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Firefox 12 Released — Introduces Silent, Chrome-like Updater

MrSeb writes "Firefox 12 has been officially released, with only one major new feature: A silent, background updater. Now you will have to approve the Firefox Software Updater when you first install Firefox, but after that the browser will update silently — just like Chrome. In other news, the Find feature now reliably centers the page on any matches — hooray!" Here are the release notes, the list of bug fixes, and the download page.

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  1. User control by billcopc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As long as I can opt-out of the silent updates, I see no problem with this. The quicker we can get users to update, the better. Developers, on the other hand, need stability and control.

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    1. Re:User control by SpaceWiz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As long as I can opt-out of the silent updates, I see no problem with this. The quicker we can get users to update, the better. Developers, on the other hand, need stability and control.

      So your end users are running a version or three ahead of you? Typically the developers are ahead of the end users not the other way around...

  2. If you're tired by arcite · · Score: 5, Funny

    I could do a few rounds with her for you.

  3. It's not just like chrome... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    but after that the browser will update silently - just like Chrome.

    Chrome installs the browser into the user's folder in order to silence the UAC controls.

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    Firefox is continuing to install in the protected system area, without the benefit of the UAC warnings, bypassing any Windows security.

    Will Firefox now become a new attack vector for exploits?

    The developers said this move was in response to the complaints about the flurry of versions being released. But I have to say, I'd rather have fewer versions released than to have a new security exploit vector installed.

  4. Lazy devs strike again. by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Firefox simplifies the update process for Windows users by removing the user account control dialog (UAC) pop-up while maintaining the security of your system. Once a user gives explicit permission to Firefox on their first installation, they will not be prompted again for subsequent releases.

    yeah, nothing could possibly go wrong with having a service running that never prompts the user when it is doing something. Lazy devs strike again.

    1. Re:Lazy devs strike again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Speaking of lazy devs, from the linked release notes:

      Known Issues

      UNRESOLVED
      Windows: The use of Microsoft's System Restore functionality shortly after updating Firefox may prevent future updates (see 730285)

      Apparently not only does something already go wrong, it can prevent your from ever being able to update Firefox again! (Without deleting your current profile, reinstalling won't work!)

      But who cares, according to the calendar, it's release time NOW!

  5. Re:Gahhh!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is exactly what the Firefox extended release is for.

  6. Re:What's best by ClioCJS · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's why I'd make my enterprise application use Internet Explorer. U mad?

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  7. Re:So it has come to this. by Cito · · Score: 5, Informative

    someone hasn't seen the latest benchmarks on tomshardware then.

    Firefox is just barely but is beating chrome and IE in speed for last 2 versions..

    Chrome fanbois are about as bad as Appletards

  8. Re:Finally by medlefsen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't give a crap about new features and I haven't had plugin issues in a very very long time. I just want bug/security fixes and the latest standards support. Speed improvements are certainly welcome though.

    For something as important as a web browser the updates have to be automatic and in the background. Most users are so afraid of doing anything to their computer they never install updates and then we end up with a bunch of vulnerable web users (who are also holding back newer web features).

    Yes, it does require a bit more care on the part of the vendor to make sure they don't automatically break everyone's computer but that is a necessary risk.

  9. Re:Finally by sexconker · · Score: 5, Funny

    I updated from v3.5 to v11 just 2 weeks ago, so that I could get SPDY support. I don't anticipate updating again until v20+.

    See you in November!

  10. Re:Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, it does require a bit more care on the part of the vendor to make sure they don't automatically break everyone's computer but that is a necessary risk.

    Which means there is absolutely no way Mozilla should be doing this. They've proven reliably that they can not be trusted to release an update that doesn't break massive amounts of stuff people care about because of their own ignorant engineering and 'I'm right your wrong' management morons. Yes, I'm talking to you Asa. They are doing exactly what drove them bankrupt the last 2 times they've failed.

    No intelligent person wants a Mozilla auto-update so they can wake up tomorrow with a browser that looks different just because one fuck inside Mozilla thinks X group of users don't matter ... ignoring the fact that he just said the majority of his user base doesn't matter.

    If you haven't had plugin issues in a very long time then you don't use plugins or your definition of 'long time' is done on swatch time or something stupid as the rest of the world regularly complains about Mozilla stupidity with plugins, yes, even after all the crap they did to auto-patch plugins.

    Its mind blowing that you think Mozilla is in any way qualified to do auto updates for anything, thats a really dumb thing to allow them to do.

  11. You can disable auto-updates by jlebar · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can disable auto-updates, regardless of whether or not you're running the extended support version.

    Preferences -> Advanced -> Update.

    You can also download every version of Firefox we've ever released here. We have no interest in forcing users to run the latest version.

  12. Re:What's best by leptons · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Chrome's auto-update killed our business that relies heavily on SVG. They introduced a bug to their SVG code that made our product unusable, and since we were relying on chrome-frame for IE, it didn't affect just our chrome users. Fortunately it was fixed within a month but that was a month of hell for us.

  13. Re:What's best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Next time use something which users never bother to update ... Adobe Flash

  14. Re:What's best by deniable · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wrong. They announced a version that's hard to find and only good for twelve months. They might call it an enterprise version, but I'd say they're smoking dilithium crystals.