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Symantec: Religious Sites "Riskier Than Porn For Viruses"

First time accepted submitter kongshem writes "According to Symantec's annual Internet Security Threat Report, religious and ideological websites have far more security threats per infected site than adult/pornographic sites. Why is that? Symantec's theory: 'We hypothesize that this is because pornographic Web site owners already make money from the Internet and, as a result, have a vested interested in keeping their sites malware-free — it's not good for repeat business,'"

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  1. JEBUS will protect me! by RandomAdam · · Score: 5, Funny

    But jebus will protect me so I don't need your silly anti-virus

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    @Random_Adam

    Sometimes a sig doesn't have to be funny!!
    1. Re:JEBUS will protect me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There have been many empires in world history that invested in religion.

      Those investments are now nice tourist sites.

      Go Jebus!

    2. Re:JEBUS will protect me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      > But jebus will protect me so I don't need your silly anti-virus
      Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"

    3. Re:JEBUS will protect me! by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The sad part is you aren't far from reality, but the reality is "I have jebus so I don't need to understand anything like technology" which as someone who has worked with religious charities I can tell you that most of the people there have less understanding of even basic tech than your average 6th grader. I hate to say it but that whole thing about religious being "sheep"? kinda accurate. I mean shit I hadn't had to deal with in years, basic info like "Hey don't go around opening attachments from people you don't know" or "Don't just download any old program from some bunch you've never heard of and run it". That is why I don't do those types of charities anymore, instead giving older units to poor families because at least I don't have to treat them like someone who has never seen a PC and can simply give them a few basic rules and not have to worry about the machine getting trashed.

      I wouldn't be a bit surprised if those websites were cooked up by somebody's cousin in Dreamweaver just as a favor and handed over to some deacon who knows absolutely nothing about websites other than how to change the content. For some reason religious types and tech? Do NOT go together.

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    4. Re:JEBUS will protect me! by lorenlal · · Score: 5, Funny

      Our designer, who art in Portland,
      Hallowed be thy kernel
      Thy system build,
      Thy will be built,
      On ours, as it is on yours,
      Give us this day our daily patch,
      And forgive us our errors,
      As we forgive them that introduce theirs,
      And lead us not into closed software,
      But deliver us from non-freedom,
      For thine is the kernel, the sources, the glory,
      For ever and ever,
      Amen.

  2. More details? by Inquisitus · · Score: 5, Interesting
    TFA is incredibly light on details. Where's the link to the report itself? How is a threat defined? And is than statistic of three times the number of threats normalized over all sites in each category (as TFA suggests), or just the infected ones (as the summary suggests)?

    It is interesting to note that websites hosting adult/pornographic content are not in the top five, but ranked tenth

    So how are they categorizing pornographic websites? What are the other 9 categories that are more "dangerous"?

  3. Original report by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Informative
    The original report is here. The relevant paragraph says:

    It is interesting to note that Web sites hosting adult/pornographic content are not in the top five, but ranked tenth. The full list can be seen in figure 16. Moreover, religious and ideological sites were found to have triple the average number of threats per infected site than adult/pornographic sites. We hypothesize that this is because pornographic website owners already make money from the internet and, as a result, have a vested interest in keeping their sites malware-free – it’s not good for repeat business.

    Figure 16, interestingly, does not show religious and ideological sites, I assume it is grouped with "Education/Reference". The full top 10 is

    1. Blogs/Web Communications
    2. Hosting/Personal hosted sites
    3. Business/ Economy
    4. Shopping
    5. Education/ Reference
    6. Technology Computer & Internet
    7. Entertainment & Music
    8. Automotive
    9. Health & Medicine
    10. Pornography
  4. Re:Same for sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Children are sexually transmitted so there's a flaw in your logic there.

  5. Re:Dawkins/GODSPOT-0DAY by eddy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't agree. Agnosticism is just weak atheism, and only relevant if you ascribe special importance to some religions and their gods. Otherwise, what's the point of being agnostic about EVERYTHING you can't know whether it exists or not? It's nonsense. "Oh, I'm an agnostic about the invisible pink unicorn (blessed be her holy hooves), and about Kropal the mighty God of Making Holes in Socks, and about Thor and about Klaatu and about Mohammed and about Jesus and about Cats being the avatars of our master race and about ...".

    Anyone who can seriously invent a god and then say that the only scientific viewpoint is to be agnostic about it (because you know, who knows, right?), is just hiding behind their mother's skirts.

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    Belief is the currency of delusion.
  6. Re:Dawkins/GODSPOT-0DAY by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is not even that. Atheism and Agnosticism exist on orthogonal axes. Theism and Atheism make ontological statements about the existence resp. nonexistence of deities. Agnosticism, on the other hand, makes an epistemological statement about the possibility to know about said existence. It is perfectly possible to be an agnostic theist as well as an agnostic atheist.

    As for the scientific validity - in absence of evidence, the default assumption is non-existence. It is simple as that. Do we need that debate every single fucking time the weekly religion vs. atheism thread pops up?

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    Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
  7. Actual Symantec report: nothing like reporting by fsgtae · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Symantec report, the Internet Security Threat Report, 2011 Trends, did not say what the article in the OP claims.

    The actual report is here: http://www.symantec.com/content/en/us/enterprise/other_resources/b-istr_main_report_2011_21239364.en-us.pdf . Page 33 of the report, the only discussion of religion, states

    "religious and ideological sites were found to have triple the average number of threats per infected site than
    adult/pornographic sites."

    Three points:

    1. The report lumps religious and ideological sites together. Maybe the infected sites were ideological (non-religious) sites. You cannot conclude anything about religious sites at all from that statistic.

    2. The report implies nothing about the safety of religious/ideological sites. It just says that if a religious/ideological site is infected, then it has more threats on average than an infected adult site. If the percentage of religious/ideological sites that are infected is lower than the percentage of adult sites that are infected, then religious/ideological sites could be much safer on average. Indeed, figure 16 on page 36 of the report doesn't list religous/ideological sites as dangerous. The point is that the safety of religious/ideological sites as a whole must account for uninfected sites. The "number of threats per infected site" is just about irrelevant.

    3. If there is any limit to the gullibility or statistical illiteracy of internet users, I have yet to perceive it.