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Researchers Identify Genetic Systems Disrupted In Autistic Brain
hessian sends this excerpt from Medical Xpress "Autism has a strong genetic basis, but so far efforts to identify the responsible genes have had mixed results. The reason for this is that autism is influenced by many different genes, and different genes are involved in different individuals, making it hard to find the common genetic ground between patients. Now, research conducted at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem has shown that despite this fact, the different genes involved in autism tend to be involved in specific processes in the brain. This can explain, on the one hand, similarities in the behavioral symptoms of different autistics, but also the large spectrum of behaviors observed in different autistic individuals."
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Hear that Andrew Wakefield, you murdering piece of trash! Real researchers are finding real causes for autism, and not making them up and compromising the health of tens of thousands of people to make a buck.
May you roast in hell, and in the meantime come down with some particular noisome and noxious kind of cancer that makes you smell like rotting flesh and cause unceasing and unbelievable agony.
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No, no, no.... See, the vaccines contain chemicals like dihydrogen monoxide that travel through the bloodstream up to the brain, where they interact with the homeopathic echoes of infancy still resonating in the neurons. These deadly chemicals then alter the genes to cause further infant behavior, as has been observed here. Since the child now has to fight against these infant tendencies, development is slowed in what we call "autism".
Totally makes sense, I swear...
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
Considering that low levels of autism-like symptoms seem to be prevalent in engineering disciplines, is this something that could be used to turn your dreamy/artistic/social child into more of a nerd/engineer type?
Also, I wonder what sort of reaction there would be if instead of autism, this paper was dealing with a potential to detect/fix some more politically sensitive group such as the GLBT community
It is true that, if there were no dihydrogen monoxide in the brain, the child would not exhibit autism.
Autism is not genetic, it is acquired due to vaccination. Please keep your hands off the precious bodily fluids!
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...the article is dealing with a gene for Autism Spectrum Disorder, not Tourette Syndrome.
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There is malice, then there is malice that causes the death of hundreds.
While I am personnaly againts the death penality, that guy is guilty beyond any shadows of a doubt. The facts are as follows:
1- He wanted to sell a "vaccine alternative"
2- He decided the best way to do that was if people were afraid of vaccines.
3- Profit
That was his plan, and because of it hundreds of kids are now dead.
I wish him the worst
You know it is also scientific fact that all people with mental disorders, terrorists and pedophiles have dihydrogen monoxide in their bodies. Surely we must think of the children's mental and physical healthy while punishing terrorists. Ban the stuff!
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But the media are also to blame for thoroughly scapegoating him - he wasn't alone, but from all the coverage, you definitely get the impression that he was...
While the effort put into the analysis in this paper is admirable, it sort of fades into the background of the glut of "we took existing data sets and made a network -- here's the picture" sort of systems biology papers that are being cranked out right now. I'm just wondering, of all the rigorous and higher-impactautism genetics research being done right now, why did this one in particular warrant a slashdot blurb? This certainly isn't the first (or even most compelling) research to uncover convergent biological processes in the autistic brain.
The first attempt to make the syndrome seem not-so-bad was the labeling of "simple". When you called someone "simple", others knew what you meant, but it was clear you were sympathetic to their state. That changed dramatically over the course of a decade or two, as "simple" took extremely negative connotations.
The next derivation of the term was "dumb". By calling someone this, you avoided the idea of "low intelligence" all together. In fact, you were saying they were quite smart, but just weak with verbal skills. I suppose this is closest to how we use "Asberger Syndrome" today. Of course, time did not honor this PC term well, and it quickly came to mean the exact opposite.
Next was "slow". Unfortunately this term didn't sound scientific enough, so a new term, "retarded" was quickly invented to take its place. Sure, those with Latin language background knew what it meant, but to the general public, it was a new term. So, it was the accepted term for quite a while, but like all those before it, its time was limited. PSA's are shown on TV today to completely end the use of this term that was once promoted by the medical community.
Autism is now usually argued as something separate from all those terms above, however the lack of medical diagnosis of retardation has caused significant confusion among parents today. Although it is more narrowly defined by the medical community than previous terms, I predict that it, like all the others, will eventually became used as a taunt, and suddenly be regarded as a slur.
I don't know if this progression is necessarily a bad thing. Medical diagnoses are getting better, and the fact that we keep changing terms to keep everyone happy shows sensitivity that previous generations may not have had.
But, the down side is that the term is used for just about everything. The current conditions labeled as Autism covers far too much for studies such as the one in this headline to ever be successful. There is almost no chance that a single cause of autism would ever cover more than about 5% of the cases.
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In some cases I'd consider [autism symptoms] bugs, in other cases they're arguably features.
Someone on a board I hang out on told me that Asperger syndrome exists as a check on the social facade to prevent it from diverging too far from honesty. Consider this article about how extroverts answer personality surveys.
For what it's worth, if you have a friend or family member say they don't want to vaccinate their kids remind them of the following math:
If you count *all* children with autism where anybody made any claim that it was the fault of a vaccine...
And you count all children that have a medical reason for the vaccine hurting them (egg allergy, severe adverse reaction, etc.)...
And you count *all* children that were made very ill (beyond the normal fever, but not bad enough to be in the above category)...
If you take all those kids in one pool, and count them against the number of children that died young every year from the diseases vaccines prevent, you will find that even accepting the pseudoscience as truth, it is *still* better to vaccinate your kids from a numbers game. I forget the exact numbers, but IIRC it was like 3:1 deaths to everything else as a ratio.
I converted one of my family members with this argument. True they were still reluctant, but laying out the numbers you can't counter that, especially when you count the pseudoscience numbers in favor of the pseudoscience, and the vaccines still win.
I'd love to see Randal do an XKCD chart on this...
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If you are a creationist, how do you know that God didn't deliberately design some infants with autism?
Everything that God created in the six creative ages was "very good", without disability, according to Genesis 1. Imperfection entered humankind through Adam.
It makes them excellent drivers XD
some [people with low-functioning autism] can not even talk, they simply communicate through pointing and grunting.
So in other words, neurotypicality is like the command line and low-functioning autism is like a GUI. Or what do I misunderstand?
May he die of something that would have otherwise been treatable if he had gotten a vaccine.
"Autism has a strong genetic basis, but so far efforts to identify the responsible genes have had mixed results. The reason for this is that autism is influenced by many different genes, and different genes are involved in different individuals, making it hard to find the common genetic ground between patients."
Perhaps, alternately to considering a more complex/obfuscated genetic basis, we should again consider a NON-genetic basis?
How about the experiment everyone conveniently chooses to forget, the occurrence of autism in only one genetic twin (sharing identical genes, gestation environments, etc.).
Bukowski said it. I believe it. That settles it.
Wakefield was the scam artists. Yes, lawyers, TV show hosts, celebrities and a whole host of incredibly fucking stupid people helped him, but at the end of the day it was his scam.
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What does that link go to, goatse? I can think of no other reason to use bit.ly at slashdot. This ain't twitter. I'm not clicking any damned links that I don't know where they lead to.
Be glad I'm not moderating today, shortened URLs in comments get an automatic "troll" from me, simply because there's no rational reason except trolling to use one.
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My daughter is autistic and to any parent that thinks it's special and thinks it's what makes their kid, their kid, "fuck you!"
This condition IS a huge part of what makes me special, bro. I will make billions of dollars in my lifetime thanks to this condition. Yes it has given me challenges, but you know what, I have benefited from learning to overcome them.
Your ignorance and stupidity is disgusting and revolting. Look in the mirror. Animals like you are driven by your fear, not facts and reason. You are so busy stampeding towards a "cure" for "autism" (who can say with certainty what the fuck autism even IS, anyway?) to fix your OWN problems (YOUR daughter and HER condition), that you would gladly, willingly, happily, ignorantly run right over and fuck over others like me in the process.
If it were up to stupid assholes like yourself, people like me would be identified at 3 years old as "autistic", then immediately put on prescription meds to "cure" us. Whole generations of minds would be fucked over and ruined thanks to the ignorance and just plain inability to think of normal simpletons with their average intelligence and average stupidity.
So as a person who is autistic, and fucking proud of it....let me the one to say: No, Anonymous Asshole.....Fuck YOU.
And then you remember that out of every 66 boys born today, one of them will become affected by some form of autism....
so those of you who are pregnant or have a wife/girlfriend/family member who is pregnant, ONE OUT OF SIXTY-SIX! If you like those odds, go for it and take no precautions, do the vaccinations. I for one would love to do it over, would love to have skipped the vaccines at least for a few more years. But to watch your 'normal' child who just learned to say 'butterfly' revert downwards and now his biggest recognizable word is 'Mum', you've got to think back to 'what could i have done'. maybe if we had put off the vaccines for a couple years....
Not saying it IS the vaccines, but as a father of an autistic boy, i sometimes think.
Those who are about to have a child... 1 in 66. 1 in 66. 1 in 66. Do you like the odds? Do you punk?
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Keep moving forward.
Now if they can only find a genetic link in why so many people on /. have Assburgers~
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3:1 seems rather high, I'd like to see the true facts, I couldn't figure it being higher than 500:1 and that's just a guess. The reason I say this is that any kid that is afflicted by an effect of vaccines hits national media, get's huge coverage, etc and that only seems to happen once or twice a year. Hep C (a vaccine given to kids) afflicts millions of Americans and thousands die daily from it. Then we have cervical cancer vaccine for girls, the standard vaccines, etc etc etc.
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1- He wanted to sell a "vaccine alternative"
2- He decided the best way to do that was if people were afraid of vaccines.
3- Profit
Not quite correct. He didn't want to sell a vaccine alternative, he wanted to sell an alternative vaccine. He had a stake in a company that made a measles vaccine and wanted to defame the MMR vaccine in favor of that.
Obviously, things did not go according to plan.
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Being done by Jews. After the pseudo-science perpetrated on their ancestors by the Nazis.
There are also members of the deaf community who get P.O.d when doctors suggest that congenital deafness in an infant or child is a pathology to be treated. E.g. with cochlear implants.
That means exactly boo when it comes to deciding whether cures should be developed for congenital deafness and the same applies to developing cures or treatments for high functioning autistics (as Aspergers is now classed per the new DSM). And someone who actually has Aspergers would be less likely to buy in to the moral relativism behind such claims than an Evangelical. Sadly, lying to ourself is the last kind of lying we give up.
It isn't the vaccines, and not vaccinating puts not only your own child at risk, but other children as well as herd immunity breaks down.
This has been dealt it. Wakefield was a fraud, and if things worked as they ought to, he'd be rotting in prison. There was no link between MMR and autism. Never was. Never ever ever ever was. You might as well not feed your child milk, because guess what, I'm sure you could make some correlation between milk and autism.
Let it be repeated into your dull, stupid, worthless brain. Correlation does not imply causation.
But I'm all for you denying your child vaccinations. By the same token I think it should be against the law for you to put them in public school, in any publicly funded daycare, that they should have to wear full environmental suits when around other children until all the parents of those children have signed a waiver.
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He's my brother! the grad student who did this research that is. Kudos bro!
(I apologize for the lack of real content here, I'm just so excited for my brother)
Should be fixable with a quick sonic screwdrivering, then.
Your sense of humor is apparently misunderstood under appreciated. Not everyone with mod points know what to do with them.
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
Like I said I don't remember the exact numbers, but I remember thinking the same thing. 3 kids would have died (without vaccines) for every one that got sick (with them).
Now herd immunity will skew those numbers given that the majority of the population is vaccinated, but it is still crazy numbers.
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Are you woken up at 4:30 a.m. because your autistic child won't go back to sleep?
Or kept up till midnight for the same reason, or end up giving up and sleeping on the floor next to him? yes.
Do you have to spend $6.00 on a gluten free loaf of bread?
no, because I don't have those allergies in my family.
Does it hurt when you remember what your son WAS like and wonder if he will ever be 'normal'?
not so much, I am happy I have a son that is high functioning (which it sounds like may not be your case, so you have my sympathies).
etc.
Look, all of us have issues, I've not walked in your shoes, just like you've not walked in mine (high function Autism and factor IX hemophilia), I'll agree that the post you were responding to was worded badly, and aggressively, but I must agree with him that the vaccinations were highly unlikely to have been causative. I'm going to guess this happened around the time he got the MMR shot series? This developmentally also happens to be the time when the brain makes lots of changes, one of which is manifesting symptoms of the miswiring we are discussing here.
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Not saying it IS the vaccines, but as a father of an autistic boy, i sometimes think.
Right. No offense, because I understand the emotional feeling of lacking control, but what you could have done is increased your child's chance of contracting a potentially dangerous disease with no effect whatsoever on their autism condition.
Autism is a developmental disorder. It happens over time, as the brain develops. A child who at first seems normal but then takes a turn, regressing, is perfectly normal progression of the disease. It is impossible for the changes to have occurred between when they first received vaccines and when you first noticed symptoms.
You say "if you like those odds" as if vaccines have anything to do with the odds. Those odds exist independent of vaccination, so liking the odds should have nothing to do with the decision to vaccinate. If you like the odds of your child getting sick with a preventable disease for the completely illusory feeling of having done something about autism, then by all means, skip vaccinations.
This desire to blame something tangible, to try to find something we could have done differently, is an emotional reaction and not a sound basis for medical advice. It's perfectly understandable, but understanding it is exactly why we shouldn't listen to it. I'm sorry about your kid, but there's nothing you could have done and not getting vaccines would have only been for the worse.
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As in my post, i am NOT saying it IS the vaccines, just that as a parent of an autistic child, you punish yourself sometimes and wonder if, maybe, it COULD have been that (there is mercury in some vaccines which has been linked to a cause of autism).
The old 'woulda, coulda, shoulda'. Maybe if.... maybe if only.... what if....
If you were to have a child become severely disabled right before your eyes because of some other reason, you would grab at straws too.
I appreciate what you are saying and ESPECIALLY the way you said it: intelligently and like an adult. But yes, i still punish myself and wonder... maybe if the vaccine had, as you said, NOT been given at the age where the brain IS making a lot of changes...... wonder, wonder, wonder, punish, punish, punish.
And yes, lol, i know ALL about the sleeping on the floor in front of his door so he can't get out to wake everyone else up: i certainly can feel THAT pain and sympathize. Also, the gluten free diet IS helping make him a little more 'normal'. Best thing we ever did for him, expensive as it is.
Thank you for expressing yourself in an adult manner!
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We have information from the EPA which concludes that the turning-point for the autism boom started in 1988.
This coincides with the decade when many vaccines distributed were newly manufactured from human fetal tissue rather than chicken, pig and other cell lines. For some diseases there is no other option - the varicella virus will only grow in human tissue. Considering what we know about Kuru, BSE, Creutzfeldt-Jakob and other same-species prion diseases it isn't a big surprise that problems can occur along these lines.
So perhaps some of the vaccines contain DNA/RNA/Prion type impurities which are interfering with the neural stem-cells during development. Or perhaps other types of prions are being propagated through human milk, formula, medical equipment or other vectors. Prions are not destroyed during pasteurization and they can have long-lasting latencies. Most labs won't deal with prions as they are highly resistant to sterilization.
I said no... but I missed and it came out yes.
"The results of this study point toward contribution of minor and major perturbations in the two sub-networks of neuronal genes to ASD risk"
Notice genes *contribute* not cause, and they contribute to risk of ASD, not to ASD
This desire to blame something tangible, to try to find something we could have done differently, is an emotional reaction and not a sound basis for medical advice. It's perfectly understandable, but understanding it is exactly why we shouldn't listen to it. I'm sorry about your kid, but there's nothing you could have done and not getting vaccines would have only been for the worse.
Some people would say the same about a belief in a God, that it is a need to blame something, an emotional reaction and not a sound basis for running your life, but a lot of people still believe.
As long as my son can no longer say 'butterfly' i will still kick myself and wonder (but no i dont believe in a higher power). I love my son, but when it is 4:30 a.m. you wonder and wish and wonder and wish. Lacking control is one thing... losing your son and sanity is another.
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Like I said, I understand that -- as much as I can, not being you and not going through it, of course.
But to compare to something less emotional, I also understand why people think they're safer in a car they are driving versus a plane someone else is piloting. It makes perfect psychological sense why someone would be convinced airplanes are death traps and they are much better in a car. However advising people not to fly in airplanes because they'll be safer driving across the country in a car does not make sense. That is factually wrong. It's bad advice. A national movement of people promoting this viewpoint would be bad for public safety.
This is why despite respecting your feelings, when you say "if you like 1 in 66 odds of autism (implied: as a consequence of vaccines, much lower or no odds for the non-vaccinated) then go ahead " then it's no longer just feelings but bad, dangerous FUD and it must be countered before it becomes a public health risk (more than it already has).
But back to your feelings, maybe there's something you can help me understand which I never have before: Why does it seem like so much of the late-night wondering and second-guessing is focused around vaccines? Why is this quest for a reason for this to have happened -- perfectly understandable -- focused like a laser on something that there is essentially no chance is actually responsible because it goes against everything that is understood about the disease? That had the only thing actually implicating it as the cause shown to be an outright fraud?
I ask because I imagine that if I were in your shoes, I would want to find the reason, but I would want to find the real reason. I would want to find the real reason because if you find the real reason you could perhaps find real help. Or at least understand what happened, that it was indeed something I did, or if it was always out of my control and simply fate. So I'd like to think that I might have suspected vaccines, but once every piece of evidence showed that this isn't it, I'd have moved on to something else that might be right. Like, say, the science in this article.
Why isn't this so? I honestly don't get it.
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I'm not saying i believe it is the vaccines... just that you second guess EVERYTHING. Maybe if...
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i'm just saying you kick yourself ANYWAYS. It's probably like the people who don't believe in God, but don't take the lords name in vain just in case. Maybe if we had delayed giving him the vaccine. Maybe if i'd had different parents. Maybe if i hadn't eaten so many beets. Maybe....
And the one in 66 isn't due to vaccine causitive belief... 1 in 66 boys is a FACT! 1 in 66 boys born, 1 in 100 children (the autism rate in girls is much lower, and they don't know why yet). I was just stating a fact. But if you are the one in 66, it's like the machine gun bullet found you out of the 66 people heading over the wall. Why me? What if i'd gone over the wall a little slower?... what if i'd dodged left?... what if i hadn't eaten those beets the night before...
Just saying you grab at straws... BUT, you also head for facts, which is why we have him on the gluten free diet. He used to regurgitate his food until he smelled like bile all the time, his clothes, his hair, his breath, HIM! His behaviours were also wild and his pain threshold was extremely high: he'd hurt himself and we wouldn't know until we saw the bruise or cut (gluten acts like an opioid in his gut is the way it was explained to us). We grabbed at the straw that was the gluten free diet and it worked. Grabbing at that straw that is the vaccine long past is something you just do. You kick yourself and wonder.
Sometimes straws are all you have. That and booze.
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You should look up 'X chromosome Mosaicism'. In female mammals, each cell deactivates one of the two X chromosomes. It basically happens randomly, so *any* female mammal is a mix of cells with about half having an active *maternal* X chromosome, and the others having an active paternal X chromosome.
Identical twins will have different patterns of X chromosome activation. This can be a completely visible difference, such as in tortiseshell or calico cats
So, if any of the AD genes are on the X chromosome, they can be expressed *very* differently in otherwise identical twins.
http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/genetics/medgen/chromo/mosaics.html
That's just the one mechanism I know of off the top of my head that can cause differences in twins, no doubt there are others. Once you get into environmental causes, I'm sure that does nothing but expand the possibilities.
You're not going to make a billion dollars, slow the fuck down.
Says who? Who are you again?
Also, genius, it's a spectrum disorder. Ranging from people who might have it, or are just using it as an excuse to be a dick, like you, to people who can not funtion.
.....and your point is?
You falsely link intelligent with autism.
Intelligence*
You have no clue what reasoning I've taken to come to my conclusion, because I haven't explained it to you ..... nor do I feel any obligation to.
Not nearly as smart as you think you are, but that's the case now, so no change.
You just love saying that, don't you? I wonder why you feel so driven to insult me?
IF someone made it so you were comfortable around people, you would still be just as smart as you atr.
are*
What makes you ASSume "being uncomfortable around people" is my definition of "autistic"? That's a simplistic definition invented by a simpleton.
Parents of Kids that rock back in forth all day, drool on themselves and can't communicate would probably love to cure the disorder.
Sure. And I bet parents of kids who "don't listen", who forget things they're told verbally, who have strange habits like skipping up and down the house excitedly and flapping their hands, who are willful and impulsive, etc, would love to cure their kids of this "disorder" as well.
Which is why I'm well and fucking glad mine weren't able to.
Autistic people love rules, love routine, and teaching them proper responses to common questions, proper behaviour to common incidents, will certainly make them much happier in life.
I agree. The problem that I've found as an Aspie, however, is that a lot of neurotypical people don't know how to express these rules, and especially the principles underlying them, in a language that I understand.
If they dont know how to respond to something, they'll try and remember taught rules, then try to remember past experiences
And without taught rules, sometimes they'll overgeneralize from past experiences, or they'll undergeneralize and end up in trouble again.
maybe something they've seen in a movie
Hence the CSI Effect and other unsafe cases of confusion that results from misapplying storytelling tropes to real life.
More like forget about it in two minutes and never think of it or you again.
I can't trust a bible that's under copyright protection.
Three works of authorship are subject to perpetual copyright-like rights in Great Britain and Northern Ireland. One of the three is the King James Version of the Bible.
No man should have a monopoly on God's word.
Which is why the Watch Tower Society puts its literal New World Translation online and distributes printed copies at no charge.
Wakefield never wanted people to not get vaccinated (he just wanted people to buy his company's vaccines, he tried to scare people off of the competitor's one). It is people like McCarthy who actually advocated not getting vaccinated, so please put the blame squarely where it belongs. Wakefield was a greedy moron but the blood isn't on his hands.
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It's not your fault.
Really.
Dude, in all seriousness, get some counselling.
It can really help.
You need it.
I've spoken to quite a few of [Jehovah's Witnesses] and every single one seemed crazy.
In the first century, Jesus seemed crazy.
Plus, I don't like door to door salesmen.
JWs base their "house to house" ministry on Acts 5:42, if I remember correctly. JWs aren't obligated to preach that way, as I understand it; it's just one thing they can do in addition to sharing the gospel with friends and family.
[A list of verses omitted from most modern translations of the Greek Scriptures] makes me like the KJV that much more.
The Greek Scriptures in the Luther Bible, KJV, and NKJV are based on TR, as opposed to the NU (Nestle-Aland and United Bible Societies) text based on the oldest manuscripts, which underlies NIV, NWT, and most other twentieth-century translations. TR-type texts include back-translations from Latin into Greek of some verses that do not appear in the original manuscripts of the New Testament. NKJV is based on TR, but editions of NKJV published by Thomas Nelson include footnotes as to which verses are omitted in NU, for the benefit of those who believe that these extra verses are not inspired and did not exist in the first century.
It is focused on vaccines because there is an amazing correlation between the MMR vaccine and Autism onset. The correlation is strong enough that there have been multiple studies to see if there was also causation. There is not.
The brain goes through some crazy changes at 18 to 30 months, the MMR vaccine is targeted for 24 months. Since in many cases Autism onset appears to be rapid, and there is a high probability of recently (within 6 months) of having gotten shots, naturally people seize on that. I even grappled with that, the scientific part of me said it was not the cause, but the parental protection part of me, yeah, that crossed my mind. I'd be lying if I said otherwise.
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Seconded tolkein fan. :)
I've had a shrink for a while. It does help, and there is no shame in it. (Not to say I don't enjoy a drink now and then).
Don't let this become your demon.
And, you can always contact me for some moral support
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Ha, can't afford a shrink... if i could, i'd have a real shiny computer setup, dual screen, ba-boom!
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And you really should take a dump before sleep. The rest, i like! I like! loool!
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Most basic health care plans will provide one for free, they will be a LCSW (Licensed Clinical Social Worker), not a psychiatrist; kind of like seeing a Nurse Practitioner rather than an MD. If you don't have health care, there are still support services out there. It really will help, I promise. Having someone to talk to other than us anon dicks here on /. really works well. They can help you place stuff in perspective and place your priorities where they need to be (as opposed to where you honestly think they should be). They will help you with tools to work with your son, how to step back when the frustration gets to be too much, but in a way that does not make him worse.
Know that you are not alone in this. There are plenty of us here with autism, or like me and you, parents of autistic children. Find a local support group, talk to people. We recently lost my wife's grandmother, who lived with us for several years, that was particularly hard for my son, and by extension for us. If it weren't for the support out there I don't know how I would have dealt with it.
Come to think of it, talk to your child's care provider... they may be able to hook you up with someone.
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