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Is Middle Age Evolution's Crowning Achievement?

Hugh Pickens writes "Reproductive biologist David Bainbridge writes that with the onset of wrinkles, love handles, and failing eyesight we are used to dismissing our fifth and sixth decades as a negative chapter in our lives. However recent scientific findings show just how crucial middle age has been to the success of our species and that with the probable existence of lots of prehistoric middle-aged people, natural selection had plenty to work on. 'We lead an energy-intensive, communication-driven, information-rich way of life, and it was the evolution of middle age that supported this,' writes Bainbridge, adding that middle age is a controlled and preprogrammed process, not of decline, but of development. 'When we think of human development, we usually think of the growth of a fetus or the maturation of a child into an adult. Yet the tightly choreographed transition into middle age is a later but equally important stage in which we are each recast into yet another novel form' — resilient, healthy, energy-efficient and productive. 'The middle aged may not have been able to outrun the prey, but they were really good at working out where it might be hiding and dividing up the spoils afterwards.' Although some critics say that middle age is a construct of the middle aged, Bainbridge asserts that one key role of middle age is the propagation of information. 'All animals inherit a great deal of information in their genes; some also learn more as they grow up. Humans have taken this second form of information transfer to a new level. We are born knowing and being able to do almost nothing. Each of us depends on a continuous infusion of skills, knowledge and customs, collectively known as culture, if we are to survive. And the main route by which culture is transferred is by middle-aged people showing and telling their children — as well as the young adults with whom they hunt and gather — what to do.'"

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  1. Author is middle aged by sideslash · · Score: 3, Informative

    Author David Bainbridge is 44. And 25 years ago he wrote a book claiming that teenagers are the pinnacle of human existence.

    (OK, so it wasn't 25 years ago. But that would have been funny.)

  2. Re:How is that different from simply old age? by avgjoe62 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am middle aged, nearing fifty. I (and my friends) can still hike a trail with my kids, keep up with them and show them interesting things, stuff I remember wondering about when I was their age.

    My Mom, however, is 77. She cannot hike those same trails at our speed and she has difficulty remembering things. She stays back with the great-grandkids and the octogenarian dog, baking cookies while we hike.

    There is a qualitative difference between middle age and old age, but that may not be readily apparent if you have nothing to compare to.

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  3. Re:How is that different from simply old age? by Oswald · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would agree that any attempt to define middle age solely in terms of calendar age is bound to be arbitrary. But the summary hits the important distinctions with "resilient, healthy, energy-efficient and productive." At some point for each person (who lives long enough) the advantages of experience can't make for the physical decline, and we transition from "middle age" to "old age."

    Of course these terms are pathetically vague, and we need better ones that say what we mean, but the distinction itself is real.

  4. Re:Hmm... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 3, Funny

    Boomer "science". :-)

    "Look! We're still the center of the unverse! The reason for human existence!"

    Calm down, Grandpa.

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  5. Except... by gQuigs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My very limited understanding was that evolution really could only work if the survivors were of reproductive age. If they are great at surviving and making children then it would work, otherwise not.

    Ah.. fine I read the article:
    "The probable existence of lots of prehistoric middle-aged people means that natural selection had plenty to work on. Those with beneficial traits would have been more successful at nurturing their children to reproductive age and helping provide for their grandchildren, and hence would have passed on those traits to their descendants. As a result, modern middle age is the result of millennia of natural selection."

    So really it's grandparents that this article is really getting at. Middle aged for the purpose of having your offspring's offspring survive. That actually makes sense.

    1. Re:Except... by Jessified · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So really it's grandparents that this article is really getting at. Middle aged for the purpose of having your offspring's offspring survive. That actually makes sense.

      That makes perfect sense when you consider menopause.

      Evolutionarily, when does it ever make sense for a species to "willingly," as it were, make oneself infertile? In our case, the advantage is that the females stop reproducing and focus the remainder of their energy on their current descendants, rather than produce babies up until death and spread the resources thin.

  6. Re:How is that different from simply old age? by Cat_Herder_GoatRoper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not buying that outdated knowledge does not persist. For example Religion!

  7. it's a good thing by haemish · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As an aging geek, and as much as an aging body sucks, I wouldn't trade my wiser more developed brain for my younger body.

  8. Re:Middle Ages by grahamd0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You seem to have a gross misunderstanding of libertarians.

  9. Re:Hmm... by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 3, Informative

    Baby boomers aren't really middle-aged any more. Depending on how you define "baby boomer," "middle age," and "old age," anyway. But if you were born five years after the end of WW2, you're old enough to start collecting Social Security this year.

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  10. Re:BS by Brad1138 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm 47 and I feel and know that I'm over the hill. Life's something that takes place before you're 30.

    REALLY? I am 45 and can still ski and hike with the best of them. I don't feel close to being over the hill. My son is 18 and skis like a maniac, but I can still wear him out. Old is a state of mind, and "middle age" or 40s/50s is definitely NOT old. My father played tennis into his mid/late 70's.

    I hope you are just trying to provoke conversation, if not, I really feel sorry for you.

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  11. Re:How is that different from simply old age? by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Our culture is so old phobic that people just want to bury their heads in the sand.

    Yea, you're right, parts of the US culture is like that, certainly much of the media.

    And that's why we have old guys hitting on twenty something year old women

    Uh, no, dude, that's NOT why.

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  12. Re:How is that different from simply old age? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 3
  13. Re:How is that different from simply old age? by ankhank · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a match made in, er, evolution:

    Little children love to hear the same story repeatedly, over and over, using exactly the same words.
    Old folks repeat the same stories over and over, and if they get the words wrong, the children correct them.

    Perfection.

  14. Knowledge is key by erroneus · · Score: 2

    Without the more aged and experienced to teach the next, there is no perpetuation of knowledge, experience and wisdom. Without it, we only have instinct.

  15. Re:BS by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

    I had an assistant manager when I worked at a grocery store in college. He was 22 years old, had a wife, 2 kids, house, and a career that was "going places." His boss, the store manager, was just like him but 15 years further on - making six figures and managing one of the highest traffic stores in the chain. That man, 37 years old, looked like he was 65, and acted like he felt he was 65. The way the cocky 22yo am was going at things, chain smoking, creeping around corners to "keep tabs" on everyone, blowing a gasket when things didn't go his way, he was going to look worse than the gm by the time he hit 35.

    The gm was starting to mellow out, only worry about the important stuff, didn't really ever get mad anymore, he was much more effective than the hair-trigger assistant - but it was a hard lesson for him to learn.

    On the other hand, I know a guy who's about 62, owns his own company of 100 employees, comes to work 3 or 4 days a week for 5-6 hours a day, does what he likes, treats everyone more or less fairly, and is having a great life. At 62, he's in much better shape than the 37 year old general manager who learned the hard way what stressing out really does for you.

  16. Re:Doesn't make sense. by alen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it's not reproduction, but having your genes go on

    being alive in middle age means you can take care of your grand kids while their parents work and give them a chance to have more kids. if you look around the cultures with the strong extended family traditions like latinos and asians seem to have more kids

    a lot of the english/irish/italian/ kids can't wait to move halfway across the country as soon as they can. in other cultures where you stay closer to your parents you can have more kids if they help take care of them

  17. Re:How is that different from simply old age? by rthille · · Score: 3

    Heh, a recent FB status of mine was "I'd like some Tree of Life Root about now." Of course I'm probably too old at this point and it would kill me, but I'm definitely feeling like evolution is done with me and I'm supposed to die off soon to make room for the younger and faster.

    And I'm 44.

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  18. Re:Doesn't make sense. by IdolizingStewie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, but if you can live long enough to keep your kid from dying at 15 while he's still showing off trying to get laid, then you've helped to pass on your genes further. If you can watch your grandbabies while your kid is out hunting, you've helped to pass on your genes further. The continuation of your bloodline doesn't stop with your first red-faced, squalling brat.

  19. Re:How is that different from simply old age? by avgjoe62 · · Score: 2

    I am old.

    That's OK though. I feel no need to make excuses, to compensate, and my goal is to become (hopefully) wizened really old guy - hopefully healthy, too.

    I know my limitations and I accept what nature has given me and is leaving me. Unfortunately, when I express that I hear things like," You're NOT old!" or "Don't be so negative!"

    Yep. Been there, done that, made a t-shirt.

    I actually am enjoying getting older. It's been the subject of a lot of my writing lately, even this that I posted yesterday.

    Getting older sucks sometimes, but there are advantages too. You just have to learn how to appreciate them.

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  20. Re:How is that different from simply old age? by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From an evolutionary POV, it should be the older guys hitting on younger women (you might think that I'm above a certain age, I couldn't possibly comment).

    You can only really examine a man for his propensity for success - both culutral and genetic - until he gets out of his twenties. Alas, women have a certain reproductive shelf life. The inbuilt male interest in younger women is a reflection of this - older women are less likely to be fertile, more likely to have troublesome pregnancies, more likely to have children with birth defects. On the other hand, for a man to have reached his forties at all, let alone with all his faculties intact, was no mean feat for much of the history of the human race. A woman would have to weigh this kind of mate in the balance - the advantages of his experience and the proof of his superior genetic quality, versus the possibility that he'll peg out and not be around to provide resources for her - but you can see how a middle aged man is, from an evolutionary point of view, a much better bet than a younger man.

    Perhaps the stereotype of the mid-life crisis is actually just a successful evolutionary strategy that just receives bad press. Or perhaps I'm just sucking on those sour grapes... :-)

  21. Re:BS by reboot246 · · Score: 2

    Bah! I'm 59 and STILL not over the hill. Now get back to work so you can pay into Social Security! I want some money to be there when I start collecting it. :p

  22. Re:Doesn't make sense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I read a little blurb years ago by a guy who was in the peace core in the Caribbean. In a little village, 200 people or so. There was one really old guy who was eighty or some such. He was long past being able to do much more than gossip and look after small children. Till the day they heard over the radio that a hurricane was coming. Most people didn't really know what a hurricane was, but he did. He'd been through one when he was a young man. And all these years later he knew what to do. He had young men go into the forrest and bring back logs, showed them how to brace the insides of homes. To board up the windows, block the doors. Use rope to tie down the roof. Ordered families to just abandon badly constructed huts. Cut down and remove trees that were likely to come down. People were busy and a little grumpy but did what they were told. Hurricane hit in the middle of the night, 120 mile an hour winds. Most of the poorly constructed houses got knocked down, the ones that were reinforced survived and the people in them. No one died, not in that village. Some other villages, they didn't do anything, and houses fell down, people died.

    So the thing is, the old man had already passed on his genes. By living long he was also able to use and pass on hard won knowledge and thus insure that his children. grand children and great grand children survived.

  23. Well, duuh by frisket · · Score: 2

    That's why a senator is called a senator ("senex" is the Latin for "old man"). Used to be that a senate was a body of older, wiser, experienced heads who could advise on what to do because they had likely seen it all before, and remembered how to handle it. The last thing you want in a senate is young people with no experience.

  24. Re:BS by 12WTF$ · · Score: 2

    Yeh smoking rugs is really bad for you

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  25. Re:How is that different from simply old age? by avgjoe62 · · Score: 2

    I probably take better care of myself than most and I've always been blessed with good health (thanks for the genes, Mom and Dad!). Very few people that just meet me can guess my actual age, most giving me about ten years (unless they're ALL being very kind...). I know of damn few fifty year old men that are lucky enough to be able to do some of the stuff I do.

    Does this mean I could beat my daughters in a foot race? No way. I can't bench press the weight their boyfriends do. I can't swim as fast as I used to or as long as the younger guys can, and I love swimming more than hiking. A good day of horse back riding leaves me sore for a lot longer than it used to. And if we go on a new hiking trail, I am a bit slower than them. Could I do three solid days of hiking like I used to? Well, no, at least not comfortably. There are a lot of areas where I can see I am not what I used to be.

    But get me out on the trails my friends and I have been hiking since we were kids and that is where I do really well. I know every twist and turn, every slippery rock, every rotten branch. It would be very hard for anyone to hike these trails like I do.

    And that probably brings up another difference about age - I like to go where I know what to expect. I'm not as big on exploring new places as I was when I was in my twenties and thirties. I'd rather go where I know the surroundings. I leave the exploring and blazing new trails up to the kids. That is just not me anymore.

    I expect too that there will come a day when I am not up to doing what I can do now. Probably within the next ten years, I'll be looking longingly at the rocker on the front porch when we set out for a hike, but that day is not here yet. I'll enjoy what I can while I can and hopefully gracefully surrender the things of my youth (and middle age) when I must.

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