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Venus To Transit the Sun In June, Not Again Until 2117

revealingheart writes with this quote from ScienceDaily: "On 5 and 6 June this year, millions of people around the world will be able to see Venus pass across the face of the Sun in what will be a once-in-a-lifetime experience. It will take Venus about six hours to complete its transit, appearing as a small black dot on the Sun's surface, in an event that will not happen again until 2117. ...Transits of Venus occur only on the very rare occasions when Venus and Earth are in a line with the Sun. At other times Venus passes below or above the Sun because the two orbits are at a slight angle to each other. Transits occur in pairs separated by eight years, with the gap between pairs of transits alternating between 105.5 and 121.5 years — the last transit was in 2004." You can check this chart to see whether it'll be visible at your location, and when you should look. You'll need a safe way to watch unless you are Vulcan. And yes, there's even a phone app to help you out.

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  1. Is it just me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or is there one of these once in a lifetime events about once a year?

    1. Re:Is it just me... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, you're just really old.

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    2. Re:Is it just me... by Relic+of+the+Future · · Score: 4, Informative
      No, but that one "Mars at closest approach!" email has been chaining around for a decade. (So remember people, make it clear that it's June 5th 2012 when you tell your Fwd: happy relatives and friends.)

      But seriously, the transit of Venus IS a big deal. The first post-enlightenment ToV was how we were able to determine the size of an AU, making it the first step in the chain to understanding the size of everything else in the universe beyond the Earth.

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    3. Re:Is it just me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Better yet, this exact once in a lifetime event happened a scant 8 years ago... So those of you over the age of 8 might be witnessing a twice in a lifetime event.

    4. Re:Is it just me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      But probably only be lucid to one of them

    5. Re:Is it just me... by Progman3K · · Score: 2

      Slashdot really is THE place where even the trolls post and debate existential issues logically.

      I guess that's the reason I still read here. Nothing else comes close.

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    6. Re:Is it just me... by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      RTFA.

      Johannes Kepler successfully predicted that both planets would transit the Sun in 1631, part of which was verified with Mercury's transit of that year. But the first transit of Venus to actually be viewed was in 1639 -- an event that had been predicted by the English astronomer Jeremiah Horrocks. He observed the transit in the village of Much Hoole in Lancashire -- the only other person to see it being his correspondent, William Crabtree, in Manchester.

      Later, in 1716, Edmond Halley proposed using a transit of Venus to predict the precise distance between Earth and the Sun, known as the astronomical unit. As a result, hundreds of expeditions were sent all over the world to observe the 1761 and 1769 transits. A young James Cook took the Endeavour to the island of Tahiti, where he successfully observed the transit at a site that is still called Point Venus.

  2. More than once by SmlFreshwaterBuffalo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...in what will be a once-in-a-lifetime experience

    Transits occur in pairs...the last transit was in 2004.

    So, what you're saying is it could be a twice-in-a-lifetime experience for some?

    1. Re:More than once by rrohbeck · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well it's 2012. Maybe the Mayans were about a half year off.

    2. Re:More than once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let me make sure I've got this right. You spend time and money on observing Venus transit the sun and expected more than 'Just small circle passing by on sun's surface.' What exactly did you think was going to happen? Really I must know what you thought it was going to look like it.

    3. Re:More than once by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 3, Informative

      What money?

      WW1 aces would look into the sun with no eye protection whatsoever, because the best place to attack from was with the sun at your back.

      You cannot go blind looking at the sun.

      Yes, staring for several minutes can cause some damage, even sometimes permanent damage. But a few seconds at a time? Doesn't happen. And it's much less likely to happen if you're nearsighted to begin with and don't correct your vision (don't wear glasses or contacts) - the light simply will not focus.

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    4. Re:More than once by oxapentane · · Score: 2

      It's quite hard to explain. e.g. Why dozens of people go to look on mona lisa? Just to see this really small piece of art under bulletproof glass which reflects every light in the room? Oh. Never mind. When I start to think about moments like this I usually find out that i should be in mental care hospital. ;) And my comment is just advie to everyone that they should think twice before they go to see this transit.

    5. Re:More than once by Bowling+Moses · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've already got binoculars and a sheet of paper's pretty cheap. To me this looks like a good excuse to buy a welder's hood with #14 glass (as per the link in TFA). Once I've got the hood, that's an excuse to buy the torch...and presto! A new hobby is born!

      OK, a welder's hood can be pricey. But you can buy the glass for less than $10.

    6. Re:More than once by PPH · · Score: 2

      At noon, Venus' shadow will fall on the Temple of Souls. You'll have to sneak by the Nazis (Godwin allowing), climb down and sneak off with the Arc of the Covenant. Don't look in it or you'll go blind.

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    7. Re:More than once by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 2

      Pilots like to attack with the sun behind them; that means that if you are expecting attack, you need to be looking at the sun because that's where the attack is likely to come from.

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    8. Re:More than once by The+Snowman · · Score: 2

      You cannot go blind looking at the sun.

      Not entirely true, and taken partially out of context.

      Yes, the sun will hurt and be uncomfortable but not likely induce blindness. However, I have seen a telescope aimed at the sun during broad daylight focus the energy and ignite a piece of paper placed a few inches from the eyepiece. I do not possess a medical degree, but I will go out on a limb and say that it can cause blindness.

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    9. Re:More than once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      What about if you look at the sun while masturbating?

    10. Re:More than once by BobNET · · Score: 2

      Is that you, Guillaume?

    11. Re:More than once by janeil · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, opinions differ. I watched that last transit on a cheapo telescope with a sun filter and would rank it very high as an astronomical experience. The perfect circle of venus moving across the sun, the speed of movement, just knowing what you were looking at was happening RIGHT NOW, blew me away. But I paid nothing, it was visible where I live. I wouldn't travel halfway across the world for a total eclipse, probably wouldn't do so to see another transit of venus, either. So, it's pretty cool, if you can watch it from your backyard.

    12. Re:More than once by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 2

      Well it is quite interesting to think of the fact that you can see another planet passing before the sun, if you've got any kind of child-like wonderment about the universe still left in you. I agree with you on the Mona Lisa though.

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  3. Also... by Laserfuzz · · Score: 2

    a good time to go out and support your local planetarium, science museum and/or local astronomy groups. (Yes, I work at a planetarium)

    1. Re:Also... by AvitarX · · Score: 2

      Yes, it will benefit communities that don't put ass hats like that into power. Natural selection can occur at that level as we are social creatures (thus models show "publishers" being beneficial to a system while detrimental to themselves surviving at a certain rate, benefiting the community. It makes sense for a community to tolerate the punishers, but a community of publishers collapses. The selective process trends toward the correct balance. too many complete morons in charge of raising your young will have a negative influence for that communities success, communities that let it happen will shrink.

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    2. Re:Also... by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

      Problem is, if you guys can see each other you're WAY out of reach for a handshake.

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  4. Re:“This video is not available in your coun by oneiros27 · · Score: 2

    The two within the 'pairs' are 8 years apart, but the full pattern is:

    8 - 105.5 - 8 - 121.5 - (repeat)

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  5. Probably THE best way to "watch"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Sun Today - Atmospheric Imaging Assembly

    Most likely the best view: 4500k - Visible Light

    Images are updated every 30 minutes.

  6. Good view from home! by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I live in southwestern British Columbia, Canada, and not only will we have a good view (egress is just after sunset), the weather prospects are decent. My mylar filter is ready to go on my Takahashi, so is my Coronado PST, bought on the way to the airport to observe the 2006 eclipse in Turkey.

    In 2004 I looked at creative places I might go to see the transit, and one candidate was Inuvik, thanks to the midnight sun. Until I looked at the weather prospects there, and concluded it wasn't going to happen. I got skunked by the 2010 eclipse from Mangaia in the Cook Islands, nice sunny weather the entire time, except at the time of the eclipse. Nice place, otherwise.

    ...laura

  7. It was a big deal to 18th century astronomers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Royal Society and its European counterparts dispatched astronomers to various places on Earth to observe the 1761 and 1769 transits. Two of them were Charles Mason and Jeremiah Dixon. Between transits Mason and Dixon spent almost five years surveying the boundary between Pennsylvania and Maryland. Only recently have I come to appreciate the magnitude of that accomplishment, thanks in part to the Mark Knopfler song.

  8. Viewing Earth on Venus... by fatp · · Score: 2

    During the transit, when looks at Earth from Venus, will the shadow of Venus look like a dot on Earth? What's this phenomenon called? (something eclipse??)

  9. Those wanting to photograph without damaging cam by tanveer1979 · · Score: 4, Informative

    400mm telephotos are best, but your camera will damage if you try to do direct photography.
    So go to ebay.com, and get a cheap 900nm+ IR filter. These filters are so dark, that even bright sun is a pale object through them.
    These cost 20$ for a 77mm filter.

    With filter on, point your cam at sun, shoot with 1/1000 or faster and then quickly point camera away.

    Remember, do not keep camera pointed at the sun continously.

    I did a solar eclipse with 300mm lens.
    Here are the pics
    http://tanveer.smugmug.com/Nature/Solar-Eclipse-July-22/8996323_xLmdqp#!i=598157547&k=7ZhhD.

    you can also stack two filters, but then you would need a shutter speed of 1/500 or slower.

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  10. Parent is right, you are wrong by Kupfernigk · · Score: 2
    The event (visible transit of Venus) is happening at his location. Except within a cylinder the diameter of the Sun and projected from it in the direction of Venus, nothing of interest is occurring at all.

    Looked at from an overall point of view, this cylinder exists all the time since the Venus-Sun axis is always there, and is only of interest when the Earth intersects it and we see a transit. So, from a time point of view, the event is happening at the Earth, neither Venus nor the Sun.

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  11. Re:June 4th alignment by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Whatever influence those bodies should have on us cannot be explained with physics, aside of the moon's influence, which is very real and observable. Its influence is due to gravity, which is explained both by its relatively large size (seriously, we have the biggest moon in the solar system compared to the mass of the main body, at least since Pluto/Charon have been demoted) and its closeness. It's actually big enough to make the center of gravity of the Earth-moon system considerably outside the center of Earth. That something like this can and actually does have an influence on tides and weather is a given and easily observed.

    The rest, well, the rest of the planets are simply too friggin' far away to have any measurable gravitational impact on our planet or anything on it. Even Jupiter, the largest body in our solar system aside of the sun, is insignificant in both its size and hence gravity compared to our main solar body. Its main influence, if you will, is that it acts as a huge vacuum cleaner that keeps debris from the Oort cloud away from us should that crap decide to fall towards the sun.

    I'd like to be open to any kind of input you might have, and without reasonable doubt I don't want to refute your claim that the other celestial bodies have some kind of influence on us, but I have a hard time seeing just what influence they supposedly have. Aside of the sun, none emit light. Aside of the moon, none are able to block out the sunlight, and even the moon can only do so for a few minutes in decades or centuries. Aside of moon and sun, none have gravitational influence.

    So whatever influence these planets should have has to be in some other way. But what way?

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  12. Re:Actually, ... by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

    Good idea. I mean, as a geek, dates are probably rarer than Venus transits.

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