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Unblocking The Pirate Bay the Hard Way Is Fun

TheGift73 writes in with a link for those of you who like to do things the hard way. "Now that The Pirate Bay is being blocked by ISPs in the UK, millions of people have a new interest in accessing the site, even if they didn't before. The reasons for this are simple. Not only do people hate being told what they can and can't do, people – especially geeks – love solving problems and puzzles. Unlocking The Pirate Bay with a straightforward proxy is just too boring, so just for fun let's go the hard way round."

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  1. How about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    http://3259460367

    Who needs to unblock anything...

    1. Re:How about by teh31337one · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sorry, the web page you have requested is not available through Virgin Media.

      Virgin Media has received an order from the Courts requiring us to prevent access to this site in order to help protect against copyright infringement.

      If you are a Virgin Media home broadband customer, for more information on why certain web pages are blocked, please click here.

      If you are a Virgin Media Business customer, or are trying to view this page through your company's internet connection, please click here.

    2. Re:How about by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Indeed, proxies and workarounds are treating the symptom not the cause. These challenges to our web freedoms need to be tackled at the source, politicians made aware that its a substantial vote-garnering issue, and the system itself made to do its job and serve the people not corporations.

    3. Re:How about by Stalks · · Score: 4, Informative
      This doesn't work because the web server is redirecting the browser to the standard address.

      > wget http://3259460367/
      --2012-05-07 09:33:48-- http://3259460367/
      Resolving 3259460367... 194.71.107.15
      Connecting to 3259460367|194.71.107.15|:80... connected.
      HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
      Location: http://thepiratebay.se/ [following]
      --2012-05-07 09:33:48-- http://thepiratebay.se/

  2. *facepalm* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Using a proxy is too easy... using google search as a proxy is u83r 1337 and sooooooooo different.

    1. Re:*facepalm* by multicoregeneral · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's kind of silly. I don't see how any of these (we've been using them for years at work) techniques are any more technical than a proxy, other than they kind of suck. You'll end up with broken links, images you can't see, and what not. With a proxy, you'll sometimes have speed issues, but the pages are usually complete. Something else you can do if you're not searching for new releases is go to archive.org. I think you would be shocked to find how complete their copies of pirate bay have been over the years.

      I wonder, with over two centuries of completely retarded laws in England, does anyone actually take anything the government puts out seriously? The pirate bay blocking isn't the only dumb thing they've done lately. There's also the indecipherable cookie legislation that goes into effect this month that makes website operators responsible for asking permission for all cookies. Dumbasses.

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  3. For those that do want the easy way... by lattyware · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Pirate Party UK is hosting a mirror (or acting as a proxy, not sure which): http://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk/

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  4. What a joke by slimjim8094 · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I read "the hard way", I expected something at least as sophisticated as Tor, but this is just stupid. Their suggestion is to use Google cache and copy the magnet link.

    Please.

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    1. Re:What a joke by Baloroth · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm pretty sure that is the hard way, compared to Tor.

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    2. Re:What a joke by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

      use Google cache and copy the magnet link.

      That's not making a direct connection, that's just using cached data. The entire point of defeating censorship in this fashion is to prove that as long as a connection can be made between A and B, and a connection can be made between B and C, then even if a connection cannot be made between A and C, it can still be routed through B. That's how the internet was designed to operate.

      Unfortunately, as more and more money is waved around with the demand that it not work this way, increasingly sophisticated technological solutions will have to be employed to maintain these links. At some point, thanks legislators being sock puppets for those wealthy interests, the only way to ensure democracy electronically will be to deploy tools that allow people doing things far, far, worse than downloading music to have effective anonymity and realtime communication.

      These commercial interests will be responsible for the widespread deployment of encryption, steganography, and analysis-resistant forms of communication that will allow terrorist, child abusers, and all manner of truly bad people to disappear into the shadows. The internet as it is designed now can effectively screen for those types of problems, because bypassing surveillance results in network traffic that is statistically different. Efforts by Homeland Security and other similar organizations worldwide can thus be seen as promoting terrorism, organized crime, and child abuse -- the very reasons they offer up for control of the internet. If they'd just limited themselves to those factors, we would have effective controls that caught just them... but when you're using such technology to catch hundreds of millions of people, and restrict their daily activities... some of them will design effective safeguards against such measures and deploy them via word of mouth.

      It's like the war on drugs: If they'd just kept it to truly harmful drugs like cocaine and heroin, those drugs wouldn't be easily accessible... but because they went after anyone who recreationally takes drugs, they made everyone their enemy... and no matter how wealthy or powerful your organization, you can't beat 100,000:1 odds.

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    3. Re:What a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hey now, heroin and cocaine are not dangerous. I take great offense to your post. Alcohol is far more dangerous than both heroin and cocaine combined, and there are so many deaths caused by alcohol it's not even funny.

      Heroin is actually a particularly weak opiate when you compare it to some of the other legal opiods that people are taking/abusing. Hell, even my prescription of Oxymorphone is 10x stronger than morphine and 4x stronger than heroin, yet it is perfectly legal to obtain by going to the doctor. Heroin gets a bad rap because it's cheap and that makes it a good choice for junkies. Opiates are actually pretty safe drugs to use. The only long term side effect is addiction, and there are no side effects that are detrimental to your health. It's just dumb kids and junkies that run out of their drug of choice, withdrawal for a few days, have their tolerance drop tenfold, and then inject their old dose that OD. Yes, the addiction part is bad and yes, they are extremely addictive, but after a week of not using them you return to your normal self. They are not "harmful" like you've been brainwashed to think.

      Cocaine is a pretty unique drug, but it's relatively safe as well. It's not an amphetamine, but it feels pretty similar. Kids are prescribed amphetamines like Adderall all the time. My GF has a prescription for it, and it is fun to take once in a while, but you would really need to take an absurd dosage to make it dangerous. Yet, millions of people are legally taking prescription meds that act very similarly to cocaine, and no one even cares.

      So, we have the general population like you who are brainwashed into thinking drugs are bad because the media/government told you so. It's sad that we legally prescribe essentially the same thing that you consider a "harmful drug" to people all the time and it's ok, yet when someone mentions heroin or cocaine, everyone acts like someone who uses those is some scumbag criminal. People are going to use drugs whether they be legal or illegal. People are going to share files on the internet, whether they make it illegal or not. It's the same principle at work. And you are applying the same brainwashed logic to drugs that the policy makers are applying to filesharing, and it sickens me.

    4. Re:What a joke by cranky_chemist · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Do you know what the difference is between LSD and Strychnine? Nothing; They're chemically identical, save that one is left-handed and the other right-handed."

      Uh... no.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_diethylamide

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strychnine

      Not only are those two compounds NOT enantiomers, they don't even have the same chemical formula (C20H25N3O vs. C21H22N2O2).
       

    5. Re:What a joke by dryeo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A third of the population abuses alcohol, and most everyone has used it. If heroin and cocaine enjoyed the same level of use... let's just say population control wouldn't be an issue. The danger of a drug isn't based on how many people die from using it, but how many people per capita

      A hundred+ years ago Cocaine and Opiates (mostly morphine) were very popular, with quite likely 1/3rd of the population using one or the other. Coca wine was very popular amongst the upper class and morphine was used by many. You could go into any drug store and purchase them for cheap or if you were the Queen you used the expensive stuff. People did not die just like most people don't die of alcohol abuse but if you hang out in the right places it seems to be a killer. I've known a lot of people who have died from alcohol abuse and none who have died from any other drug.
      Most of the problems with both heroin and cocaine are caused by prohibition. Especially with heroin, you don't know what you're getting and if used to weak formulations a strong formulation can easily kill and cocaine has been concentrated to the point of being dangerous.
      Cocaine use amongst doctors used to be very common before the procurement procedures were tightened up and doctors would be prescribing morphine or heroin much more if not for the legal implications. Shit, my Aunt was given Heroin by a doctor in a hospital when she was in labour which would have been in the late '60's.
      It's the puritans that have pushed all the prohibition bs and have this attitude that if you need a crutch to get by then you're a failure. Personally I need a few crutches, the most addicting being my glasses.

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  5. *That's* considered the "hard way"?!? by gman003 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Having RTFAd, the "hard way" boils down to... use Google Translate to access it.

    How the hell does that qualify as "hard"? Or even, really, different from a proxy? I was using that exact* trick in fifth grade to get around stupid school filters (fun fact: blocking any page including the characters "xxx" makes it *really* hard to write a paper on Roman Numerals).

    I was expecting something at least involving Tor or the like, or maybe some weird hosts file trick. Something actually, y'know, interesting.

    * technically, it wasn't the "exact" same trick, as I was using Babelfish - I don't think Google Translate existed at the time - but it's close enough

    1. Re:*That's* considered the "hard way"?!? by Master+Moose · · Score: 5, Funny

      (fun fact: blocking any page including the characters "xxx" makes it *really* hard to write a paper on Roman Numerals)

      XXX is what I would rate this article on a scale of I to C

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  6. Only the larger ISPs are blocking it, it seems. by asdf7890 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Only the larger ISPs are blocking it, it seems.

    The ISP I currently use (AAISP) are certainly not blocking it (see http://revk.www.me.uk/2012/05/blocking-pirate-bay.html for a blog entry oin the subject from one of the ISP's senior people), and no doubt many of the smaller ISPs are not either.

    As (IIRC) TPB no longer runs a tracker at all and merely holds metafiles listing other trackers and/or distributed tracker links, this menas that all you need to get around the block is to use a friend's connection by proxy to get the .torrent file: once you have that you can dwonload an upload with merry abandon. This means that the block is pretty much pointless: if someone knew enough to know TPB exists and has the small amount of knowledge needed to get and use a bittorrent client, then they are going to know how (or have a contact who can help them) to access TBP by proxy in this way. Or, for that matter, just find another source for torrent metafiles and tracker facilities.

    Is TPB really that relevant any more anyway? I've not been to any such site in many a moon so I might be completely out of touch, but I was under the impression that people were moving more towards private trackers and even ignoring that there are many small public trackers and aggregators available as alternatives. If my understanding is right and TBP is just a name that everyone knows rather than a site many people use, then this has as little effect as taking down napster: by the time it was taken down most people had other sources lined up anyway.

    Off topic: while I'm linking to RevK, you might find his attitude and actions towards telemarketting amusing: http://revk.www.me.uk/2010/07/what-moron.html

    1. Re:Only the larger ISPs are blocking it, it seems. by Idetuxs · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I still use TPB, and I know there are more websites to search for torrents, but despite being the largest one, TPB it's a symbol of resistance.
      When and if it's taken down, it will be a major lost for Pirates. MHO.

    2. Re:Only the larger ISPs are blocking it, it seems. by Pentium100 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've not been to any such site in many a moon so I might be completely out of touch, but I was under the impression that people were moving more towards private trackers and even ignoring that there are many small public trackers and aggregators available as alternatives.

      I do not like private trackers because of their ratio enforcement. I have a good connection and I really seed torrents to a large ratio (usually 100 or more, sometimes only 2 or so if I did not like what I downloaded and want to delete it as soon as possible to make space), but since private trackers force everyone to have good ratio, everybody seeds and nobody downloads. Because of that, if I download a torrent, it s very likely that I won't be able to get good ratio because nobody will want to download from me. So, instead I have to download what is popular (instead of what I want) to build up the ratio and then later I can download what I want. So, I usually go to TPB or other public places first and use private trackers only if the public ones do not have that torrent.

    3. Re:Only the larger ISPs are blocking it, it seems. by Vegemeister · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So was Supernova. People moved on.

  7. You ever see... by Genda · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A guy driving without license or registration, they just look suspicious, driving too careful, looking around, freaking out when a police car appears. When will people get it (including governments) when you have nothing to hide, when you aren't provoking a stupid reaction from the universe at large things go well. Case in point, screwing with people's freedom of choice is just wrong. You erect a wall in the middle of a highway, and pretend business as usual. Sorry, it doesn't work that way/ First you draw incredible unwanted attention. Then you start pissing off the locals. Finally, you inspire them in huge numbers to profound acts of civil disobedience.

    Let's face it. There are two kinds of infringing acts perpetrated against media producers. 1. Illicit copy by the general public and 2. Illegal mass manufacture by bootleggers in developing countries. For the first shut up, leave them alone. Every single iota of evidence suggests the folks doing the heaviest bootlegging are your best customers and they're just sampling you're wares before going out and buying the friggin' 3D Blueray. They just want to know if this film or game or song is crap or worth adding to their huge collections. You want to sell more media, stop foisting heavily mass marketed feces on the public, and for the luv-o-jebus STOP KILLING THE GOLDEN GOOSE!!! as for number 2. Its the third world, how many copies of your movie, or song or game were you planning on selling in Mogadishu anyway? If your film is preventing kids from being on the street and ending up being co-opted into death squads, nominate yourself for a friggin Humanitarian award and figure out some way to monetize it. In either case, you haven't got a single logical leg to stand on, other than y'all are greedy control freaks who want to squeeze every last drop of blood from every human being with eyes and ears. Enough already. Call it a day. Your behavior has been reprehensible, your logic brain damaged, and you keep trying to force the earth to spin backwards. Figure out the world as it is, bring in people with functioning brains and hearts to create new business models and thrive like you never have before. Get a clue, hell get two, they're small.

    1. Re:You ever see... by Caesar+Tjalbo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm from The Netherlands. Copyright here is defined as the exclusive right of the creator of a work to publish and duplicate it. With that definition comes the rest of the copyright law and then there's additional laws, treaties and rulings but the basis is more or less the same everywhere.

      If you want to look at it in a reasonable way, as you seem to do, you might notice that things are a bit different compared to the analog world with regards to publishing and duplicating. Just a silly example: in order to merely see the copyright notice on a website, you already have made a copy of it.

      I think the, let's say, war on piracy is just a symptom of a larger fight. I think it's about keeping copyright and all that comes with it. The exclusivity, the rights, the financial systems.

      I think that copyright mechanisms as we know them are no longer sustainable. And I can't wait to see what happens if 3D printers become normal household items because publishing blue prints of patented items or Mickey Mouse figures is stealing or destroying the job creators.

      But before the world at large understands how disruptive digital technology has become, I expect a lot more attempts of the rights holders to cling to their precious 'intellectual property'. And that's in a deeper sense than just 'fighting piracy'.

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  8. Re:why not just modify your host table? by Tx · · Score: 4, Informative

    That doesn't work, they're obviously doing more than just DNS redirecting. Entering the IP address directly or via your hosts file still gets redirected to the block page. Good guess, and it would be nice if everything in life was the simplest possible case, but sadly it isn't.

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  9. Pfft. That's still the easy way. by VortexCortex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These folks claiming to be "unblocking The Pirate Bay the Hard Way" are still doing it the easy way. They want to do it the hard way? Rally a bunch of supporters and go to Parliament and MAKE them unblock it. Rouse friends and family in support of sharing of information (the BASIS OF HUMANITY) and don't let anyone forget who the bastards are that blocked it in the first place and why they should be voted out. Get some money together and run smear campaigns on the media networks if you dare.

    "Oh that's too hard", yes well, that's why it's called the HARD way.
    "Oh, I'll just use $NEXT_ON_THE_BLOCK_LIST tool or service to get around the censorship", not only are they not doing it The hard way, they're just plain doing it wrong.

  10. Re:why not just modify your host table? by Blue+Stone · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They use Cleanfeed, BT's transparent proxy.

    It was created to block child pornography. Now it's also used to protect outdated business models.

    When it was just blocking child porn, I dare say most people were OK with it. Now it's going to add 'copyright censorship'; soon, who knows what? Political sites, hate speech. And it'll gradually lose support and the means to circumvent its censorship will proliferate and become commonplace, making it entirely useless in doing the job it was designed for.

    They're idiots. But that's not news.

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  11. If you want to unblock it the hard way by 7-Vodka · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you want to unblock it the hard way.. Then you need to figure out how to take back control of your over-reaching 1984, police state government nightmare.

    The hard way is to get involved and make real change and gain your Freedom so that you will never have anything like this proposed again.

    Live Free or Die motherfuckers.

    By the way, if you need help seeing what this looks like:
    Ron Paul will show you the way.

    Peace, out. Bitches.

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    1. Re:If you want to unblock it the hard way by dkf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Live Free or Die motherfuckers.

      By the way, if you need help seeing what this looks like:
      Ron Paul will show you the way.

      The people who are really serious about "Live Free or Die" cover themselves in petrol and set fire to themselves to protest against injustice and oppression. Ron Paul? He's just another politician, full of words.

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  12. Re:why not just modify your host table? by kangsterizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or not. It will become *accepted*.
    When that mean won't be technologically sufficient, since the blocking will have been *accepted* (we blocked for 10 years already! etc.) they will change the mean to be stronger.

    They're actually smart. It wouldn't work any other way. Smart but disgusting.

  13. Re:why not just modify your host table? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One where you eliminate the middle man and sell directly from artists to customers, thus preventing the RIAA et al from stealing from its artists. It's inevitable really.

  14. Re:Pfft. That's still the easy way. by Stormthirst · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While I agree with the sentiments of your post, there is one major problem:

    One of the biggest rallies ever done in the UK (total I believe around 2 million people) walked through the streets of London. We still ended up fighting in the Iraq War.
    Tony Blair decided that as "only" 2 million rallied, and the other 58 million "stayed home" it was a democratic decision, and that the 58 million were giving him permission to go to war.

    Conclusion: Parliament doesn't give a shit about rallies.

  15. Re:why not just modify your host table? by Lussarn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd love to hear what business model can possibly compete with stealing.

    Broadband taxation? if you pay 50$ a month you can download whaterver you want, no strings attached. We pay for (although very cheap) anonymization services today to use the internet as we see fit, so there are actually people making money from copying. I would gladly pay tenfold to get out of the relative clusterfuck that is Piratebay today. Let's face it, PB is no Netflix in terms of usability. But the content industry isn't interested, they still want 25$ per movie using DRM which takes hours to circumvent if you need play them on anything not sanctioned by them, while PB is offering movies in formats people actually can play. The industry is protecting what your parent said an "outdated bussiness model". They need to change, their former and hopefully future customers already have.

  16. Re:why not just modify your host table? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is hardly Virgin's fault - they're following a court order.

    In fact, they've been kind enough to redirect you to a page clearly stating that they were ordered to block the site, so that everybody knows something is up. Almost as though they want people to make a fuss about it. The obvious (and probably cheaper) alternative would just be to reject all connections to the IP, so people would assume it was a problem with the site, not their broadband.

    Not affiliated with Virgin, and they're not even my ISP, but given the circumstances, I approve of the way they've handled it.