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Australia's Largest Police Force Accused of Widespread Piracy

beaverdownunder writes "UK software giant Micro Focus is demanding at least $10 million in damages from the New South Wales police for widespread use of unlicensed copies of its ViewNow software it is alleged were used by members to access the COPS criminal intelligence database. Although other government organisations also alleged to have mis-used the software have settled with Micro Focus, the NSW police refuse to do so, instead seeking to fight out a battle in Federal court."

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  1. The U.S. demands extradition by crazyjj · · Score: 5, Funny

    We acknowledge that the crime didn't happen in the U.S., and the company involved is British. But we feel we have jurisdiction.

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    1. Re:The U.S. demands extradition by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, the obvious course of action is to extradite them to the UK for trial, and if found guilty punish them by sending them to Australia!

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  2. How dare they! by P-niiice · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those cops put their lives on the line everyday! Who else would protect us from murderers, robbers and people who don't ....pay for....things they use...

    nevermind

    1. Re:How dare they! by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is why my minions will all have stylish uniforms. It gives them legitimacy.

    2. Re:How dare they! by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is why my minions will all have stylish uniforms. It gives them legitimacy.

      You'd be amazed at where you can go with a clipboard and a high-viz jacket.

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  3. why are we even using this word. by nimbius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    it seems whenever a major multinational corporation or government entity is charged with piracy, they arent. theyre simply "out of compliance" or "underlicensed" or some other equally innocuous amorphity they can escape through hiring a compliance officer, cutting a comparatively insignificant check, and saying theyre sorry. when a private citizen is charged with piracy its almost always widespread, intractable, correlated to violent terrorism, and prosecuted at the fervor of a rape case. its exactly the opposite of what it should be.
    if as numerous industries do you are trying to make the case for intellectual property, it seems to do irreparable harm to the thesis to have a double standard for something so dire. if indeed using BusyBox and not adhering to the GPL or downloading the latest Nine Inch Nails album and not paying for it is just the same as stealing a car, then the logical conclusion is this police department should be disbanded. but if in practice we see a double standard then we're led to consider legitimately that piracy probably isnt as demonic as copyright clearing houses would hope you will believe.

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    1. Re:why are we even using this word. by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 5, Informative

      downloading the latest Nine Inch Nails album

      Odd choice of example, there. The Slip was released under a Creative Commons Attribution, Non-Commercial, Share Alike license. You may distribute it without contravening the licensing terms as long as you do not profit from the distribution, and you don't attribute the work to anyone other than Trent Reznor.

      I understand the point you're making, but that kind of mistake is the sort of thing idiots will jump on to "prove" you know nothing of the subject.

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  4. Re:Are the cops getting cut off from the internet? by hawguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Also note that when Micro Focus started investigating the cops illegal software copying, the cops began deleting the software from a number of systems.

    That is willful destruction of evidence of a crime.

    Sure, right, because that could have been in no way a move to cease breaking the law by keeping it.

    Kind of the same way a drug dealer flushes his goods down the toilet when the police arrive to serve a warrant - he's not destroying evidence, he's just trying to cease breaking the law.

  5. Re:Thieves by hawguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Police department wants to fight it out in federal court to try and establish their right to steal software? Hmm...

    It's possible that the contract is not as clear as Micro Focus makes out it to be and the police department thought they had a site license. Since the police department is willing to fight rather than pay up, it's quite possible that the contract is unclear enough that they could win - if it was really a clear 6500 seat license contract, it's not likely that the police department would pay millions in legal costs to delay an inevitable $10M penalty.

  6. Micro Focus tried to screw us for $60000 once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Regular Slashdotter but posting AC. Back in the late 90's we used Windows Micro Focus COBOL a lot but we needed the Y2K version for our server that we complied the code on. Had a nice chat with the sales guy who asked what we did with it, and then a letter arrived saying we were in violation of our license and we needed a RTL for every PC we had it installed, which would have cost $60000 or they'd see us in court. Thank goodness we had a copy of our original license which allowed us unlimited clients as part of the original server install. Our legal team then wrote back telling them to piss off (in legal speak obviously). After that we migrated off their platform ASAP, wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.