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Google Apps Beats Office 365 For US Dept. of the Interior Contract

angry tapir writes "The U.S. Department of the Interior has picked Google Apps to provide cloud-based email and collaboration applications to about 90,000 staffers, choosing Google's services over Microsoft's Office 365. Google had sued the U.S. agency in 2010, claiming its requirements for the contract tilted the scales unfairly toward Microsoft. Google eventually dropped its lawsuit last September."

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  1. ooh by mug+funky · · Score: 4, Funny

    i can't wait to see what the MS shills have to say about this :)

    1. Re:ooh by symbolset · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I've been here about a decade. I've seen lots of spammers come and go. I've come to accept Goatse Guy and the Nigger Troll as part of what it costs to give and get my bit in an Internet forum. And that's OK. I browse at -1 to get both the grit and the gloss.

      There are now some folk well paid to get top post, and comment on that post until the comments scroll down ad-infinitum of course. Maybe their managers think they're acheiving something on /., and if they're paying for that play I'm fine with that. Those guys gotta eat. One day we'll miss the "frosty piss" first post.

      Before these folks were incompetent, and coudn't even string together a sentence in common Englush. They have evolved. Now they have skills and are getting better at it. But they miss that certain something - that "I don't know what" that moves them from marketing to legit. That's fine for me, because I always look closely at the new thing, but these new folk look to do an end-around flanking maneuver.

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    2. Re:ooh by bmo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Literally EVERY MS story posted here for the last 15 years has been full of people bitching about MS. And yet if ONE person posts a pro-MS message then "OMG YOU'RE A SHILL SLASHDOT IS FULL OF SHILLS!"

      It's not just about making positive posts about Microsoft that bring out the "shill" cries.

      It's the:

      1. New user with 10 posts
      2. Vacuous pro-msft post - just content-free
      3. Cheerleading
      4. Rushed to the top of the page.

      Having all these qualities in one posts guarantees that it's just a shill post. I caught one last week that was a first post.

      Then there's the post that shows up in the top that is an obvious canned response that is so detailed and over-edited ahead of time, that it could not possibly be typed in by hand in the 30 seconds to beat the second post. Recoiledsnake was infamous for doing this, especially if it involved Metro. He hasn't done it since he was called out on this.

      The theme that bonds these two types of posts together is their utter impersonality. They contain nothing of their authors' personalities. They are fake, the signature of the astroturf post.

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  2. I'm pretty sure /. just ate my post on this one... by idbeholda · · Score: 5, Informative

    This shouldn't come as any surprise, since Google didn't have an outage due to a "leap year glitch". Any wonder why they skipped over Office?

  3. Libre Office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What is the matter with these people? Anybody can load Libre Office, for free and legally, then use the thing for the rest of their lives without paying a cent. It is good old traditional office software, easily used by anybody familiar with any other office suite. No internet connection is necessary for normal use. There are no glaring security holes. How can these dopey bureaucrats pass up a deal like that?

  4. Re:I'm pretty sure /. just ate my post on this one by gstrickler · · Score: 4, Informative

    And it's not even the first time MS has made that mistake. They did in with the Zune in 2008, then made the same mistake with Azure.

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  5. Re:How about 'disappearing features'? by cheater512 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Err this is for web based stuff so no even with Microsoft they can update at a whim.

    Not sure what your yammering about TOC's is about. The feature is still right there: http://support.google.com/docs/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=106342

  6. To a bureaucrat by Kupfernigk · · Score: 4, Informative
    Software is worth what it costs. Otherwise, Government procurement policies would be called into doubt.

    You are right: there are no essential features lacked by Open or Libre Office. By essential, I mean stuff needed to present information. Therefore, Government departments could easily mandate that only that feature set is used. But the Microsoft argument is that if "free" means it only does 99% of what expensive does, free is worthless (even if the 1% is unnecessary.)

    Take presentations. Almost all presentations would be precisely as meaningful if the slides were done in Wordpad with additional images. But, like medieval scribes, Microsoft has persuaded people that unless every page is an illuminated manuscript, the content is worthless. The arms race in manuscript production continued right up until Gutenberg, when people suddenly realised that movable type was easier to read. I await the day when some unknown 5-star general suddenly realises that Powerpoint is a waste of resources, though I doubt it will happen in my lifetime.

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    1. Re:To a bureaucrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I await the day when some unknown 5-star general suddenly realises that Powerpoint is a waste of resources, though I doubt it will happen in my lifetime

      The military calls it "death by powerpoint". Gen. James N. Mattis & Brig. Gen. H. R. McMaster are such commanders that have banned or severely restricted use of powerpoint under their command.
      They found that their staff was spending more time preparing fancy slides than actually analyzing information or planning missions/operations. So they scrapped it.

    2. Re:To a bureaucrat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      15 years ago, I worked for Lockheed Martin. Our customer, the US Navy, told us they didn't like Powerpoint presentations, as their information density is so extremely low. That wasn't a general though, so I guess it doesn't count.

      Yes, the low information density of Powerpoint presentations is by design, and is allegedly a good thing. Me, I've always thought they were for stupid people. If you can't read high density information, you shouldn't be promoted to make important decisions.

    3. Re:To a bureaucrat by ameen.ross · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That also works the other way around. What if LibreOffice saves one an average of 5 minutes instead?

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  7. DOI's original RFQ was biased towards M$ by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    DOI's original RFQ specified that only Microsoft solutions would be considered

    Only after Google sued them (and then dropped the lawsuit) that DOI agreed to drop the "M$ only" clause

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  8. Re:I'm pretty sure /. just ate my post on this one by Intropy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Geez. You'd think that one guy at Microsoft who writes all the software would have remembered last time he made that error and not duplicated it.

  9. Tables turn by Spiked_Three · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For the record, I have participated on the MS team that bids government contracts. Not recently but many many years ago, when the climate was reversed.

    MS: "We would like to bid on this project" govt: "No you cant, it must be SUN" or "no you must be ???" I can't even remember what the it was called, that is how truly relative it was, not relative then, forgotten about now. oh yeah, POSIX. Anyone even remember it?

    So anyhow, despite objections for years MS became the standard anyway for quite a while.

    If you can blame it on sleazy marketing then, why can't you blame the present shift on the same thing? The fact is he who does the best/most lobbying wins.

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    1. Re:Tables turn by wireloose · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As a government employee who had to plan and deal with sharing of information across thousands of systems, I often sat across the table from Microsofties who claimed that their software met our compatibility needs even though it didn't have even a basic IP stack at the time. We supported military engineers worldwide who had Sun, Apollo, Masscomp, Pyramid, and dozens of systems running a number of operating systems. Yet, they all had one thing in common - they were all POSIX compliant, and there were common tools and interfaces across all of them. Even when Windows finally got a native (sorta) IP stack, it still never got POSIX compliance. POSIX is a set of IEEE standards initiated in the 1980s, and was adopted into the NIST FIPS standards. The POSIX standards continued to develop until just 4 years ago. Most of the popular operating systems today are POSIX compliant, even certified. I wouldn't expect you to know that, though, being a MSoftie. Of all *mainstream* operating systems in use today, only Windows (in all versions) remains out of compliance. Microsoft has always fought against compatibility and portability rather than work with everyone else. The MSofties I knew were always trying to get us to drop all standards and just buy their stuff, with no care about how we could get it to work with what we already had.