models" but don't really feel like digging through all of the material out there to learn the basics before I can even think about understanding what articles and documents even say. This is one of the first free online courses sites I've seen that goes past "Hurr, Hurr, Learn what a variable is".

  6. New York Times article link + 1st paragraph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Paywalled, but here is the first part of the article. If the URL works for you, great, if not, try searching Google News for a long phrase from this paragraph and hope the click-through works.
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/technology/coursera-plans-to-announce-university-partners-for-online-classes.html

    Online Education Venture Lures Cash Infusion and Deals With 5 Top Universities
    By JOHN MARKOFF
    Published: April 18, 2012

    SAN FRANCISCO - An interactive online learning system created by two Stanford computer scientists plans to announce Wednesday that it has secured $16 million in venture capital and partnerships with five major universities.

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    1. Re:New York Times article link + 1st paragraph by SlashGordon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What have we come to when the educational courses are free and the NY Times article telling you about them is behind a paywall?

    2. Re:New York Times article link + 1st paragraph by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 2

      What have we come to when the educational courses are free and the NY Times article telling you about them is behind a paywall?

      Most employers will care a lot of if you have a nice piece of paper that has "Stanford" and "Bachelor of Science" on it. They won't yet care as much if you took some random free online course. But, of course, to get the Stanford piece of paper, you need to shell out 6 figures.

      The "paywall" is in education too.

  7. its a massive opportunity by babai101 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Peter norvig is teaching us how to design computer programs in the udacity's CS212 course. Its really amazing to watch his simple and elegant codes and if we can take up his coding habits then that will really propel our programming skills. This kind of opportunity is really massive for me considering I'm studying at a university that is not even up to standards in my own country. Never even dreamt of being taught by a genious like peter.

  8. Took Ng's Machine Learning class last year by gazuga · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And I can honestly say it was great. I learned a lot, and it was structured in such a way that I learned much more quickly than had I just gone out and purchased a book and tried to learn it on my own. The homework assignments were great too - more real-world than theoretical. Thinking back to college, I wish my classes then were more like the ML class. Perhaps it was because I was taking it merely for personal enrichment and wasn't at all stressed about homework, exams, grades, etc. but the class was very enjoyable. All of that, and it was free.

    Obviously I can't speak for these new class offerings with Coursera, but what have you got to lose? If nothing else, it's a great way to expand your horizons.

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    1. Re:Took Ng's Machine Learning class last year by rs79 · · Score: 2

      There's a whole bunch of these things out there, here's more: http://rs79.vrx.net/interests/free_online_college_courses/

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  9. Still waiting .... by LMacG · · Score: 2

    I signed up for "Human-Computer Interaction" on 29 December. It's been indefinitely on hold since 6 March.

    Can't say I'm terribly impressed with what they've done so far

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    1. Re:Still waiting .... by atisss · · Score: 2

      Cryptography is in progress, new videos, homeworks, I can't complain

  10. Wow! by MyLongNickName · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I am so lucky to be living in this era. I have so much access to information and knowledge, more than the richest person of a century ago could even imagine. I did the Stanford AI thing, and despite not having time to really devote to it (I was pursuing a Master's at the time), it was a good experience. Now that I am through with the Master's I intend to sample from the buffet.

    We live in a wonderful era, tens of thousands of years of civilization and I think we are less than a century away from becoming a Type I civilization...

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  11. I love this trend. by sixtyeight · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I love this trend. Free online courses make perfect sense with the internet's information distribution model, and if the coursework can be properly accredited there's no reason to have to pay absurd sums to proprietary universities. Plenty of people have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to get an education that was supposed to ensure they'd have a well-paying job, never mind that they'd had to mortgage the rest of their working lives to pay off the student loans. Now, they find they can't get work anyway.

    In addition to online courses, I think gameification would be such a great match with online learning. There are plenty of unemployed game designers and teachers; there's no reason they shouldn't pair up. Learning shouldn't be a chore; if we stop accepting the low standard that it's acceptable for it to be, we'll have a society where learning happens painlessly.

    There's also no reason online learning games couldn't lead directly to great jobs or cash incentives. Remember Rock Band and Guitar Hero? I kept waiting for a version that would gradually teach you to play an actual guitar. Pitch sensors would pick up the notes, and as your skill increased your online ranking would as well. The highest-ranking players could get a recording contract.

    It's not like the world is suffering a shortage of guitar players, but it's good proof-of-concept. There has to be a way to implement the various sciences and technologies into games; I spent hours playing CellCraft without realizing I was picking up basic cellular biology.

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  12. Rough on the Adult by hagrin · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm a 33 year old homeowner with a full-time job and a LLC to do small consulting projects under. I have a fiance, a husky/samoyed/malamute mix and about a half acre of property to maintain now that it's spring time here in New York. I also have two small entrepreneurial ideas I am trying to subcontract out to some friends as a side project. I'm really well scheduled with my time and I decided to try and do 2 courses at once - Algo I and Cryptography.

    I made it two weeks.

    A problem set, a homework and at least 4.5 hours worth of video without even looking at the suggested texts that were outlined in the first set of videos - and that was one course (Algos). With 1 week deadlines, there is a serious time crunch that doesn't allow for much in the way of "unexpected happenstance" like when I needed to do some electrical rewiring in my kitchen or assemble 3 pieces of outdoor furniture. I fully admit that I bit off more than I could chew signing up for two courses. I also fully admit that I probably need to sacrifice something on my list above in order to free up more time, but I'm not sure I can bury the fiance in the backyard legally. However, I fully understand now why people say it's _really_ (read - not impossible) difficult to continue schooling once "real life starts".

    I wish the deadline schedule was a little more lenient although I do understand its purpose and I realize my outside commitments account for a large chunk of my problems. A little more leniency in the schedule would have really helped me "find the time".

    1. Re:Rough on the Adult by virgnarus · · Score: 5, Funny

      I would not have felt compassion for your situation had you not of clearly defined the exact breed of canine you own. My condolences, and I wish the best for you.

    2. Re:Rough on the Adult by citizenr · · Score: 2

      Algo I and Cryptography.
        I made it two weeks.

      A problem set, a homework and at least 4.5 hours worth of video without even looking at the suggested texts that were outlined in the first set of videos - and that was one course (Algos).

      Protip: You dont need to sit through the lectures like your in the class. Upload them to your phone/ipod/ipad/laptop and watch when you are doing something or even listen to them in the car.
      Personally I watch them on one monitor _while playing World of Tanks_ on the other :o. 5 courses in parallel so far, passing all problem sets at >80% points.

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    3. Re:Rough on the Adult by charlieo88 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm a 33 year old homeowner with a full-time job and a LLC to do small consulting projects under. I have a fiance, a husky/samoyed/malamute mix...

      Mixed marriage, is it?

    4. Re:Rough on the Adult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I am taking the Crypto course myself right now... This is hard stuff...

      The Good:
      I am learning a lot of good stuff in this course, and already am able to apply the knowledge to my work life... The videos can be downloaded and played back offline. (Great if you ride the underground like I do each day.) In addition PDF and PPT versions of the lectures available in addtion to transscripts. The online forums are quite active. Lot's of 3rd party help available via Wikipedia and Google...

      The Bad:
      The Google+ groups and local study groups don't seem to be panning out too well.. It would not surprise me if the registered students are in the tens of thousands, but there are probably less than 50 active folks in the forums. (There are enough people to keep things moving, but one would expect more.) There just aren't enough examples given, and the papers refered too are often to technical to understand initially. (Needs a good open source textbook with lots of proofs, examples, and additional problems/answers.) The Math and Programing requirements were understated... (Programming became optional after class started tho...)

      The Ugly:
      The Notations in questions and expected formatting of answers during tests can be quite unknown until the first few folks try and report back what works and doesn't... You WILL spend at least 10 hours a week on this class, and quite possibly much more...

      The main thing to remember is you DON'T have to pass to learn something, and it is likely you can take the class again if you really want too... I like it, and it is free, but it is like taking a night class, without the benefits of being accredited...

  13. Better link: by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2

    same article without a paywall: post-gazette site

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  14. dont forget Australian OpenLearning by citizenr · · Score: 2
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  15. That's a business? Really? by Alex+Belits · · Score: 2

    Coursera (pronounced COR-sayr-uh), based in Mountain View, Calif., intends to announce that it has received financial backing from two of Silicon Valley’s premier venture capital firms, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers and New Enterprise Associates.

    The founders said they were not ready to announce a strategy for profitability, but noted that the investment gave them time to develop new ways to generate revenue.

    In other words, THERE ARE NO PLANS TO GET ANY KIND OF REVENUE. "Investments" is the only money they are getting.
    It would be great as schools' internal project, or government-sponsored educational initiative. It may even work as a nonprofit charity until donors will start stuffing their own "courses" in it. But one thing that it is not, is a business.

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    1. Re:That's a business? Really? by Alex+Belits · · Score: 2

      Which may be the eventual revenue model, especially if one views free courses as a form of marketing for the schools.

      That's a job for a few faculty members or consultants maintaining school's own site with those courses, not a business.

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  16. The Crypto course with Prof Boneh by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've been doing the crypto course with professor Boneh at Stanford.

    1) It's not easy. If you aren't up on number theory and discrete probability, you'll be learning it.
    2) It's not 'Khan Academy'. This is college level stuff.
    3) It's free.
    4) It's quite a bit of work to keep up on the homework and grok all the lectures.
    5) It's good. I've been doing crypto for a long time. I'm learning new things that are useful to my job.

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    1. Re:The Crypto course with Prof Boneh by sgauss · · Score: 2

      I'm taking the same course. I'm probably spending 10-15 hours a week, and that's a challenge as like many I have a full time job, family, house and other responsibilities. The material is challenging and the class moves at a quick pace. Boneh is an excellent teacher which really does make a difference.